PS2 SDK DVD - legit or bootleg?

[pool7]

I was about to put this up in the Marketplace, but thought I ask first, to avoid getting banned or something :P

I got this at eBay and it seems legit to me, but hope someone can confirm.

The disc is a professionally printed DVD-R. The print is not a sticker or paper, but printed directly on top of the disc.
The printing is of great quality, indicating it's most likely original.
Why would Sony send DVD-R instead of pressed-disc?
They probably didn't see a big-enough number of companies buying the disc (since they could just download it from the licensee site), so they just went with the cheap option: burn to printed DVD-R on demand.

Sorry for the crappy pics; my cellphone sucks and I don't have a better cam.

[unclejun]

I would say legit, probably faster/easier/cheaper to burn new sdk releases than having them pressed, atleast after the mid-nineties.
One of the PS2 SDK version I know of came on a DVD-RAM, it was legit for sure.
That being said, are you sure you want to sell it?
Why not releasing it instead?

[GENERiC]

It could be legit. The site written on disc was real: http://web.archive.org/web/200206052...w.ps2-pro.com/ Very interesting thing.

[pool7]

Indeed the site was real, and I wouldn't be surprised if it still is, though now over vpn or something similar for licensees only.

As for releasing it, I'd gladly do so, but first I'd like to try and get back some of the money I've spent on it. It may not be much to other people, but it was quite a number for me.

EDIT: Maybe I'll trade it instead of selling, and then release it.

[GENERiC]

AFAIK the PS2 Developer Network was moved into the SCE DevNet.

https://ps2.scedev.net/

[drewmerc]

it does look like the one i had (now lost to time) tho mine was in one of the blue half hight sony promo? dvd cases (no cover)
i remember looking at it in dvd decrypter and being surprised it was not burned on a sony dvd

[GENERiC]

Isn't the newest leaked version(3.0.2) from July 2004?

[unclejun]

Sorry I was joking and forgot the smiley...I don't have any saying in what you should or shouldn't do with your belongings :)
If you trade it though, releasing it after the trade wouldn't be fair.

Does it have a product number DTL-Sxxxxx?If not on the disc, maybe in a readme file?
Would you list the contents of the disc?

[pool7]

No worries, I had thought about releasing it anyway :)

If I sell it or trade it, I would specify that I plan on releasing it as part of the sale/trade; else it would be kind of like stabbing the buyer in the back (or pocket).
Maybe a fundraiser? Though I doubt I'd get approval from the board's staff, lol.

It doesn't have a product number in the likes of DTL-S on the disc itself, but I forgot to check that in the readme.
It is version 3.0.3, that I do remember.

I'll post the file/folder list as well as hashes once I get home.
Funny thing is: the contents of the disc are exe installers for Windows. Once installed, it can be copied to a GNU/Linux box (doesn't seem to add anything but uninstall info to the registry), but it requires Windows at least to install once. Crazy, huh?
What were they thinking? (I mean, Sony recommends Red Hat 6.2 for development, and the included compiler binaries are GNU/Linux only AFAIR.

Contrary to the leaked version, this one is complete (ie. With training videos and other stuff)

[Teancum]

What's something like this go for?

[unclejun]

At that point in time most/all the developers were probably using SNSystems compiler in Windows systems I would guess.
The DVD-RAM (from 2001 iirc) I mentioned also was for Windows only, all the extra stuff on it is for Windows as well (vram capture/audio and video converters/T15000 utilities/video of the dev conferences (in realvideo format)/and pdfs, lots and lots of them...)

[pool7]

@teancum
I've been trying to get these for a long time, and saw them on ebay just recently. It was an auction starting at 0.99.
It ended at over £80 (some USD 130 according to eBay's exchange rate).

@unclejun
Yeah, I thought so. However if they provided the files for people to just copy/paste to the C drive, that would have worked for both Windows and GNU/Linux devs. Instead they forced GNU/Linux devs to install on a Windows PC, then copy the installed files to the GNU/Linux box.
Not a big deal, though.

[pool7]

DISCLAIMER: All the information provided below (and above) is for educational and preservation purposes!!!

Here's the disc information (disc label and files/folders); first the files that are in the root of the disc, then the ones in the Installers folder:

Disc Label: DevkitUpdate152


root
autorun.inf
26 bytes (26 bytes)
CRC32: FA9025A9
MD5: A3B631A8560348EB228281513768D52C
SHA-1: ECF4E2B762D4C4956D73F01B90858AD87870BEDD


menu.exe
400 KB (409662 bytes)
CRC32: 39B07241
MD5: 433EAD500FE72E35621DDA20C4411347
SHA-1: 4755E9AC9C2E26D8460FA363077C26D1CA1C80EF




Installers
AdbeRdr70_enu_full.exe
19.8 MB (20798256 bytes)
CRC32: BE3A5147
MD5: DD62DDEF4F53A8A9E426C187C9267E6D
SHA-1: BF26287A7083389F451E82A89A158A462E2E2FE2


Docs&TrainingSetup.exe
597 MB (626147040 bytes)
CRC32: 49D06771
MD5: 977B6B87D7122BE6E28BB651618B4EA8
SHA-1: 0588A90116B75C762FEB40B572376F35285115F3


ExtraLibsSetup.exe
11.1 MB (11743691 bytes)
CRC32: C2E61426
MD5: 9AAE2F3B253044A5E4360AB3962E5AAB
SHA-1: 8BC761046DAA4D0C720388BBE36A4202141E5697


installAll.exe
149 KB (153158 bytes)
CRC32: CA4C5C4A
MD5: BB7F8C1D229802B4082C2F6D9FF2BF28
SHA-1: 748F5AA6622235D773DBCAFD17B69C4A10F14AAE


RTLibs&ToolchainSetup.exe
260 MB (272741993 bytes)
CRC32: C6CB9CDA
MD5: 38E564DB0D2376EBB60E1FDE26569221
SHA-1: E7FB9A19AE82CF4DE33498BFEB82DD9A22EE0F66


SoftwareToolsSetup.exe
46.3 MB (48606349 bytes)
CRC32: C261FA42
MD5: B75D02D298244B210650137987AA7314
SHA-1: 9C15C63C109F213CE241F120003E380D1B32074A

[pool7]

Also, here's some additional information provided during installation (thought it would be easier to read if it was in a separate post):

Welcome to the PS2 SDK menu!


To install ALL available material please click 'FULL INSTALL'.


If you would like more control, please click the 'Install' button to launch the installer for the item(s) you are interested in. These are fully customisable - so you can choose exactly which components you require.


Clicking each label will provide you with a brief description of the material on offer.

Docs and Training Material
-------------------------------------------
The following material is available in this installer...
- Conference Presentations
- Hardware Manuals
- Intro to PS2 Programming
- PS2-Pro Starting Guides
- SCEE PS2 Fundamentals
- TRC Package
- Virtual Training Lessons

Extra Libraries
-----------------------
The following material is available in this installer...
- Demo Disc SDK
- Shell System Package

Runtime Libraries and Toolchain
---------------------------------------------------
The following material is available in this installer...
- EE Toolchain
- EENet Library
- EyeToy® Vision Library
- HTTPS Library
- IOP Toolchain
- Libcheck Library
- Poweroff Processing Libraries
- Runtime Libraries 3.0.3
- Runtime Library Docs
- Sample Code
- Sample Data
- SIF DMA Package
- USB PSP™ Communications Library

Software Tools
------------------------
The following material is available in this installer...
- HDD Checker
- MultiStream Package
- Network Analysis Suite
- Performance Analysis Package
- QA Tool
- Sulpha Sound Utility
- VCL
- VRAMSnap
- VUEdit
- YNCF Tool

[pool7]

By the way, no DTL-S number in the readme either.

[unclejun]

I'm tempted to ask you the version number of some of the utilities:
-Performance Analysis
-QA Tool
-VRAMSnap

[pool7]

Here you go:
-PA v1.1
-QA Tool v2.4
-VRAMSnap 1.0

[unclejun]

Thanks.
The DVD-RAM I talked about earlier is actually from 2004 (SDK3.02), so I guess most of the stuff on your disc are the same.
The HDD checker is missing though...

Are the Conference Presentations .pdf files only or pdf and videos?
Any interesting stuff from after 2003 (SCEA psu, SCEE Devcon, SCEE psu, SCEI sds)?
By interesting, I mean anything related to the hdd, psbbn or performance analyzer?

[pool7]

Yes, being a minor revision I'm sure there's not much difference with the 3.02 version.

The Conference Presentations are mostly PDF files, and some PPT/PPS; no videos.
Regarding Conference Presentations, post-2003 there's only the Tools & Middleware Expo 2004 (covering Application Development Using the Eyetoy USB Camera for PS2 and PlayStation 2 Programming Tool LT)... the rest is 1999 through 2003.