A real Revolution? Let's all hope.

[Johnny]

AS ALWAYS, PEOPLE WILL GO WHERE THE GAME THEY LIKE WILL GO. (this is the maximum truth ;) )

in my example i have yet to choose my next generation console:

i love rpg, (Final Fantasy, Dragon Warrior, Suikoden, Growlanser, ecc ecc), driving games (better saying gran turismo, actually), strategic games (like FFT, disgea etc), 2d fighting games (KOF) and soul calibur/edge/whatever it is... Winning eleven, Metal gear saga.

so, how can i choose? Revolution won't move me if i can't see anything NEW GENERATION that i like coming. you can play emulators on pc or a modded xbox without paying for them (awful i know) or on the real hardware.

the ones i listed up there are the games that can make me buy a new system. The system that pleases me more with games will win.

tought i "fear" it'll be PS3 :( nintendo was AWFUL at getting proper support fron third party developers, so far..... i cheer up for ninty (for i loved the SNES) but i'm not optimistic at all.

Karsten

Totally agree with you. This is exactly why i haven't got a Xbox or plan to have a Xbox 360. And it's exactly why i have a PS2 and plan on getting a PS3.

Sony has the most variety of games on their consoles. Everytime someone mentions Xbox, it's always the same games. Halo, DOA, Ninja Gaiden, PGR and Forza. (i would add Panzer Dragoon Orta and Outrun2). Those games are great but won't make a system a success on their own.

The Revolution/Go is already on my wish-list, but the price of this retro games feature (each game cost, and so on) will be a very important starting point to see if it gonna succedd or not.

[Alchy]

It seems strange how many of my mates who are army FPS/sports gamers are saying they'll be getting a Revolution on the side. Sitting around talking football, drinking beers and playing Ghost Recon on Xbox, it took me a little by surprise when everyone in the room kind of casually agreed they'd pick one up around launch if it cost £150 or less.

I think once most people see a video of how the controller could work as opposed to what it looks like in a photo, something clicks and the potential becomes obvious.

So what does the rumour mill think is going to be the remaining revolutionary feature?

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

I prefer them to go with option 3, but my point is in choosing to go with option 3 rather than option 1 (btw I said 'kid-friendly', not 'kiddie', there's a big difference) then they're taking a risk.

I don't see how anything we know about the Revolution rules out that Nintendo will continue to make *EXACLY* the kind of games they always have. They just might have a new control mechanism is all (I say might because I still think it's pretty likely that most games--including many from Nintendo themselves--will use traditional control methods, just like many DS games do).

Anyway, as I said in my original post, they haven't done enough to convince me that they are being that revolutionary. Old games and a new controller doesn't cut it for me.

Add in ultra low cost dev kit, online game distribution, DS connectivity and who knows what else. Does any or all of that amount to a "revolution"? I don't know and I don't care. Personally, I can't wait for Nintendo to officially change the system's name just so people will stop whining, "what's so revolutionary about this, what's so revolutionary about that?" If you like what you've heard about the system and you think it brings some interesting possibilities for enjoyment, then don't worry about whether it's revolutionary, just say you're looking forward to it.


...word is bondage...

[zappenduster]

the thing that makes me thinking nintendo should have a large amount of money in the back alone from the sale of the handhelds since they wherent as technology challenging as the home consoles and so cheaper to produce ?

[modrobert]

Endless sequels, lack of innovation, and a feeling of a lack of progress with the
new console generation.

"It's the same thing, but it looks a little better"

If you live to be old enough most stuff (games, music, movies) will either be a remake or retro in some way, but not in the eyes of the young.

I have this "theory of cycles" where everything come back in one way or another within a couple of decades, so to fit in and never feel bored of remakes/reruns (or any other form of dejavu) one should not live to be older than 30 years. ;)


BTW;

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=christmas+N64

OMG!

[Shadowlayer]

Nice one assembler, but honestly I see a shorter, simpler anwer to the revo concept: fanboyism

Since the pokemon whore-out, nintendo has been living from just 2 things: the GBA and the fanboys.

The GBA obviously represented the major part of the profit (since it was the only portable for quite some time) but the console division (GC) was mainly supported by nintendo fanboys.

So, if everybody is makings cadillacs, what can you do? you start making corvettes, which are not so powerfull as the caddyes, yet their are wuite cheaper.

The revo is a low-end console (for this generation) but capitalizes in 3 main spots:

*Fanboys that buy old stuff and will constantly download the old games from the net.

*Non-gaming people, like elders and those who buy games for their cellphones. The revo is affordable to them and the gameplay is simple (shit, release Rez on this one and you got all those MTV kids and potheads hooked to it)

*a cheap console: with the costant cuts in the GCs price nintendo found something, and that a lot of people who already had a Xbox or a PS2 bought the GC as a secondary console. The reason was simple: there were a few games that are must-buy and the console was so cheap it didnt hurt your pocket.

Honestly I think SEGA could have done the same: take the DC, pump more power (like the new SH7 and VR4, so it would be compatible with DC games) to make it a little more powerfull than PS2 and GC, add internal memory (or the capability for that, like the revo does) an exterior redesing, some gizmos (like a wireless controller with headset port) and presto! you've the revolution.

Too bad SEGA is too broke to do it:-(