Free voice thread.. say anything you want.

[Taemos]

As tachi already said this topic was discussed on the Legalize It thread and that ended on a rather sour note. Being a fellow moderator who agreed that this topic was not going to good places I went ahead and locked it as a precaution.

The thread was already degenerating into a pro drug vs anti drug skirmish which we've already had on this board. I'm sure you know no good comes from these topics, just like political chat. Everyone has their own viewpoints and noones going to budge on them.

Anyway since your calling my moderation into question we almost never get to use it. 99% of the time its spent deleting spam or informing people who make sale threads of the rules. Very rarely do we ever have to close a topic such as this so I dont know why you would call into question my moderating history.

It wouldn't have turned into a "pro drug vs. anti drug" discussion if you had done something to prevent that. Instead of cracking down on people trolling by posting images of "Winners Don't Use Drugs", you decided that "DRUGS ARE BAD AND WE CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THEM AT ALL." I would not have gotten defensive if I didn't have a reason to.

I honestly do not care in the slightest if you don't like drug use. If anyone wants to discuss it in a calm and civil manner, that is fine with me. Having people shoving opinions down my throat when they are not asked for is guaranteed to piss me off.

"Use" your moderating power? Being a moderator is a job, not a toy you use to close topics you don't like. If all you have to do is delete the occasional spam, then that's all you have to do. Closing a topic because you haven't had an excuse to use that ability in a long time is pathetic.

Edit: If you actually want to go back and read the "Legalize it" thread, Tachikoma even said he believed the discussion was civil. Again, this is not about pro drug vs. anti drug, but you forcing your opinions into what should be otherwise neutral matters.

[Dot50Cal]

The part about us not using our moderating in ages wasnt the reason why I closed the topic. As stated before it was because people were trolling the OP and none of the moderators liked where it was going (user vs user). The reason I brought that up is because its been so long, that some people may have gotten used to no moderation. Hence your backlash at this.

Im not going to reply to you anymore because you keep getting increasingly hostile so lets just agree to dis-agree. If you feel strongly about this I'd suggest PMing Kev to see what he thinks. As I dont think hes been around enough to surf this topic.

[Taemos]

If you believed some of the posters were trolling, then maybe you should've done something about their posts rather than close the entire topic. I like how you shifted attention to me, though.

I want to say this again, loud and clear: I do not have a problem with moderators (other than you). It appears to me, though, that you attempted to throw in a last word right before you closed the topic. You did not say a word about the posters who were trolling in the thread, other than the one PM you sent me. I saw no evidence of disciplinary action taken against them; instead you lock the thread for everyone who was actually posting relevant text.

I don't see where you noticed me being "hostile," however, I am quite displeased with the way you handled things, and I want to make that well known. If you would like to use that as an excuse to discontinue the conversation, though, I won't stop you.

[Alchy]

I know how Assembler will take such a PM. He's closed threads on drugs before now, and he was far more vocal about his personal feelings on the matter than Dot was.

It does seem to me like the conversation should have been shifted to this thread, though, rather than cut entirely. There's no rule I'm aware of against controversial subject matter in off-topic, in fact largely I'd say that's what it's there for: to facilitate civil conversation on topics of debate. I can't say I saw that thread going particularly nasty, but given the potential for heated discussion, it might be better at home here.

[ASSEMbler]

If you wish to discuss smokable products please do so in the unmoderated thread.

[Taemos]

If you wish to discuss smokable products please do so in the unmoderated thread.

I was calling Dot50Cal's moderating into question, rather than the discussion of drugs.

[Alien Workshop]

So, it looks like posts are once again being deleted when they don't sit well with certain moderators (even if the content in them is true). I like how some members are able to attack a new member with names such as 'fanboy' just because they post well thought and logical opinions, but when another member tries to 'help out' or 'protect' that new member, their post gets deleted.

The 'new moderation policy' has come to an end.

[Alchy]

AWS is talking about this thread, in case anyone else isn't sure.

I have no idea what was said, but it's complete bullshit that it's been deleted. We've been through this countless times before, too, and as Yakumo is well aware, it was agreed that posts wouldn't get deleted. Unless that changed over the past couple of months where I've not been around, there's some explaining to do.

[WolverineDK]

Yeah AWS, is talking about that thread, where he tried to "have fun". And then I said to him, he was lower than naveldust. But the thing is, why would he try to "have fun" , when he was caught up in a corner , and he felt the heat. And he then sent me a "truce pm" long ago ?

Well the thing is, AWS is someone I don´t care about, and I couldn´t care less, of him that I do now.
And well I think he was saved by a cunthair on the weight scale if he would get banned or not. Long ago. When he sent me the gay PM.


And well, why his and my post got deleted, was perhaps the moderators didn´t want any funky war. And that is something I understand.

[ASSEMbler]

I updated the rules, we no longer delete posts / moderate EXCEPT for trolling.

Trolling meaning statements that serve no purpose except to create conflict, like "Fuck all (minority group) they are nothing but faggots"

With that now understood say what you will.

Moderation by definition is a job that puts you at odds with the moderated.
So to disagree with them from time to time is natural, esp if you're the one who was moderated.

[Alien Workshop]

Yeah AWS, is talking about that thread, where he tried to "have fun". And then I said to him, he was lower than naveldust. But the thing is, why would he try to "have fun" , when he was caught up in a corner , and he felt the heat. And he then sent me a "truce pm" long ago ?

Well the thing is, AWS is someone I don´t care about, and I couldn´t care less, of him that I do now.
And well I think he was saved by a cunthair on the weight scale if he would get banned or not. Long ago. When he sent me the gay PM.


And well, why his and my post got deleted, was perhaps the moderators didn´t want any funky war. And that is something I understand.

Dude, give it up already. I never "felt the heat" from you, I only ever laughed at you. Everyone laughs at you and NO ONE takes you seriously. I only made that truce PM because ASSEMbler and some of the mods told me to back off, so I figured that would help. It did for a while, because I kept my end of the deal, but you didn't. Here's just two examples of times you tried to call me out AFTER the truce pm (which you agreed to!):

http://assemblergames.com/forums/sho...t=12287&page=2
http://assemblergames.com/forums/sho...t=11818&page=3

How many times did I mention your name after that... zero. Up until I had enough of your crap. You shouldn't be able to insult new members and call them fanboys just because you want to kiss Yakumo's ass every chance you can get. But hey, I'm just "having fun" right?

You know what WDK, I don't really give a damn about you either. I'm glad you don't like me, and I think it's hilarious that you think I'm the most evil thing on the face of the earth. I may be evil, but at least I'm not a racist, like you WDK. Yeah, by now everyone knows about those racist remarks you made to Eva-01. And I know you're going to try to call me racist because somehow you equate "not liking illegal immigration" to "racism", but if I'm racist then answer this question for me, why would I go out with and Indonesian girl? Huh, why would the girl I love and want to spend the rest of my life be a different ethnicity from me if I'm such a huge racist. It's clearly not possible.

And I know you're getting all giddy as you read this because you love "attacking me", and "throwing me to the masses to be ripped apart", and "bringing the heat on", but you know what? Maybe you should just stop this petty ass shit. I tried with that truce PM, but your urge to "lay down the law" is just too much for you. I'm sick and tired of it and I'm sure there are many other member who are too (and then there are those who get a good laugh from it, come on you know who you are ;-) ), but seriously, no one really cares about your vendettas.

And I know you're probably about to spout a lot of stuff about me being a gay hater and blah blah blah, backed up by the 50million links to all the gay hating posts I made, and that gay hating PM I sent you oh so long ago that is still fresh on your mind, but you know what? We've seen it all, many times, so no need to turn this into a gay hating argument.

And that's pretty much all I have to say, so flame away ye olde flamewarrior you, flame away! :icon_bigg

[Mr. Casual]

I've always noticed Yakumo being biased and waving his power around and deleting posts that he "didn't like" before that new rule was implemented. Some of which wouldn't really be constituted as trolling either, just a middle aged man getting pissed at people younger than him, and deleting their posts, because they obviously "Have no taste in games, or are fanboys"

I swear, Sega fanboys like Yakumo are the worst.

And lets not even start on the whole "Western gamers have no taste in games" bullshit.

[ASSEMbler]

Can't please everyone. I prefer the calmer minds of our european friends to americans as mods.

[WolverineDK]

AWS: listen up, if we are talking about Evangelion-01, then listen. Long ago, he and I had an MSN conversation, where he provoked so much, so I shouted in anger "Atleast I am a white man". So now listen again, I am neither gay or a racist !. And second of all, I don´t care what ever colour you God damn are, and what ever language you speak, if you can´t behave. Then I am not fond of you. Also when the incident happened with Evangelion-01 there I sent the msn log to one of my friends for safe keeping. Since I felt somebody should know the truth about what happened. Since it prooved, that I wasn´t a racist. Perhaps the friend I have is not around at the moment, but he could clarify my statement. Even if he doesn´t have my msn log anymore.

So do you know what ? I don´t care.


And to ASSEMblers reply , you can´t please everybody. It is just tough love really. And if I remember correct, then you aren´t very fond of Mexicans by the way. So double standards ahoy mate.

[Alien Workshop]

AWS: listen up, if we are talking about Evangelion-01, then listen. Long ago, he and I had an MSN conversation, where he provoked so much, so I shouted in anger "Atleast I am a white man". So now listen again, I am neither gay or a racist !. And second of all, I don´t care what ever colour you God damn are, and what ever language you speak, if you can´t behave. Then I am not fond of you. Also when the incident happened with Evangelion-01 there I sent the msn log to one of my friends for safe keeping. Since I felt somebody should know the truth about what happened. Since it prooved, that I wasn´t a racist. Perhaps the friend I have is not around at the moment, but he could clarify my statement. Even if he doesn´t have my msn log anymore.

So do you know what ? I don´t care.


And to ASSEMblers reply , you can´t please everybody. It is just tough love really. And if I remember correct, then you aren´t very fond of Mexicans by the way. So double standards ahoy mate.

You're memory is incorrect and I know you're very familiar with double standards, so shut your mouth and stop trying to lecture me. I don't need the rantings of some hypocritical lunatic every time I get pissed and say "that's gay" or every time I say something you don't agree with because as open minded as you THINK you are, you are actually very narrow. So stop your stupid ass shit, because I don't give a damn what you think.

[ASSEMbler]

I think if you two ever met the world would implode...

[WolverineDK]

You're memory is incorrect and I know you're very familiar with double standards, so shut your mouth and stop trying to lecture me. I don't need the rantings of some hypocritical lunatic every time I get pissed and say "that's gay" or every time I say something you don't agree with because as open minded as you THINK you are, you are actually very narrow. So stop your stupid ass shit, because I don't give a damn what you think.

Oh I forgot, it is only the Spanish language you aren´t fond of. Because you can´t speak the language, and also when all those people you have near you, they don´t speak English. Then you think it sucks or some thing like that.
Oops my bad.

[Mr. Casual]

Can't please everyone. I prefer the calmer minds of our european friends to americans as mods.

Well, I thought GSL was a pretty damn good mod. Too bad he stopped posting.

And you're definitely smoking something powerful if you think WDK is calm in any of his posts just because he is European. Every other thread has him throwing a temper tantrum at the slightest thing.

I'm still surpised he didn't attack Gaijinpunch the other day for using the word "Gay" in a derogatory manner in my Shadow of the Colossus thread. A few other people, Gaijinpunch included, are baffled as well.

And to top it off with one of my favorite posts ever (from GSL no less!)....

We know you fought against homophobia. We know you're a staunch defender of every human right imaginable, and have been discriminated against in a vaguely, obscurely horrifying manner at some point in the murky past. Why do we know this? Because you bring it up in every other goddamn post. Your dedication is honestly commendable. The frequent martyric disgressions are not, especially when they have little to nothing to do with the topic at hand. Everyone here knows full well that you've had it tough in the past, now just drop it and try to keep your posts relevant.

It was true then and it is true today. I'm starting to think WDK got banned from all those other forums just because everyone got fed up with his constant bitching.

WDK is the Jack Thompson of gay rights activists.:rolleyes:

[Alien Workshop]

Oh I forgot, it is only the Spanish language you aren´t fond of. Because you can´t speak the language, and also when all those people you have near you, they don´t speak English. Then you think it sucks or some thing like that.
Oops my bad.

Yes, because it's so wrong to expect someone to learn your country's language when they decide to move there to live. I'm such a racist because I expect people to learn English when they move to the US. I mean shit, you have hundreds of people coming from hundreds of countries across the world each year learning English just so they can go to school here for 4 years. However if they want to live here, they shouldn't be expected to. It makes so much sense now!

[WolverineDK]

AWS: check your pm.

Mr. Casual: Do me a favour and shut up.