best config:
XDK 5933 internal ver
debug XBOX DVT6 or DVT4
DVD EMU card
for another about bios hack. you must get one AlphaI/II
best config:
XDK 5933 internal ver
debug XBOX DVT6 or DVT4
DVD EMU card
for another about bios hack. you must get one AlphaI/II
thx but why alpha for hacking xbox?
Thx ricky but what's DVT6 comparing to DVT4?
Debug? but the debug is a green crystal and all of you said for DVT4 is a simple crystal with "development kit" wrote on. no?
I don't understand.
Originally Posted by haliway
Huh?
...All I could work out was the first bit of your question/statement, DVT6 = Ver 1.0 retail, hope that helps.
Thx for your answer. I still don't understand the answer of Ricky speaking about Green debug kit. I thought DVT6 is the white crystal dev kit and not the green Debug kit
...99.99999% of 'green' Debug Kit's and 'crystal' Development Kit's are DVT4.
DVT6 = Ver 1.0 retail
ok thx so dvt is just a version for all elements ok i understand now
sorry to disturb you again but what's the real difference between a debug green machine and dev machine. I can buy a debug green kit for 300$ (is it expensive?)
How can i verify the version of it? DVTx?
Thx for help
Here we go!
The only real difference between a debug and a dev kit is the cool extra ports on the back of the dev. The ports are a scsi connector (non standard, i believe. But i'm not absolutely sure) to connect to the dvd emulator card, and a serial port for kernel level debugging.
The only thing the scsi connector is for is the DVD emulator, so unless you have one or are planning to get one, don't worry about it.
The serial port is for kernel level debugging, if you don't know what that is, you don't need it. It would take me far too long to explain otherwise.
The dev and debugs run exactly the same hardware, exactly the same software, and are really the same machine. If you're looking into buying a debug for programming, the only other things you'll need are the SDK and Visual Studio .net.
The only reason you would ever need a dev kit is if you're a collector or a serious hardcore programmer.
$300 is about the going rate these days for debug kits. But a word of warning, if the sticker on the bottom is broken, be absolutely sure that it's a real debug. It's patheticly simple to make a fake debug using either Phoenix bios loader or a mod chip. Honestly, i don't trust black debug boxes unless you can absolutely verify the source and the stickers are intact. As a side note, there have been rumors floating around of debug cases put on stock xbox internals, but i've yet to see one of these.
By MS or scammers?
For the latter, yeah, they exist alright. I've seen at least one on Xbox-Scene that was scammed with a retail box in debug case. The people that fall into that trap are just plain naive and don't do their research.
Ok but naive or not how can i verify it?
OK so for the best development i can do, i need:
XDK 5933 + recovery disk 5933
DVT4 or 6 version of a crystal dev xbox
raptor DVD emulation card V2
no ?
IS IT POSSIBLE TO TRANSFORM A RETAIL XBOX IN DEBUG OR DEV XBOX?
Last edited by haliway; 12-08-2005 at 05:33 AM.
sort of.. it wont be the exact thing but realy close to, this is btw the way I do it.
what you need:
* a mod chip and geux debug bios (I think it was called so, can check on my xbox tonight)
* XDK
can't provide you with none of them because that is not fully legal
you could probably find more info on how to install it at xbox-scene.
the largest differens (that I know of) is that your retail only have 64MB of ram, if you compare it to a Debug Kit that is. if you compare it to the dev ver. then your missing some other fancy stuff.
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A very good way is by checking the motherboard itself. Retail motherboards have an MCPX X3 southbridge while the debug/dev motherboards have an MCPX X2. And as babu said, most debug/dev motherboards have 128MB of RAM while retail has 64MB. You can always upgrade the RAM on retail hardware that isn't v1.6 so checking the RAM isn't a sure thing.
Just a few notes DVT6 == retail. Dev and Debug kits are DVT4. The early models are DVT3 and they're usually black. The DVT1 are Alpha 1 towere, the DVT2 are Alpha 2 Towers.
Here's how to convert retail to debug. It'll work for most things you'll want to do, but you might run into issues with the games that use more memory.
http://www.hydras-world.com/index.ph...xretailtodebug
Any dev/debug released outside of microsoft should have a sticker on the bottom that says debug kit on it. If that sticker is broken I wouldn't buy it. 99.9989989983839 percent of green Debug kits are DVT4. The rest were built for a specific purpose, such as testing the controllers, or doing Live! testing. There probably aren't more than a few dozen of these out there. Microsoft internal debugs could be almost anything, as they tended to peice together whatever they needed out of spare parts. I've definately seen some "franken-xboxes" that have come out of there.
To sum it all up, if the case says debug, the stickers aren't broken, and you have a screenshot of the launcher, then it's probably legit. If they won't give you a screenshot for some reason, i'd be really suspisious as you can get a shot with the click of a mouse over a network.
The leap from dvt4 was large enough to encompass/surpass dvt5 hence dvt6 resulted.
I always just tell people that microsoft can't do math... 4 + 1 = 6??? It would explain a lot.
Isn't that what Microsoft calls "New Math" :)
But i can't get port that have a DEV xbox comparing to the retail version so it's really better to have a dev xbox.Here's how to convert retail to debug. It'll work for most things you'll want to do, but you might run into issues with the games that use more memory.
http://www.hydras-world.com/index.p...oxretailtodebug
But can i install the xdk on a retail? converting in debug or just having a modchip?
Huh?
Yes, as long as you are running a debug bios. That can be done with a modchip, software exploits or by flashing the TSOP (if you know what that is).
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