OK, you're probably right but since this is an English language forum we should refrain from using it.
Originally Posted by ave
Back on topic, if anyone can get me one of those Zemmix consoles I can make it worth your while. I've been wanting one of those since I first saw it on the old Assembler museum way back in the day.
A sad day...
today I searched through Yongsan all day, and all I found was:
- Sega Genesis (Japanese Model)
- Sega Genesis CD (Japanese Model)
- Atari Jaguar (US Version)
- Sega Saturn (US Version, sorry guys ^^)
- 3 Boxes of mostly Japanese single games (Koreans refer to them as "paks"), no packaging of course, for Genesis and SNES.
- 1 Super Komboi (the Super Famicom, SNES Korean Version that is), totally yellowish and with stickers on it, without cables but one controller. Want to know the price? Only 70.000 Won. Yes, you can buy two SNES in Original Packaging in Japan for that price. I hate it when they give you the special foreigner price...)
- 2 Super Komboi, only the console, but the shop owner didn't show up in 2 hours, so I could not ask the price.
- Oh, and I found a handful of Gameboys (American Model). They have plenty of Dreamcasts, Playstation 1s and Gamecubes, but nothing older.
I looked thoroughly all over Yongsan and asked myself around. My Korean is not that crappy, but all the guys I asked said like, "there has not been a NES (Komboi) around since years..."
All the shop owners offer WII hacking as a free service by the way. So I think, Koreans only enjoy retrogaming in that way...
I search trough Auction once a week, but I only saw one Super Komboi in half a year.
I should really try to aks some Korean kids next time. I am just afraid, they won't know what a Komboi is, because they never saw anything else than DS and PSP...
What is also quite funny: The Korean Made Handhelds, like GP32, Wiz, Canoo, you don't see them AT ALL at Yongsan, and if you ask people, they never heard of it.
To close this post, let me give a statement to the "Jap" expression. I often use it with a full stop in order to shorten Japanese. So above I could have said "jap. model". I would never dare to insult people or things with race biased expressions. We retro collectors all love Japan anyhow, I suppose :love2:
I will keep my eyes and ears open, but I think I should keep devoting myself to Japanese Gaming Stuff...
Let me add: I didn't buy anything :(
Last edited by wiegeil; 02-12-2011 at 05:13 AM.
More than likely wouldn't tell you because they don't like foreigners.
Originally Posted by wiegeil
I have never had much luck finding korean-model consoles at Yongsan, either. Sometimes they will pop up, but usually loose, in poor condition, and with an inflated price. Was this your first time digging around there? Found anything in the past??
Originally Posted by wiegeil
I've been there several times, but this was my first time really digging and asking around and scrutinizing every store I found :banghead:
But don't you guys think it is hard to find old games in other cities? There is no real place to go, right?
I may admit, going to Akihabara in Japan where you can get nearly anything you wish is not what collecting is about, but ... I feel quite alone in Korea.
Perhaps the best guess would be asking among my Korean friends to check their families and relatives to dig out stuff, but who was farsighted enough 20 years ago to even keep the original packaging (even I threw that away - as a kid that is)...
Koreans are well known for treating goods like shit. Actually, quite like a lot of westerners. Japanese are an exception really and thank God they are :nod:
Doesn't have to be a special foreigner price, it's quite possible that this particular shop owner asks similar prices from everyone interested. You have to view the market for retro stuff from a pre-ebay viewpoint, as there's not true equivalence to ebay in Korea. I've been asked anything from $10 to $150 for the same items in comparable condition (mostly online).
Originally Posted by wiegeil
Plus most stuff is genuinely rare now. You've seen the sales figures for the 80s, and everything post 1994 like Saturn is worse, because consoles practically died that year, commercially. Bring in the "treating goods like shit" issue, and there's not a whole lot left. I've bought a bunch of old video game magazines, the late 1980s - early 90s stuff goes for 20 bucks per issue.
If you want to talk about old games, don't ask "some kids", ask people in their late 20s/early 30s what they played as kids, show them pictures and ask if they remember. Most will have had Famiclones (assuming they've had anything).
If you want to effectively search for stuff, going online is the only way. English usually doesn't get one very far, plus foreigners have a hard time signing on to the useful sites, but you could find a good contact who can ask around for you if you're lucky.
Four kinds of possible fates for Korean console stuff, in my assumed order of quantity:
- Thrown away and/or broken. It's that easy, I fear by far the most consoles share that fate. Treating like shit comes into play again, but also parents who generally frown upon vain and addictive hobbies (not my opinion, theirs) like video games. A friend of mine had a Comboy as a kid because her father got it through the company, but her parents threw or gave it away because she played too much.
- Long since pillaged by foreigners, at least for everything that was located in Seoul (which should be the vast majority to begin with). There are especially some Japanese collectors with huge collections.
- With Korean collectors, who are just as hard to seize stuff from as the hardcore Japanese collectors. If a collector posts his stuff on his blog, chances are he has five units of each console he owns. The less hardcore collectors and of course people looking to liquify their collections are the best you can meet, actually. Unless you're extremely lucky, these people you can only meet online, they're not that many.
- At the family home back in the hometown. Second best case for someone seeking to buy, although some of course won't give away them for memory value, also they have only access to it when they visit their families, which can take a while. Ultimately better when their family actually is from Seoul. Also hard to find in rl.
i wonder if a link to a Korean gaming forum would be of any use? My site is quite popular with Koreans. By checking the traffic I've come across this Korean forum a few times. I'll check the traffic data for my site tonight and post any Korean links I find. They must be into retro if they are looking at my site after all.
This page contains the links that used to be the most useful to me. Of course one could go on about linking a dozen of communities, but ruliweb is by far the best, IMHO.
One great blog of an korean collector. Lot of NES Comboy game complete in box and in good condition, He even got both zelda 1 & 2 :O
Does anyone have pictures of AES Last Soldier 1 & 2 please? I'd like to see how the box art differs from the Japanese and English Neo Geo releases of the Last Blades.
I have downloaded hundreds and hundreds of pictures from there
Wow, thank you so much guys, superb links, enlightening talk :) btw Yakumo, what's YOUR site?
It's www.segagagadomain.com I was looking for the Korean links to my site but none so far this week, only a BBS from China.
I thought I'd share a few pics of my Korean game collection.
I also have a few albums here:
And maybe I can answer questions anyone has about finding games in Seoul.
Some amazing pictures of Korean games and exclusives. Just a shame they don't look after theirgoods as well as japanese do. A lot of those games are in poor condition :crying:
I see a fair few games not in the guardiana database !
could you provide some scans on our forum ?
talking about korean games, here's a pic from a japanese sega 8-bit collector (picture from smspower forum)
Last edited by cyberguile; 03-27-2011 at 08:57 AM.
Yes I plan to help out Guardiana as much as I can. I use the site a lot to check things about Korean games and other releases. I've started to scan some of my games and will submit them to guardiana I just don't know where or who to send them to. I've registered for the forums and we can continue talking there, plus I've got a few more games coming in this week, so I'll have to keep updating that picture.
[EDIT]: Also, Cyberguile, someone mentioned to me you had some Korean games as well? Would you be interested in trading at all? Or do you know anyone else who has Korean MD games?
Last edited by molotovwars; 03-27-2011 at 10:53 AM.
Feel free to create a topic in the english part of the board. Even though it seems dead nowadays, we still check new topics at least every weeks and keep on updating the database.
As for trading games, you can contact kawickboy on the guardiana forum. I'm not much in the collecting buisness anymore
edit: you can post the scans in this topic:
Last edited by cyberguile; 03-28-2011 at 07:10 AM.