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05-19-2009
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RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!
The early Saturn screen shots thread is back!
I've come upon some very nice quality (for the time at least) images of early Saturn games.
Starting the new collection is the game that originally started this thread, Shin Shinobi Den. The following screen shots are nothing like the final game. None of these areas feature in the final game as well as all enemies in these shots.
More very early screen shots to follow very soon!
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05-19-2009
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What is this? *BRRZZ*.. Ouch!
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man, i'd love to play that beta, too!
thanks for the screenies!
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05-19-2009
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Nice on yakumo, these are great. Any idea what year these where from? Maybe something around 1994/95. Very interesting!
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05-19-2009
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These shots are from November 1994 !! Shin Shinobi Den wasn't released until 30th June 1995. So these shots are just over half old before the final game was released. Just wait until you see the Dayton shots I've got lined up!! On some parts of the track floor they're using the car's window's textures!
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05-19-2009
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I have tons of old sega mags i know ive seen some early saturn stuff in them i will go on a mag hunt see what i can find.
great pics too
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05-19-2009
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post that guys!
AWESOME is the word!
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05-19-2009
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Ouais, c'est pas faux!!!
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All these early shots, feel more like Shinobi compared to the final game, good game but still missing something... though much better than the PS2 crap we got a few years ago...
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05-20-2009
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not a great find i dont think this panzer pic is anything new i will search again later i know i can find one pic worth showing . but on the other hand i did find some md mcd and 32x stuff but im not sure if its new to the net i will post them on another thread if its worth it i dont want to mess yakumo post up with stuff everyone has seen before. below is the panzer dragoon pic and a list of what i found.
md
akira
kartoon kombat
ardvark
creative antics
prime
interplanetary lizards
steven seagal (dose not look the same as the snes proto)
mcd
the strangers
32x
team wipeout
the games above could be on other systems and they have just used a pic from them let me know what you think.
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05-20-2009
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The bottom picture of Panzer Dragoon is not in the final game. Looks to be some sort of test area. Just look at the floor. It's the same texture repeated over and over.
Yakumo
PS: Yeah, best not to post Mega Drive stuff and so on in this thread. I'd like to keep it saturn only.
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05-20-2009
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Originally Posted by Yakumo
The bottom picture of Panzer Dragoon is not in the final game. Looks to be some sort of test area. Just look at the floor. It's the same texture repeated over and over.
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Sure i will look for more tomorrow i have a few more of panzer and some of clockwork knight but im not sure if their early shots i have many more mags to check out.thanks for the shinobi pics i love the energy bar
looks like the one from that pce game ganpei toumaden.
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05-20-2009
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Is it possible to get a copy of those without the smeared logo on them?
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05-20-2009
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Originally Posted by DevHackr
Is it possible to get a copy of those without the smeared logo on them?
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nope, sorry. I paid to get these so I'd like my site to have a bit of credit
And one with the show. Next up we have 20% version of Daytona. Yes, that's right, 20%!
Just check out this very early car select screen! The English used is quite interesting.
Here's a shot from a replay or so it seems. Notice the speed counter in the center of the screen. Also there's no background areas yet such as mountains or trees.
Only two cars available with the yellow one having really bad textures.
Just check out that wacky floor texture! Know what it is? Yes, that's right. It's the car's window texture! Also the textures on the car while not in place properly seem to be higher quality than those used in the final game.
Finally a better look at that yellow car's awful textures. Jsut look at the windscreen:oh:
More early Saturn game shots still to come
Yakumo
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05-20-2009
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Nice, I like how they used a wheel instead of a steering wheel on the select screen  What are those textures on the other car anyway? The manual car doesn't look anything like that in the final game!
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05-20-2009
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Mission Select
So you payed for those Yakumo? And now you are presenting them to all of us, very kind of you.
edit: actually I start to think the build we see in these shots looks more fun then what we got later as Daytona USA on saturn, bah. The only port I ever enjoyed was the Dreamcast one, but even that dosnt came close to the greatness that the arcade version was. Ah well.
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Originally Posted by 7Force
What are those textures on the other car anyway?
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No idea but it looks like someone is playing a guitar on the back half of it
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Originally Posted by MentalMan
So you payed for those Yakumo? And now you are presenting them to all of us, very kind of you. 
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Yes, I'm such as nice guy. Actually it's been a while since I presented anything nice here at ASEMMbler so it was time for some goodness. By the way, when I say I paid for the images I don't mean the actual pictures but the source from which hey came. You probably already guessed that though.
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Originally Posted by MentalMan
actually I start to think the build we see in these shots looks more fun then what we got later as Daytona USA on saturn, bah. The only port I ever enjoyed was the Dreamcast one, but even that dosnt came close to the greatness that the arcade version was. Ah well.
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To be honest, the first Saturn Daytona was a fantastic game to play. It was so close to the arcade for playability it was uncanny. AM2 did wonders getting the pad controls just right. It's a shame it looked like shit though. Dreamcast Daytona would be good if they kept the original tunes and the original looking cars even as a secret car would be nice.
Yakumo
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Can't wait we want more i think i may have some cool pics to add.:icon_bigg
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Originally Posted by Yakumo
To be honest, the first Saturn Daytona was a fantastic game to play. It was so close to the arcade for playability it was uncanny. AM2 did wonders getting the pad controls just right. It's a shame it looked like shit though. Dreamcast Daytona would be good if they kept the original tunes and the original looking cars even as a secret car would be nice.
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Does this also count for the original release? I could never play the supposed to be enhanced Championship Circuit Edition, also I never saw 60hz saturn daytona.
So honestly my opinion is based on the shit pal release I have flying around haha. It really is a shame it looks like it does, it always makes me depressed. Like the saturn couldnt do better, so therefore the fun gets left behind at the starting line haha. I do have to agree with the controls though, they are ported rather well.
For the DC version's control's, I've never understood why the analog had to be so sensitive. You get used to it but it feels and looks still awkward if you suddenly change the degree of steering or even max it out.
Btw, on youtube a long while ago, I saw a moddet version of DC's Daytona with Arcade sounds! Only audio department had been modified but damn, it did gave a lot of the old "feel" back
edit: Oh I think i've found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpQfQzd9cRM
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05-20-2009
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Originally Posted by MentalMan
Mission Select
So you payed for those Yakumo? And now you are presenting them to all of us, very kind of you.
edit: actually I start to think the build we see in these shots looks more fun then what we got later as Daytona USA on saturn, bah. The only port I ever enjoyed was the Dreamcast one, but even that dosnt came close to the greatness that the arcade version was. Ah well.
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The port may look bad, but it plays way better than the later Championship Circuit/Circuit Edition (the handling in that is just boring and there's absolutely no sense of speed), and that's what really matters IMO.
I think a different developer made CCE, and that's why it's nothing like the arcade - it pretty much feels like an inferior sequel than a version of the original Daytona. Of course, it would have been nice to have a real port with better graphics... BTW, it says Mission Select in the final too :110:
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Originally Posted by 7Force
The port may look bad, but it plays way better than the later Championship Circuit/Circuit Edition (the handling in that is just boring and there's absolutely no sense of speed), and that's what really matters IMO.
I think a different developer made CCE, and that's why it's nothing like the arcade - it pretty much feels like an inferior sequel than a version of the original Daytona. Of course, it would have been nice to have a real port with better graphics...
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Thank goodness I wasnt able to play it. Thanks for clearing that up, sound's like a typical 'third party' "enhancement".
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BTW, it says Mission Select in the final too :110:
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lol! That's awesome, didnt know that. I never noticed it.
Me choses to fight automatick, lez bettle.
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Originally Posted by MentalMan
Thank goodness I wasnt able to play it. Thanks for clearing that up, sound's like a typical 'third party' "enhancement".
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It's not really that bad, and it's not by a third party (I checked, it's by AM3 while the original was AM2), it just doesn't feel like Daytona at all.
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