Fukushima Explosion Was Concealed by Japanese Government Until Right Before It Happen

[angelwolf71885]

http://gizmodo.com/5935356/fukushima...re-it-happened

isn't this so lovely gotta love the Japanese government

[Yakumo]

Governments are full of shit and ran by idiots no matter what country you look at. Not that I'm defending the Japanese government, oh no. They're a bunch of fuckwits no matter what way you look at them. Still, I doubt making it public 3 hours earlier would have change anything.

[APE]

Governments are full of shit and ran by idiots no matter what country you look at. Not that I'm defending the Japanese government, oh no. They're a bunch of fuckwits no matter what way you look at them. Still, I doubt making it public 3 hours earlier would have change anything.

3 hours more worth of panic for the price of 1.

[angelwolf71885]

also kinda hard to evacuate a city in 1-2 hrs 5 hrs might of been possable

[GaijinPunch]

The worry wasn't so much as the immediate surrounding as it was the panic it might have caused Tokyo. That is something to think about. I'm not saying it was the right call, but the country in a frenzy is a bad scenario that was to be avoided at all costs. It was also still up in the air whether the explosion was going to lead to partial or full melt down.

But yeah, what Yakumo said. Just about everyone is a fucking idiot.

[ave]

I don't know if Tokyo would have gone frenzy just because they would would have kept people up to date. This way there were most likely people who haven't been evacuated in time to prevent them from unnecessary exposure to radiation. That's what the sovjets did in 1986, just in a smaller scale (they wanted to cover it up until it became apparent that it's too big of a deal - DAYS after the incident) - no good.

[GaijinPunch]

I don't know if Tokyo would have gone frenzy just because they would would have kept people up to date.

I do, and the answer is "yes" they would have. Japan has a worry wart culture. A common cold warrants a trip to the doctor for many (most) Japanese. It is hard to say with any degree exactly how much radiation leakage could have been expected. You basically say you think it's going to melt down or not. The outcome until things are certain is obvious to someone that has spent any amount of time here.

Official docs state the reason they kept it under wraps was specifically b/c of the mayhem which would have occurred in Tokyo.

[angelwolf71885]

well radiation levels ARE elevated in Tokyo so even Tokyo should be a ghost town right now
ANY elevated radiation is BAD period

if they were worried about a meltdown a 200km evacuation zone should of been erected

[Bad_Ad84]

ANY elevated radiation is BAD period

Not true. Some places have naturally higher radiation levels than japan does after this.

For some reading:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...444059332.html


In short, if you live in Denver - you are getting more radiation and no one is freaking the fucking out there.

[angelwolf71885]

except we are talking about heavy element radiation from a refined and unnatural source and fine particle radiation from graphite spread from the exposhion
this isn't like after Hiroshima or Nagasaki where taking off 3-6 feet of top soil solves the issue
this is worse the chyornobial/pripiet

[Bad_Ad84]

Most of the stuff that leaked had a short half life, its nothing like Chernobyl (especially not WORSE).

curium-242 - 167 days
Iodine-131 - 8 days

Only long one is caesium-137, which is 30 years. But that depends where it lands etc.

Also, you can't put together a proper sentence in pretty much every post - so its hard to take you seriously.

[angelwolf71885]

thats not the only stuff that was relised parts of the spent fuel rods were spewed also theres alot more isotopes then just 3 that are affecting the area
and the fuel rod cooling pit is still open air not enclosed but they have it rather full of water but still spewing radiation
more people lived in the dense area around the plaint
Chernobyl was mostly open country/woods

fukishima wont be inhabitable for many many decades

the united states recommended something like a 200km evac zone but still only a 50km evac zone very sad

your receiving more radiation then you would or a normal basis it just like those airport body scanners
they say its only radiation equivalent to 11 mins in the air
yah BUT its NOT meant to be received in less then 5 seconds

[GaijinPunch]

well radiation levels ARE elevated in Tokyo so even Tokyo should be a ghost town right now
ANY elevated radiation is BAD period

Not true. Still lower than many other highly populated cities in the world.

except we are talking about heavy element radiation from a refined and unnatural source and fine particle radiation from graphite spread from the exposhion

No we aren't. You are... falsely.

Only long one is caesium-137, which is 30 years. But that depends where it lands etc.

Also being heavier makes it harder to travel. The biological half-life of caesium-137 is only 70 days and can be shortened to 30 days if you know you have it. I believe it takes the same cell-space as potassium.

Strontium is the bad one. It shares the same cell-space as calcium in the bones. Yikes.

The biological half life of Strontium-90 in Humans has variously been reported as from 14 to 600 days[4][5], 1000 days[6], 18 years[7], 30 years[8] and finally at an upper limit, 49 years[9]. The wide ranging published biological half life figures are explained by the isotopes complex metabolism within the body, but by averaging over all excretion paths the biological half life is about 18 years.[10]

source

[angelwolf71885]

http://gizmodo.com/5936706/fukushima...s-of-radiation

record levels of radiation in fish sure you could chalk this up to the massive radioactive water dumping going on
but its still not a good sign of anything and proves there are much more heavy elements/isotopes around then you are accepting
being spoon fed by the Japanese government lets not forget the astronomical levels found in vegetables and meets

[itchy]

They just wanted to revive their economy.
;)

[GaijinPunch]

http://gizmodo.com/5936706/fukushima...s-of-radiation

record levels of radiation in fish sure you could chalk this up to the massive radioactive water dumping going on
but its still not a good sign of anything and proves there are much more heavy elements/isotopes around then you are accepting
being spoon fed by the Japanese government lets not forget the astronomical levels found in vegetables and meets

You said Tokyo. Not the water directly next to the melt down. Slight difference.

[angelwolf71885]

Tokyo should be evacuated for the air spread of radiation
but it was more about the radiation is affecting the primary food supply
and that heaver elements are in play
even if it was a element that only lasted 70 days this should of all been over about 4 months after the exposhion
but its NOT

[GaijinPunch]

Please go sell crazy elsewhere... you could easily be an intern on Fox News.

[Vosse]

So 3 hours would not have given people slightly more time to get away from the danger zone?
Or, it wouldn't have mattered and they'd rather not risk sending Tokyo into a frenzy basically?


Here in Oregon, a dock from Japan washed up with a dog on it a few months ago. I think they are still trying to get rid of it , not sure what happened to the dog.

[APE]

Tokyo should be evacuated for the air spread of radiation
but it was more about the radiation is affecting the primary food supply
and that heaver elements are in play
even if it was a element that only lasted 70 days this should of all been over about 4 months after the exposhion
but its NOT

You get a higher dose of radiation living in Denver than you do in Tokyo right now.