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    Game Controller Family Tree

    I found this pretty interesting to post. Its a compilation of all the videogame controllers out there put into a family tree. With Atari being the first one and towards the end, every controller has a lil bit of Nintendo in then them

    http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/

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    That's pretty awesome.

    Yeah, I love how Nintendo influenced every controller since NES. The D-Pad is the greatest evolutionary step in controllers.

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    Meh...I think there isn't nearly enough links around...too many straight lines...they should be shooting all over the place. Oh...and the "SFC Proto Pad" is a freaking famiclone controller.
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    that's great, thanks for posting :)

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    I didn't like that feature. Defiantly written by a Nintendo fan boy plus some facts are wrong. As mentioned above, the SFC proto pad is well a clone pad.

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    Also, no Marty Controller, and no Turbo-Duo (R and RX) controllers, thus, no PCFX Controller. Totally neglected the NEC side of things, and those have great stuff to write about.

    Plus, there's no mention of analogue PONG Knobs, which also had switches that might have become joystick levers - then the Paddle.

    Still, though, nice idea to begin with. Needs lots of work.

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    yeah but the poor JAg controller couldn't find a mate. In the wild the heard knows to thin out the weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakumo
    I didn't like that feature. Defiantly written by a Nintendo fan boy plus some facts are wrong. As mentioned above, the SFC proto pad is well a clone pad.

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    seriously, where would you put nintendo controller's then? You all know i recently falled in love with nintendo, and i dont hide it, but seriously speaking as an old gamer who likes who is a old-school sega nuts, i cannot deny that nintendo helped alot to creat today's controller. This tree isnt complete, but you still cannot deny that the d-pad, shoulder buttons, analog joystiq (as we know it right now), shoulder buttons and rumbler features were ideas taken from nintendo. And i dont blame them for doing so.

    I hate all this fanboy calling recently. Its not because the truth tend for a compagny or another and that someone underline it that it is fanboyish, you cant deny the truth.

    It seems like you cant love a compagny better or give credit to another anymore here.

    compagnies just released better controllers for their existing hardware only because of nintendo's innovations, in the gold era. And that means alot.

    The others inovations i can think of are the dual analog joysticks on the dualshock, and the analog triggers on the sega dreamcast. The LCD screen on dreamcast controllers (sold separatly though) could be considered also.

    i must agree that it needs more research and work though. Still a good start, and a nice link to shoot at those so called "hardcore" gamers on gamefaq or ign.

    This page is still under construction. If you have any feedback, suggestions or photos of interesting or revolutionary controllers, don't hesitate to send me an email.
    i think you should help him rather than bash, its a cool concept of a man that thinks video game's history should be documented.
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    Problems as I see them:

    1. Not every controller from the upcoming generation needs to link to the Wavebird. Nintendo didn't invent wireless controllers. Nintendo didn't just come up with that idea...and then everybody copied it. The technology just recently became reliable enough to use in a first party controller.

    2. Aside from being for the NES, NES Advantage has nothing to do with the NES controllers. It's an arcade stick.

    3. The implication that the SNES Pad is directly responsible for everything afterward...not ackowledging that the PSX pad (which did get its inspiration in SNES pads....which borrowed some of the curves of Genesis) was the big influence afterwards...

    4. The whole implication that game controllers died before NES came along. What about trackballs? And the INTV disk...those had to have had some influence on later generations....

    5. The idea that Sega just pulled the idea for six buttons out of their asses one day...Arcade influence once again.

    Am I crazy?
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    I saw this some time ago, and is quite funny he dosent see the connection between the vetrex pad and others arcade pads (like nintendo's one) nor the fact that SEGA practically invented the "wings" layout to add more ergonomics. But for this guy, both the VB and N64 pads came out of the blue, no connection whatsoever with the Genesis pad...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blur2040
    3. The implication that the SNES Pad is directly responsible for everything afterward...
    Not only that: is obvious nintendo invented the analog, but the reality is that SEGA got it into the market first, and the thumb-pad system is what every pad today (even nintendo made) uses today, and not the thumb.stick from the N64, that was both imprecise and it breaks out too easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yakumo
    I didn't like that feature. Defiantly written by a Nintendo fan boy plus some facts are wrong.
    100% agree, according to this guy nintendo invented the wheel and discovered fire too:rolleyes:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlayer
    I saw this some time ago, and is quite funny he dosent see the connection between the vetrex pad and others arcade pads (like nintendo's one) nor the fact that SEGA practically invented the "wings" layout to add more ergonomics. But for this guy, both the VB and N64 pads came out of the blue, no connection whatsoever with the Genesis pad...



    Not only that: is obvious nintendo invented the analog, but the reality is that SEGA got it into the market first, and the thumb-pad system is what every pad today (even nintendo made) uses today, and not the thumb.stick from the N64, that was both imprecise and it breaks out too easily.



    100% agree, according to this guy nintendo invented the wheel and discovered fire too:rolleyes:

    Well now since everyone is so smart, why dont you all take into consideration he is only going off what he may know? Rather then using the term fanboy? which now is getting out of hand. My dvd player is gray shade almost the same as NES...Does that make me a fanboy now?
    The term fanboy has been so grossly over used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _skitzo_
    Well now since everyone is so smart, why dont you all take into consideration he is only going off what he may know? Rather then using the term fanboy?
    You know whats funny about your dumb-ass comments? that in the quote you're using I never say the word "fanboy":110::dance:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlayer
    You know whats funny about your dumb-ass comments? that in the quote you're using I never say the word "fanboy":110::dance:
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlayer
    100% agree, according to this guy nintendo invented the wheel and discovered fire too
    Really? could have fooled me...ohh what ever did you mean with this comment is beyond me
    Last edited by _skitzo_; 02-25-2006 at 05:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _skitzo_
    Really? could have fooled me...ohh what ever did you mean with this comment is beyond me
    But I didnt say the guy is a fanboy, so you're either stoned or paranoic my friend...

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    my master system is a fucking fanboy. It only plays master system games.


    Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur2040
    Problems as I see them:

    1. Not every controller from the upcoming generation needs to link to the Wavebird. Nintendo didn't invent wireless controllers. Nintendo didn't just come up with that idea...and then everybody copied it. The technology just recently became reliable enough to use in a first party controller.
    Not to sure but isn't atari the first first party company to come out with wireless controllers? Sure it was not the same technology used in wavebird/x360/ps3 but it does predate the nes satalite (which i think used even a more different technology which was IR).

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    The thing with the wavebird is that nintendo got it right - right weight, right battery life, right size. Others have come and gone before, but have only had any 2 of the 3. Only problem with the wavebird is lack of rumble, but I'm happy to sacrifice that for the other 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_steadster
    The thing with the wavebird is that nintendo got it right - right weight, right battery life, right size. Others have come and gone before, but have only had any 2 of the 3. Only problem with the wavebird is lack of rumble, but I'm happy to sacrifice that for the other 3.
    I agree with you, and I think the Wavebird is excellent...all I meant was that first party wireless controllers were never stopped by lack of want, but by available technology.

    Oh, and you are right, subbie, Atari did do it first, and I guess that fact just adds to my agrument. Video game companies have wanted to do wireless for ages, and now is just the first time its practical. The Atari Sticks totally blew...btw. Clunky and rarely work.

    As for your comment regarding the creator's comments, skitzo, It's pretty obvious that there's a whole lot that this fellow doesn't know. So, rather than call him an idiot, which nobody is, those who disagree with the layout are saying where they disagree, and then telling why. Are we idiots for letting it stand as it is, and not critcizing what we know to be wrong?

    There's no doubt that Nintendo has had a huuuge influence over controllers, but aren't I allowed to disagree with the layout of this chart?
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    i dont know about atari having the first wireless controller (any info on this appreciateed)
    but there were several wireless controllers prior to wavebird
    nes had ones you could buy, cant remember if they were first party tho, will research this
    cdi had a wireless controller , afaik the only system to come with a wireless remote (at least mine did)

    the nes controller was manufactured by acclaim but officially licensed by nintedo, here for photo http://www.vidgame.net/NINTENDO/Nint...h/wireless.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_steadster
    The thing with the wavebird is that nintendo got it right - right weight, right battery life, right size. Others have come and gone before, but have only had any 2 of the 3. Only problem with the wavebird is lack of rumble, but I'm happy to sacrifice that for the other 3.
    Well the rumble in the GC isnt that good either, but they could add a low-power rumble like those cellphones have.

    And a rechargable battery, could it sucks to interrupt your game to go buy some batteries.

    BTW, is ironic that the guy from the controller site doesnt relates the revo pad with the CDI remote:lol:

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