WTB, WTT, WTS, A few extra Xbox Development Items.

[Paintballpsyco2369]

I recently bought 2 Raptor Emulator Cards, they both work, but I am only selling one, unless someone offers me a good deal. I am trying to sell this card, or trade it for an Xbox 360 premium. I now that is a long shot, but it is worth a try. I am also looking for anything Xbox related. I have a Recovery disk for the XDK from August 2001, I have 6 silver version games of BMX XXX, Ledgends of Wrestling 2, XGRA, ALIAS, Turok 3, and Dakar 2. A few of these games are in PAL, and I believe only 1 or 2 are NTSC. THey are up for sale or trade as well. I am looking for anything Related to Xbox Development. A Development Kit, A Debug kit, just about any kind of cable, I am looking for software, manuals, Absolutely anything for xbox development, weather it is working or broken. I am willing to trade the above stuff I mentioned or sell it for the right price. Thank you.

[Sally]

First time caller, long time listener....

What's the price on the raptors?

[Paintballpsyco2369]

Well, I don't really know what to ask for them, my only guess would be $300, I know a guy who paid $627 a while back, I don't expect to get near that much, so I am just telling people to give me offers.

[Sally]

You should check this out:
http://assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4888

[sobman]

Prices/Pics?

[Paintballpsyco2369]

I am so sorry, I completely forgot to read the rules, I thought I did on here before but I was wrong. I am sorry and there is nop excuse at all for this behavior of mine. I sincerly appologize. As far as prices go, For the card I guess around $300, and for the Silver Version disks, around $20 each. All these prices are negotioable, and for the recovery disk, I will sell it if the price is right, but I really don't know what to ask for it. So I will leave it as a trade. I have tried on other sites, and I can't for the love of God figure out how ot use imageshack to host photos, so if you want some pic, e-mail me at Johnh1766@aol.com, and I will e-mail you the pics. THanks for looking, and again I apologize abotu the rule thing.

[Pikkon]

Hey Paintballpsyco2369,just use photobucket to host pics.

[Paintballpsyco2369]

Ok, here it goes, the pics of the card are a bit out of focus, so if you want better ones, I will try to take some later, I need new batteries first. I have a pic of most of the disks from the guy I bouight them from on ebay, so I will post that one, untill I get new batteries, then I will post all pics of disks. I don't have enought time to do the pics right now, I will have to do them a bit later. SO.... just keep e-mail requests. Thaks again everyone for looking.

[dhau]

One was sold on eBay two days ago for 50 US$

[cdoty]

Here's one that sold for $70.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Raptor-DVD-Emulat...ayphotohosting

[Sally]

I guess i'll throw out an offer of 70+shipping

[Paintballpsyco2369]

Sorry no deal.

[Sally]

I guess this is as good a place to discuss the raptor emulators as any... so for those of you who don't know... This isn't a flame, it's more of a history lesson...

Why they sell for so little:
Raptor's can only be connected to Dev kits, not debugs. That limits your potential market to about 0.01% of the modded xbox community, even then you have to subtract the people who already have one. From there, the raptors are only useful if you plan on stamping your discs. They were ment to test out finished code on the different xbox dvd drives (plus error handeling, etc). So from a functionality stand point, it's only usable by people who have dev kits (again, not debugs) and want to stamp their homebrew (a pointless endevor, as you don't have the means to sign the code). So that leaves just the collectors, and even then very few know what the raptor is. That's why they usually sell for so cheap.

Now to price out your individual unit:
If it's complete in the box with the cable, hard drive, card, and all of the documents it's probably worth about $500. If you just have the cable hard drive and card, you're looking at probably $300-350. If you're missing either the hard drive or the cable you're in trouble. I'm not sure if the hard drive has special firmware, but assuming it doesn't it would cost an additional $100 to replace. So if you just have the card and cable you're looking at about $150. If you're missing the cable, you're really in trouble. According to microsoft, the cable is proprietary and is not a standard SCSI connection (i'm hoping that OldEngineer can varify this for me, as i've never tried using anything but the included cable). So if all you have is the card, you really can't use it. It would only be worth about $50, and that's just because it's an interesting conversation piece.

If you tell me how complete your card is, i'll make an offer accordingly.

Maybe i should have put this in the wiki...

[Paintballpsyco2369]

Well, it uses a standard ide cable for the hd, and the hd has no special firmware or anything on it, it is simply any onle hd that u want to use, formatted under windows. I fyou rea the help part of the Xbox SDK, it tells you how to install it, an dit shows screen shots of the installer, and it saying that the hd is only about 20 gigs. THere fore no special stuff ofr the hd. I have a cable package on the way to me that I am pretty sure has the scsi cable in it. I am also pretty sure the card and dev kit can communicate good with any normal (male to male I believe) 50 pin scsi cable. I have a card that has the ide cable. I know the cable package that should be here any day now, has a ton of cables for xbox developing, and I know for a fact it has a recovery disk in it, I think it has the computer side software in it as well, It has some cable to convert usb to xbox, and a developers memory card (probably a normal one, but those or the sellers words) So currently I have 2 cards, one with a ide cable. I should have the scsi cable for the development kit soon. Is anyone still interested?:nod:

[Topic Archive]

i'm hoping that OldEngineer can varify this for me, as i've never tried using anything but the included cable

1-It uses a standard 50 pin SCSI cable.

2-It uses a standard HDD*, although you never need to connect a HDD to it in reality! (official kit has 40gb Maxtor HDD supplied)

3-It uses a standard IDE cable if you do feel that way inclined.

[mairsil]

To the best of my knowledge, the "cable kits" only include the disk and AV cables. I would be very surprised if it came with an IDE or SCSI cable.

[Topic Archive]

To the best of my knowledge, the "cable kits" only include the disk and AV cables. I would be very surprised if it came with an IDE or SCSI cable.

Thats true of the Aug'01 AV cable upgrade kit.

...To be fair though, there are a few different 'versions' of the cable kits, some official, some cobbled together!

...Officially the IDE and SCSI cable's merely came supplied 'loose' in bags.

[Pikkon]

If you hook up the Serial Kd And Scsi to a debug kit will it act the
the same as a dev kit.Will it work with the Raptor emulator card.
Im pretty sure it will work,just want to know for sure.

[Topic Archive]

If you hook up the Serial Kd And Scsi to a debug kit will it act the
the same as a dev kit.Will it work with the Raptor emulator card.
Im pretty sure it will work,just want to know for sure.

Yep, if you have some 'loose' interface boards, plug 'em in to your Debug Kit and your good to go. :thumbsup:

[atomiX]

I don't want to crap either but only offering you insight. These cards really aren't selling for that much at this time. Xbox development is at its end and the cards are becoming more and more frequent on the dev market. Just recently, I bought 5 of these cards in bulk.

And yes, any HD will work and I did hear from others that any 50-pin M/M SCSI cable will work with it. The card is basically an IDE controller (for the HD) with an emulation interface for connecting to the DEV kit.