Community Release: Sonic Xtreme

[Alchy]

Well, when you've got 22 hours, not much can be done :P. The Sonic nut members here KNOW who Assembler was, but they were still skeptical.

That's a shame. It would've been nicer to hold back that scepticism in a thread that was clearly designated to generate PMs of interest. Hardly your fault though.

No offense taken, I don't go to the Cult, but the people there tend to have wads of cash lying around for this EXACT purpose :). I run my own site, Secrets of Sonic Team in combatance with it, but my forum is fairly dead in comparison.

Excellent site. You list a game I wasn't aware of Jurrassic Boy 2, it looks interesting...

[liquitt]

:noooo:

I don't want to be here to fight. I explain why the skeptics are being skeptics, and you reply like that? I'm not just some 10 year old "n00b" as you probably think I am. I'm very much in the collection of crazy gadgets and prototypes as many of you are, I just don't post here.

All I'm saying is that this could have been handled a lot better than it was.

well, you may be right, maybe wrong, who knows, but fact is that i overreacted, sorry about that

[madhatter256]

WOw. So much has happened in the past 10 hours I've been asleep. Sucks that I won't get to play this gem.

Before you close this thread, I suggest that from now on, when it comes to high profile games such as this, then just create a special forum where only certain members can view the thread, whether it be via number of posts or contributions. Have it where you can control how this information spreads so that it gets to the right people who know how to handle these types of situations and not let it get all fucked up like this did.

Like if you are looking for a buyer, since most of us probably can't afford such games, then some members can get a hold of on and not cause any commotion while they're doing it. And it all stays calm and clean, no flame wars, no bickering, nothing.

I'm not bitching and moaning now like some secret sonic fans are right now since the seller backed off because of what has happened. If the game was released to the community then that is wonderful, if not, then oh well, there will always be a next time; it's not the end of the world!

THink about this though.... this site would not be able to handle Saturn Shenmue if it is done the way Sonic Xtreme was just handled...

[Borisz]

I'd like to ask one thing, regardless of the outcome of this topic.
How was this a "near complete version" when about half dozen former devs already said that the game was never that far in developement?

Also, did the seller honestly think that it would be possible to not cause a public uproar with this? News of an existing prototype of such a big title go around the internet easily if you put it up for sale. Dump it in bincue and upload it to a guy you know you can trust and can share it to others and presto its released without everyone jumping on you. You stay anonymous, people get the goods, the site is not flooded with all the 14 year old idiots you keep mentioning, and so on.

[Carnivol]

You mean no new registrations? The forum would die because no new members could replace the old ones who lost interest/had real life to deal with/whatever else.

Sorry if I didn't elaborate properly there, what I meant was like a forum topic setting (kinda like a sticky, news, locked, etc..) that restricted who're allowed to post inside that very topic somehow.

After all, if I linked you to a forum of a guy you'd never heard of offering Sonic Xtreme, if you'd pay $60, yet showed absolutely no evidence he actually had it...would you be so willing, even if the forum *said* he was someone you could so blindly trust? Look at it from other peoples perspectives, before tossing around insults.

Speaking of insults, you may notice I use only a few insults, rather than multiple in a sentence. What do you think that says about me, as opposed to most of you? For those of you mature enough to respond and counter without baseless insults, I thank you. For the rest, grow up.

First of all, just stop putting yourself up on a pidestal as if you're some sort of supreme being or something, atleast as long as you go on with the "would you blindly give 60 bucks to random stranger" thing.

I've probably said it hundreds of times, but you probably ignore it for reasons unknown to man, so I shall give it a 3rd (?) attempt now:

This topic did was never a "give me your money" thing.
It was a simple question if people would be willing to pay a certain amount of money, for something that obviously is VERY WELL known to you.

Would you pay $60 if this game became available?
YES or NO.

Simple as that, and in this case, if enough people would've read and understood this very simple question and said yes, chances are that you'd have the chance to pay and get your hands on the game.

How hard is that to understand?

Would the little that was presented here be enough for you to give out *your* money, if the tables were turned, and you were the one visiting a forum you'd never heard of before?

Most likely, yes, atleast if the forum had a community the size of this and doing quick searches on the community and key people involved gives rather positive results/impressions.

[_skitzo_]

Ok, so it appears people are wishing upon a star here...

If this is real, Im posting $3,000 USD for this, i have had diffrent offer for another version which I feel I shoud buy, but I want to see how serious this seller is...

[sabre470]

I'd like to ask one thing, regardless of the outcome of this topic.
How was this a "near complete version" when about half dozen former devs already said that the game was never that far in developement?

As far as I understand Assembler comments above, he apparently was in contact with somebody in Japan and considering the history of SEGA I wouldn't be surprised if Sega of Japan and Sega of America were running 2 separate projects for the same title at the same time. We only heard about the US people involved in its development. Japan is far more secretive about their projects, so maybe it's a piece of history we don't know about. And bear in mind that SOJ was pretty pissed off when SOA tried to use the Nights engine for Sonic Xtreme. So communication between these 2 entities might not have been the best.

Correct me, Assembler if I'm wrong, that is just my assumptions.

Sabre

[madhatter256]

As far as I understand Assembler comments above, he apparently was in contact with somebody in Japan and considering the history of SEGA I wouldn't be surprised if Sega of Japan and Sega of America were running 2 separate projects for the same title at the same time. We only heard about the US people involved in its development. Japan is far more secretive about their projects, so maybe it's a piece of history we don't know about. And bear in mind that SOJ was pretty pissed off when SOA tried to use the Nights engine for Sonic Xtreme. So communication between these 2 entities might not have been the best.

Correct me, Assembler if I'm wrong, that is just my assumptions.

Sabre

As far as I know, Sonic X-treme was strictly an american project right from the get-go.

[_skitzo_]

I could careless about what people are going back and forth on...I would like the seller to read my offer...if this is real $3,000 usd...I will wait for a responce

[Nack the Weasel]

How damn mature. Edit my post. ...Wow, that's a new low.

You can't counter me, so you outright *change what I said*. No, not even a modded post, which would be biased enough considering the flames from others, but an *editted* post.

Jesus christ, how can anyone defend immature, childish actions such as just fucking with someones post rather than counter their points intelligently?

[sabre470]

As far as I know, Sonic X-treme was strictly an american project right from the get-go.

That's my understanding too, but you never know with SEGA, Saturn Shenmue anyone? Or this could be a pre-sonic adventure title renamed Sonic Xtreme.

???

Sabre

[sabre470]

How damn mature. Edit my post. ...Wow, that's a new low.

You can't counter me, so you outright *change what I said*. No, not even a modded post, which would be biased enough considering the flames from others, but an *editted* post.

Jesus christ, how can anyone defend immature, childish actions such as just fucking with someones post rather than counter their points intelligently?

The answer you are looking for is "We don't care" or "waft :shrug:"

Sabre

[Nack the Weasel]

Sorry if I didn't elaborate properly there, what I meant was like a forum topic setting (kinda like a sticky, news, locked, etc..) that restricted who're allowed to post inside that very topic somehow.




First of all, just stop putting yourself up on a pidestal as if you're some sort of supreme being or something, atleast as long as you go on with the "would you blindly give 60 bucks to random stranger" thing.

I've probably said it hundreds of times, but you probably ignore it for reasons unknown to man, so I shall give it a 3rd (?) attempt now:

This topic did was never a "give me your money" thing.
It was a simple question if people would be willing to pay a certain amount of money, for something that obviously is VERY WELL known to you.

Would you pay $60 if this game became available?
YES or NO.

Simple as that, and in this case, if enough people would've read and understood this very simple question and said yes, chances are that you'd have the chance to pay and get your hands on the game.

How hard is that to understand?





Most likely, yes, atleast if the forum had a community the size of this and doing quick searches on the community and key people involved gives rather positive results/impressions.

I'll get back to you on that, as those are good, intelligent, mature points and I'm glad to finally get an adult in here, rather than the children I've been dealing with.

But it'll have to wait, as I'm posting from school and I have to get to class now. I'm just posting this so you know I'm not just ignoring you.

[Nack the Weasel]

The answer you are looking for is "We don't care" or "waft :shrug:"

Sabre

A "talk to the hand" approach, eh?

Nice.

[Carnivol]

I have to say I'm really curious about what this is.
Even though Sonic Xtreme is far from the "most wanted" on my list, it's still an interesting piece of history and certainly something that've opened lots of weird questions in my mind that I'd really like to see answered through setting my teeths into a sample of this title.




@Nack

Drop it already, atleast if you're going into the field of immatureness, intelligence and such, as it's almost as if you wont admit to misunderstanding the entire topic.

[Szczepaniak]

Oh good lord, I feared this would happen.

I think a private forum, for established members, would be a good idea for such things. While I love the open policy nature of this forum, it does allow for random people to turn up and cause trouble. A private section should in theory ensure that people are at least aware of some expected etiquette.

[FaZyCrUcK]

I could careless about what people are going back and forth on...I would like the seller to read my offer...if this is real $3,000 usd...I will wait for a responce

Lets keep the interesting posts, lol

Why so many new kids biccering?

[_skitzo_]

This is very nice how people are talking about Sonic X, it really is..mind doing your bullshit flamewar somewhere else? I would like to bring Sonic X to Assembler... with that being said.. once again..I wish for the seller not to miss my post due to you clowns crying over whatever ever it is you may be...

$3,000 for Sonic X the seller of this appreantly new version

[sabre470]

A "talk to the hand" approach, eh?

Nice.

Kind of ... yeah!!!

Look mate, I think it's got dirty enough for today, excitment turned into frustration and verbal violence, flaming.

I don't think we can get the whole planet to agree together. So let's stop this.

Maybe there are other topics we can discuss and get to know you better.

How's that for a start?

Sabre

[A. Snow]

This thread is FUBAR. I suggest we lock it and all move on.