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[cahaz]

i'm not here to point anyone.

I decided to make this thread, because i think we need to talk about it. I know some members (that i won't name) that started to lurk because they were tired of what was going on. i know people who thought of quitting for the same reasons.

i know i won't get new friends with that thread, but i think this was needed, and some members or ex-memebers even pushed me (pollitly) to do it.

I looked over the last hot threads of the week, about what arrived and all, and i heard many people talking about it, even members that aren'tposting anymore, because of the problem. Forums seems to go downhill. i mean, everytime you try to post your point of view, your opinion, you get messages that are bashing it. i know you can have other opinions, that you can argue about yours and all, but opinions doesn't seem to be respected anymore. some members doesn't post anymore because they are scared to say their opinions on this forum, litterally.

You cannot defend or criticize a compagny without being labeled fan boy either anymore, while some members get really fanboyish, bashing everything a compagny does and protect everything their loved one do. some bash consoles for absolutly no reasons, they're telling how bad something is, but most of time never really got into it.

You cannot criticize anyting without being criticized yourself, you cannot tell something is disapointing or anything, criticizing is something wrong, it seems.

Where's that proffesionalism? where's the respect of everything? that friendly environement that was trolling and spaming free? you certainly know what i'm talking about, and i hope my message will open the eyes of some members. i wish everything could return as it was before.

some people forgot that opinions aren't facts, and forgot that opinions are what they are, personal thoughts. Neutralism is also questionnable, some tend to bash anything labeled by a specific compagny (or even member), and some are even knowing it, and tell it to everyone who would like to hear it.

someone even told me the forums is going on the gamefaq way, slowly but certainly.

what's going on, mates?

Peace.

cahaz _

[WolverineDK]

cahaz: You said it man, those words are quite true. And i try hard to be polite with all, and i still hope when i PMed koolkid13 he does not think i am a stupid cunt, when i asked about something. Since it was not an insult on him, at all. And i hope he has not put me on ignore here on the forum.

And i have been many times been in a kinda way, being either teased very hard, or for that matter ridiculed , because of my knowledge. And i don´t think that is very cool.

And yes at some few post i have been in a way fanboyish, and i have apologised at the same time, since my fanboyism, is not a noobish fanboyism, just a love of many things.

Peace

WolverineDK

aka Martin Kirchoff Rasmussen.

[Fabrizo]

While as I havn't been posting here for that long of time (comparably to certain members like cahaz), I have been watching these boards for years, and I do agree about this 'fanboy' and 'lets bash all products made by company Z' has become far more promenent as of late. I actualy to some degree expected this to happen, as I remember all to well how bad it got durring the beggining years of the current generation.

I personaly feel that all three console makers have their short commings, but they all of their good points to. At one point I was a Sega 'fanboy', and despised Sony, but once I overcame it and started to realise how arrogant it was of me to do such a thing I began to enjoy games much more as I wasn't constantly trying to compare products.

In the end I realised that games are just meant to be entertainment, and if you find a product to lack such a quality then why bother thinking about it? I don't like D&D or Magic cards, but I don't spend all day saying how much I hate them or that everyone who does is my enemy. And I think more people should do the same and just enjoy what they enjoy, and leave those that have different tastes or opinions to their own endevors. At the very lest this helps keep everyone happy and the mood light.

[Topic Archive]

My views are similar to what Fabrizo just said and what I'm sure cahaz was explaining...

Game consoles and the like allow me to play games, games as in entertainment, nothing more nothing less, just like watching the T.V or listening to music, I can take it or leave it.

...I don't give a toss about who's best as I've never found a system that allows me to play EVERY game that I've always wanted to play. In a few cases I've ended up buying a system purely to play one game! ...But hey that's entertainment!

...No system is the 'best' just enjoy what you have.

...I only use this forum for 'fun' if the 'fun' stops I would stop using it, it's by far the best of it's kind on the net so I hope the 'fun' continues!

[Johnny]

Great topic cahaz. Hope this is a way to stop people criticizing everything, and remember what we all like: Games.

[Taemos]

I agree, cahaz. It's a bit much when you can't speak your mind (politely) without being harassed. I hope this thread does something about it. The fanboy-ish attitudes I've seen are getting pretty tired, too.

[Mark30001]

I agree to everybody. I will always be here, heck, this forum is great for a lot of things!

Not just peace, but world peace...

[XerdoPwerko]

I'm a fanboy of all videogames, actually. I do complain about the PS2 ocasionally, but I used to own one and have bought several good games for it.
I generally try to be as civil as possible - but if I've said or done anything to offend anybody, I apologise. I do, however, like to freely express my opinion and beliefs, so if any time I do so too vehemently, let me know, please.
I have felt some tension in the forums lately, to tell the truth; but then again, I've been feeling tension everywhere lately. I hope things can get better - and I guess I'll do all I can to help.

Suggestions?

[Alien Workshop]

I think it started with the shift from phpBB to vbulletin. The forum started getting more traffic, and we started getting more members. I remember when the "Most users ever online" thing was only listed in the twenties (on the phpBB forum), and now its 574! That's insane. When I first joined ASSEMbler, there were only four forums: General Discussion, Off Topic, For Sale, and Feedback. I miss those days :[ Also, I'm not going to name any names, but some of our newer members seem to be spamming a lot, making useless posts, and making double or triple posts. I agree with cahaz, and I was going to make a similar thread myself.

The forums are going downhill :[

[Taemos]

Also, I'm not going to name any names, but some of our newer members seem to be spamming a lot, making useless posts, and making double or triple posts. I agree with cahaz, and I was going to make a similar thread myself. [

I think I've seen this, too, but it's not as bad as it could be.

[Divine Evolution]

Yeah, I find myself only visiting maybe once a week.
I first came to these forums on their former ezBoard counterparts and loved it because it was full of people discovering and discussing the video game past.
Honestly the current generation of gaming doesn't hold my interest and this new generation that's unfolding certainly doesn't interest me - consequently the Company X vs. Company Y arguments certainly don't interest me either.
I'll probably continue to visit no matter how bad these boards get but I doubt I'll be saying much.
That is not to say that's how I want this to end. Quite the contrary, I'd love to dwell on video game history and unlock new secrets of these awesome machines past but I guess there's only so much left to discover.
~Krelian

P.S.: And you know what else I'd like to see? I'd like to see all the former pages about old rare stuff from the RoarVGM Assembler site revived. I think that would help attract the right kind of people again.

[Mark30001]

I have to agree with Divine Evolution!!

[XerdoPwerko]

P.S.: And you know what else I'd like to see? I'd like to see all the former pages about old rare stuff from the RoarVGM Assembler site revived. I think that would help attract the right kind of people again.

Those are what brought me here in the first place - the info on the BSX, some transparent Galaxy Fraulein figurines Assembler had, the PC Engine GT that Assembler... well, disassembled - and then about a year or so later, I finally decided to get into the forums.

I don't know if there are right kinds or wrong kinds of people, though - I guess it's not really about being new here - but about a sense of civility that we can all have, being responsible adults.

[Mark30001]

being responsible adults.

...and late teens! :-D

[The VGM]

I know part of this is my fault with the CS Source thread, and I agree that got out of hand. Sorry all for that, and Mr Casual I got no problems with you dude, I hope MGS3:S does come out for Xbox so you can enjoy online too.

I also know some of my posts have been anti-xbox 360. Sorry for those aswell.

[Mark30001]

I must confess as well. I think I was also to blame when I made my 100 posts thread.

I'm sorry you guys...

[Mr. Casual]

I know part of this is my fault with the CS Source thread, and I agree that got out of hand. Sorry all for that, and Mr Casual I got no problems with you dude, I hope MGS3:S does come out for Xbox so you can enjoy online too.

I also know some of my posts have been anti-xbox 360. Sorry for those aswell.

No problem. I'm sorry for all the crap I have been posting lately. Lets hope this is a new beginning for the boards.

Great topic, Cahaz!

[Taemos]

I must confess as well. I think I was also to blame when I made my 100 posts thread.

I'm sorry you guys...

Everyone makes those, except it's usually for 1,000 :).

I do miss the old pages. That's what got me coming here - development/unreleased hardware. Basically all I see now is Xbox 360 vs. Playstation 3 garbage. I'll admit to not liking certain companies, but it's nothing to get into a fight over. Like others have said, it's all about the games.

[Evangelion-01]

I was also thinking about this and i think i even told gsl about it, and i am sure that you WolverineDK think i was ridiculing you , but i just want to let you know that i was just kidding :).

[WolverineDK]

Evangelion-01: You have for the first time almost said an apology, and i accept it. But others has done it too. And it has pissed me off many a times. Since if you have experienced things like me in the childhood, being bullied by almost every one for five years. And experienced lynching from 500 +pupils/students that was only saved by the school bell , where my sister and i stood back to back.

And i was hated by all except avery few people (they needed a person to bullie) on that school. Then you would know why i hate being ridiculed and harrassed, and i ever see a person being bullied/ etc. ever again, i would protect the fellow and smack the living shit out of the persons. Even if they have a fuckload of cousins. Since i am tired being a person who is afraid.

And i try hard to be a good person, and i am NOT violent. but everyone has a limit.

I even try to be a fair and square person.

So to every one on this forum, even the moderators, if i am 100 % right in my views and knowledge. Don´t fuck with me then.

But i am always openminded and fight against any kinds of injustice. To all.

And when i get corrected in a thing , i am telling about. And my information is wrong, then i will accept it.

And i was right, in the thing about the Black Death. But i was ridiculed, since i knew what i was talking about, although i am not a doctor or for that matter a scientist. But get the drift.

try to search for the Jante Law.

that is the most common used law amongst people.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/nordic-faq.../section-5.html
this is in norwegian translated to english.

1.Du skal ikke tro at du *er* noe.
Thou shalt not presume that thou art anyone [important].
2. Du skal ikke tro at du er like saa meget som *oss*.
Thou shalt not presume that thou art as good as us.
3. Du skal ikke tro at du er klokere en *oss*.
Thou shalt not presume that thou art any wiser than us.
4. Du skal ikke innbille deg du er bedre enn *oss*.
Thou shalt never indulge in the conceit of imagining that thou art
better than us.
5. Du skal ikke tro du vet mere enn *oss*.
Thou shalt not presume that thou art more knowledgeable than us.
6. Du skal ikke tro du er mere enn *oss*.
Thou shalt not presume that thou art more than us [in any way].
7. Du skal ikke tro at *du* duger til noe.
Thou shalt not presume that that thou art going to amount to
anything.
8. Du skal ikke le av *oss*.
Thou art not entitled to laugh at us.
9. Du skal ikke tro at noen bryr seg om *deg*.
Thou shalt never imagine that anyone cares about thee.
10. Du skal ikke tro at du kan lære *oss* noe.
Thou shalt not suppose that thou can teach us anything.

this is the danish version and xerdopwerko , if you got a digital danish/english dictionary you can see tro = think/believe etc. presume.

1. Du skal ikke tro, at du er lige så meget som os.
2. Du skal ikke tro, at du er klogere end os.
3. Du skal ikke bilde dig ind, at du er bedre end os.
4. Du skal ikke tro, at du ved mere end os.
5. Du skal ikke tro, at du er mere end os.
6. Du skal ikke tro, at du duer til noget.
7. Du skal ikke le ad os.
8. Du skal ikke tro, at nogen bryder sig om dig.
9. Du skal ikke tro, at du kan lære os noget
10. i just want to say i use the anti version of that law.

Axel Sandemose was just the person who put a name on the law, and he was a danish writer who made a book called "A Fugitive Crosses His Path" (en flygtning krydser sit spor)

http://www.sandemose.dk/

or just search for the name .