what do you guys think about matrix reloaded \revolutions ?

[cahaz]

the title say everthing .
some persons think that reloaded and revolution have no real big story like in the first matrix ,but its they are all wrong , the story goes really further and deeper .
i think it was great , its not a blockbuster movie (just action...) its more than that but a lot of person haven't see this.....
the only bad thing i can say....the society isn't really here.... (like in the first matrix ...)

great trilogy.... the two last one seem underestimated since morpheus isn't there to translate this really complex story.

more mythology...more ......more,..... more everything!!!!!



special mention to revolution

who is darker and better... great end


o and by the way , do you think zion is real or unreal ?

i dont know what to think
some great clues make me think that its unreal .... a matrix in the matrix?

[Tachikoma]

You forgot the poll option "its tripe and they should have left it at one movie"

They intentionally made it so people would think its possibly a matrix within a matrix, the whole Agent Smith transferring to a real body, and Neo's super powers outside of the matrix. I didn't think it was all that clever, it stunk of cash-in and "now we have exhausted the Ghost in the Shell influences, what do we do now? oh yeah, lets have lots of big fights so people don't notice the total lack of plot"

[cahaz]

oh, so for you there is no plot? no story ? no complicated things? so for you , who is the mother of the matrix? who is really the oracle ? who the hell is neo.....? no? are those humans are really free?
what mean the word ''free'' ?
neo is free or not ?
he isn't but he is .....
did you know what are the origins of the oracle ?
waht does smith want?




there's a lot of thing to thing that its a matrix within a matrix....
not only neo and smith..... and its not because of these two one that i think that its a matrix within a matrix....


-in each reload , (if you listen carefully to the story...) its always the same heroes or counter-heroesthat make the story.... (morpheus , trinity , neo , niobe, smith , ....) if zion was reality , in the end of revolution , eceryone should return to zero. but do you really think that mopheus and co. would gently return in the cocoons ?
and those who live a long time in zion .....regenerate to the starting ages?


- each heroes are returning in the reload..... each doing the same thing (not exactly ...but they make the same end.... a reload....
but .... (and i can prove that she returning to live in each reload... just take a look at the neo's dreams.......) how can neo reload the next matrix if trinity is dead? (because we all know that everyone in the matrix have something to do ... ) return to life? its a thing that can't happen in the real world everyone know this..... but in the matrix , yes.....



trinity is obligated to die... (!!) at each reload she die .... but not always from the same thing... in a previous reload , we saw trinity dying in the fall with the agent....


- 5 reload have been made....at each time zion is reconstruct and everyone forgot who attacked them?


- the architect said it , the machines attacked 5 times zions and they devellop a good way to attack it... so its alway the same zion , each time made at the same place , made by the same way.....
reload anyone?




anyway....next time you saw the trilogy...... just listen! :smt023

[Tachikoma]

anyway....next time you saw the trilogy...... just listen! :smt023

If I can stay awake long enough, or pay enough attention when not laughing at the crap special effects, I will :smt023

[LeGIt]

Reloaded was okish, Revolutions I just sat there in the cinema barely entertained. they shouldn't have bothered to make any sequel whatsoever though as it takes away the perfection of the original ....

[SilverBolt]

Reloaded was utter crap with the exeption of the 100000 agent smiths vs Neo now that scene kicks ass !!
The story was unfolding way to slowly and they tried to keep the pace up with a lot of special effect scenes.

I loved revolution becauase you finaly find out what smith is and what he stands for also all the bits&bobs of the 2nd movie start to make a bit more scenes (like the blabbering architect yapping away in complicated words :smt023 ), and of course the giant slaughter for zion just blew me straight of my chair :smt040

All in all the matrix triology is IMHO one of the best movies ever with reloaded being the worst of the 3 (kinda like episode 1 of starwars which was utter crap compared to the rest, but was needed to unfold the story)

[TheDeathcoaster]

I've never seen those two....because I thought the first film was really boring. I guess that makes me the complete odd one out ¬_¬

[Baseley09]

Utter shit.

The first Matrix movie is a great sci fi flick, Animatrx was quite good in places (the first few stories).

The last 2 movies were just awful. They did however have a few bits of good special effect. That is all.

[Paulo]

f**K me the last 2 films were crap.. i mean have fights but WTF is with neo flying everywhere a punch sends u in to space bla bla
The story became crap and the whole thing just stunk of what the hell lets make money for nothing....


ON THE OTHER HAND....

I do wish to know if the plot was the same when aliyah was in the film? Or did the have to refilm alot of it?

[Johnny]

You will probably hate me, but i liked Reloaded and Revolutions. They simply continued the plot of the first.

http://www.thematrix101.com/

Check this amazing site. Is great how it put things together, and answer lot of questions that remained.

:toimonster:

[cahaz]

yes , the refilmed a lot of scenes ....
but i dont know why everybody said that the story is crap....
iits a really deep story.....just hide by a lot of special efect.....

you should all read this , they are in french sorry , but maybe youll be able to read with a traductor...
its a bit long but you could discover intersting things.....

http://www.lecyb.org/article.php?sid=93

and a english one:
http://homenetz.com/matrixreloaded/i...feefd1bd84641c


search google if you whant other intersting things.....


the matrix trilogy......the key is really deep .....and the story far more complicated than a lot of person think....





btw : persephone is the mother of the matrix .....

and the orcale IS neo.....

and alot of pepeole think that there's two matrix .....


how intersting is that ? now find other things !

no one know ....maybe neo is now in the real world.... third , fourth?





:smt033 :smt040

[cahaz]

i havent see the post of jonny ....i dont hate you ^_^

matrix revoluton and reloaded ARE VERY GOOD .... not just a movie with special effects


intersting , very intersting :

http://thematrix101.com/contrib/pmccord_sito.php

deeper and deeper..........






.find that key!

[Metal_4evr]

There are lots of little things within the movies but don't you think you are overthinking it a bit? People take these movies way too seriously and over think them to the point where the connections they make are more entertaining than the movies (First was excellent but 2,3 were god awfull). Maddox says it all here http://www.maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix3 and here http://www.maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix2
I'm atleast thankfull I didn't pay to see either of them.

[Greatsaintlouis]

I have yet to see Revolutions (maybe if I get bored enough and can watch it without spending any money) but Reloaded sucked ass. It was like the Wachowsky brothers took everything that was cool in The Matrix and amplified it by 10, which isn't nessicarily a good thing. It's like, "3..2..1.. slow motion. 3..2..1..slow motion." And the CG wasn't even all that good in this one - the big brawl scene has some of the most horrendous problems I've seen in recent movies, and I'm not totally sure how it escaped the editing floor. Overall, Reloaded was miserable, they should have left it at just one film, as that nicely left you with the question, "What happens next?" yet not much of a burning desire to really have it answered. Unfortunately, there were two answers.... one of which I can say sucked, and the other one I've heard sucked more.

Although it was funny to hear The Architect say phrases like "ergo" and "vis-a-vis" - that went totally over the heads of some people I know. :smt043

[SilverBolt]

I have yet to see Revolutions (maybe if I get bored enough and can watch it without spending any money) but Reloaded sucked ass. It was like the Wachowsky brothers took everything that was cool in The Matrix and amplified it by 10, which isn't nessicarily a good thing. It's like, "3..2..1.. slow motion. 3..2..1..slow motion." And the CG wasn't even all that good in this one - the big brawl scene has some of the most horrendous problems I've seen in recent movies, and I'm not totally sure how it escaped the editing floor. Overall, Reloaded was miserable, they should have left it at just one film, as that nicely left you with the question, "What happens next?" yet not much of a burning desire to really have it answered. Unfortunately, there were two answers.... one of which I can say sucked, and the other one I've heard sucked more.

Although it was funny to hear The Architect say phrases like "ergo" and "vis-a-vis" - that went totally over the heads of some people I know. :smt043

I know what you mean i talked with a lot of people who had seen the movie and just didn't understand anything the architect was talking about :smt043

[Paulo]

The ONLY good thing that came out of those films were the damn funny MTV spoofs for the awards... Now they were better then the films!!! :smt043

[Paulo]

yes , the refilmed a lot of scenes ....

Maybe thats why it turned out so crap!