I'm getting no where and I'm still young :/

[HEX1GON]

I feel that no where is prepared to give me a chance, I've handed in a lot of resumes, in person and in online applications... I still get declined.
I can't go through anywhere as I'm 19 so I'm between being able to get help, it's either 18 or 21 other than that I still have to be supported by parents. I know I have a whole life of being independent, but I don't want to put pressure on my parents any more, I need to get out there. Of course with all this happening my emotions are getting worse, I can't have any hopes any more as they always get shut down, everyone who is well off I know is not bothering to help me, I've asked 3 each 3 times and still nothing, so I really do feel like a failure at this point... I haven't been able to graduate any courses I do as the teachers just don't have the energy to teach me (It wasn't just me, the whole department is being shutdown)...

So I've tried going to employment agencies and I'm not eligible for them to help me... So I'm really stuck for ideas, I just don't have the emotional strength any more and I'm only 19... it's just getting worse and worse.
Any advice?

[omp]

It is bloody tough every where mate.

When I left high school, it was at the end of "the recession we had to have" (remember Paul Keating?) Getting a job was bloody hard and when you got one you stuck to it. I initially tried retail and did a TAFE course in that while I was working part time at Toyworld. I got offered a job at Target and took it BIGGEST mistake! I only lasted a week or so, bit of a story I won't bore you with.

A mate was working in a factory and got a job there as a trades assistant. A few years later I got offered an apprenticeship and silly me stayed there. I was making Power supplies, Battery Chargers, Transformers etc. I was there for 11 yrs on minimum wage (for a tradie) and had an incident with the sheet metal guilotine in which I almost lost my finger. The sheet metal dude had adjusted the stop and my finger went straight under.

Anyway I thought fuck this for a joke and done an Autocad course as drafting always interested me (the only subject at high school I excelled at). My wife (fiance at the time) found a job for me as a drafting cadet, which I applied for and got. From there I took small steps, first working on little projects, left there and worked on the Clem 7 tunnel which was from a design perspective a success (from a management perspective it is a flop), then onto Airport Link, I could see that ending badly (which it has). I left this time last year and now I am working at a mining consulting company as a design drafter (someone's got to keep the Engineer's honest) and really enjoy it. I have been working since 1995 and it has taken me all this time to get a really good job.

TLDR? In short don't give up, give it your best effort and you will get there. Some people have the luck and get jobs through family friends etc, others give it their best effort and excel by their own merits.

Good luck to you my man!

[HEX1GON]

Still you managed to get some kind of income, I can't get anything it's like I'm never good enough for a simple crappy job. I'll never be what I want to be, cause it's always taken away from me... Maybe the crash I was in a few hours ago has traumatised me a bit I don't know.

I should mentioned I can't even get into an interview stage, I need advice on how I can get further I'm starting to stress and it's starting to effect my self-esteem.

[Bad_Ad84]

I know you dont want to hear this... but...

You are 19, you have no idea whats going to happen. You are talking like its so final...

I have been working for like 15 years and still decided I dont want to do this anymore recently.

Lots of time, dont worry.

[HEX1GON]

I know you dont want to hear this... but...

You are 19, you have no idea whats going to happen. You are talking like its so final...

I have been working for like 15 years and still decided I dont want to do this anymore recently.

Lots of time, dont worry.

My start has been very rocky, I know it's early like I said before but it's just effecting my emotional strength which isn't good at a young age...
I managed to get an application submitted at a games department at a major store so hopefully I have some kind of hope there.

[Mystical]

My start has been very rocky, I know it's early like I said before but it's just effecting my emotional strength which isn't good at a young age...
I managed to get an application submitted at a games department at a major store so hopefully I have some kind of hope there.

not knocking you mate but trust me that most peoples starts are rocky, you have to start at the bottom and most of the time do stuff thats not relevant to what you want your career to be (im a few months of 30 and only really starting to get settled in to my career, but i may still change), most of us have been there at the beginning when it seems that no one is willing to give you a chance but you just have to stick with it, remember that you may have to go outside of your comfort zone for a job depending on how desperately want one

when i was at uni we had to apply for job placements, i applied for over 100 of them (kept all the rejection emails etc. as i had to show my supervisor) and every single one was rejected, I have no idea why and it didn't exactly make me feel great but at the end of the day I tried my best and thats all you can do, if you want some advice for job interviews just be yourself and put some time and effort into researching the position you are going for (you would be surprised how many people dont do this) and just present yourself the best way you can, then if they decide they don't want to hire you its their loss and you move on to the next one

[Bad_Ad84]

Not being able to get a job isn't a "very rocky" start.

Try getting evicted because you cant pay the bills. Then your partner leaving you when all you do is drink, having to sell everything you owned as a kid and now have nothing left but your memory - which is no where near what it used to be.

Been there, done all of those.

I know its not very nice, but honestly - the answer is "suck it up", you are likely going to experience much worse than this.

[H360]

I applied for multiple jobs. I can't get one either. Things will work out in the end, for destiny has its own path that it sets.

[HEX1GON]

not knocking you mate but trust me that most peoples starts are rocky, you have to start at the bottom and most of the time do stuff thats not relevant to what you want your career to be (im a few months of 30 and only really starting to get settled in to my career, but i may still change), most of us have been there at the beginning when it seems that no one is willing to give you a chance but you just have to stick with it, remember that you may have to go outside of your comfort zone for a job depending on how desperately want one

when i was at uni we had to apply for job placements, i applied for over 100 of them (kept all the rejection emails etc. as i had to show my supervisor) and every single one was rejected, I have no idea why and it didn't exactly make me feel great but at the end of the day I tried my best and thats all you can do, if you want some advice for job interviews just be yourself and put some time and effort into researching the position you are going for (you would be surprised how many people dont do this) and just present yourself the best way you can, then if they decide they don't want to hire you its their loss and you move on to the next one

I read that a few times and I guess it's the best advice, I know it's a "try again" process and which I will keep trying.
Are you at a place you want to be now? I don't understand why it's so difficult though (which I already knew), it's also a build up of people calling me lazy but I'm always looking for jobs maybe it's time I tell them to fuck off :<
However, thanks for the solid words I'll surely remember your start as well, glad it's a shared experience (well not glad, but...) just hope it pats out soon.

Not being able to get a job isn't a "very rocky" start.

Try getting evicted because you cant pay the bills. Then your partner leaving you when all you do is drink, having to sell everything you owned as a kid and now have nothing left but your memory - which is no where near what it used to be.

Been there, done all of those.

I know its not very nice, but honestly - the answer is "suck it up", you are likely going to experience much worse than this.

Sure, but I've been trying for a long time to just face the facts, there is more to it for my emotional troubles and a lot of it is from high school it's still sticking to me, not sure if you can relate to it but hope you understand where I'm coming from. I'm still taking your advice anyway as you've proven to me many times that you're good help. I guess moping around won't get me anywhere so I'll have to bounce back into gear.

[Bad_Ad84]

I guess moping around won't get me anywhere so I'll have to bounce back into gear.

Thats more like it :)

I'm still taking your advice anyway as you've proven to me many times that you're good help. .

Its just "tough love". I know its not what you want to hear, but its what you need. Moping solves nothing, life will give you shit. Its how you deal with it that shows the type of person you are and how successful you will be.

I know I can come across as an asshole (ask Haunted!), but its mostly not my intention - I just say it how it is.

[HEX1GON]

Thats more like it :)



Its just "tough love". I know its not what you want to hear, but its what you need. Mopping solves nothing, life will give you shit. Its how you deal with it that shows the type of person you are and how successful you will be.

I know I can come across as an asshole (ask Haunted!), but its mostly not my intention - I just say it how it is.

I know you're very honest which is a good thing and helps out a lot. It did knock me on the head to wake me up to reality, starting tomorrow I'll go around the local stores and see if there is any positions.
Thanks for the quick support too.

[Mystical]

I read that a few times and I guess it's the best advice, I know it's a "try again" process and which I will keep trying.
Are you at a place you want to be now? I don't understand why it's so difficult though (which I already knew), it's also a build up of people calling me lazy but I'm always looking for jobs maybe it's time I tell them to fuck off :<
However, thanks for the solid words I'll surely remember your start as well, glad it's a shared experience (well not glad, but...) just hope it pats out soon.



Sure, but I've been trying for a long time to just face the facts, there is more to it for my emotional troubles and a lot of it is from high school it's still sticking to me, not sure if you can relate to it but hope you understand where I'm coming from. I'm still taking your advice anyway as you've proven to me many times that you're good help. I guess moping around won't get me anywhere so I'll have to bounce back into gear.

Yes sadly you will find that your entire life is a "try again" process, sometimes its good, sometimes its not, but the bad times make the good ones that much better, think how amazing you will feel when a job or opportunity comes up that you have been waiting for, then the long wait won't seem as bad and you will forget it quite quickly.


at the moment yes i am very happy with the place i am now, I currently do IT support and programming, however this will be moving to a purely programming role in the near future so that will be even better, its taken me 5 years of hard work (lot of overtime and weekends etc.) to get to this point just in my current job, plus all the stuff i have been doing since i left uni, I now have a house, a wonderful girlfriend, all my family and friends close by, a cat and 2 game rooms, i honestly could not be happier but i am not exactly earning alot of money either, it can still be quite a struggle sometimes but as i have always been told "Money does not buy happiness" and its so true!


You will be fine mate, just stick with it and you will eventually get what your after

[H360]

[HEX1GON]

Yes sadly you will find that your entire life is a "try again" process, sometimes its good, sometimes its not, but the bad times make the good ones that much better, think how amazing you will feel when a job or opportunity comes up that you have been waiting for, then the long wait won't seem as bad and you will forget it quite quickly.


at the moment yes i am very happy with the place i am now, I currently do IT support and programming, however this will be moving to a purely programming role in the near future so that will be even better, its taken me 5 years of hard work (lot of overtime and weekends etc.) to get to this point just in my current job, plus all the stuff i have been doing since i left uni, I now have a house, a wonderful girlfriend, all my family and friends close by, a cat and 2 game rooms, i honestly could not be happier but i am not exactly earning alot of money either, it can still be quite a struggle sometimes but as i have always been told "Money does not buy happiness" and its so true!


You will be fine mate, just stick with it and you will eventually get what your after

Thanks, I'll surely take those words. That's very true too, I just thought of how happy I could be once I actually get hired so I'm really looking forward to that day.

You're very lucky at the moment, I hope to be there one day and by the sounds of it, it's a lot of work but it pays off.
So thank you for all your support so far, and hopefully you have an easy road in the future too, cause owning house isn't easy (unless it's paid for). No really thanks for the support cause I do feel a lot better now than I did before :)

[Fury]

I've started to work at 19 after completing technical college. There is а big automobile plant in my town. There was poorly-paid job but I was intended to accumulated experience (working as engineer with almost half-cutted salary of engineer). I've studied at extramural courses at the same time and after 4 years I've graduated and found fairly good job.
Now I'm experienced CAD CAM CMM CAE PDM engineer with RP skills.

[Cyantist]

"it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get it and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward."

You're still incredibly young, and the recession could end soon, nobody knows. You have to keep putting yourself out there and grafting and you'll get there.

[Cyberghost]

I find myself in the same situation. I'm actually 21 and I haven't had a job since 2008 when I was still in high school. Sometimes I get discouraged too, but I'm still trying. Right now though, I'm more determined than ever to get hired ANYWHERE.

[Prometheus]

I can relate. I'm going to be turning 20 in less than a month, and I haven't had a job since my senior year of high school. I didn't have the job for very long, but it was cool while it lasted.

I've been applying for jobs since then, even jobs that I know I'd hate, and I've been turned down by all of them. I don't even get replies or anything, I just get ignored by every place I apply to, both in person and online. It irritates me and makes me think "What, I'm not good enough to work for you? My family is struggling to make ends meet and you won't even give me the chance to present myself in an interview? Fuck you." Job hunting sucks, but I guess we have to just keep trying. There's nothing else we can do.

[Hedgeyourbets]

You've got to remember that as much as these places would like you to think that they're doing you a favour by letting you come and work for them, they're not, they need you, without a workforce, businesses would crumble to dust, so while these places reject you, don't take it to heart, they're sjut stupid and don't know what they're missing out on. Jobs are hard to come by at the moment, I'm 20 and have never been employed for anything other than a bit of cash in hand computer repair/modding work. I've given up trying to get a job until after university now just because it's more trouble than it's worth and i can just about keep afloat with my student loan. Way I see it is, it's not a problem with me it's their problem that they can't see what a valuable asset I am, which helps to keep me from going on a crazed rampage with a breadknife. Of course it will get you down every now and then, but it is not a problem with you, I don't know what it's like elsewhere in the world but in the UK, some jobs get so many applications that they literally throw at least half the pile in the bin without even looking at it, our goverment is doing it's best to make anyone seeking financial aid in the form of benefits look like criminals and lowlifes while at the same time making hundreds of thousands of jobs disappear from underneath people. I don't see this recession ending anytime soon due to the trends of brutal austerity throughout europe and I'm assuming a good proportion of the rest of the financial powers of the world. So I'm looking forward to applying my biomedical science degree to my job distributing buns filled with hydrogenated death to the morbidly obese, I'm sure it will be fabulous :/

[veganx]

Bad_Ape's advice is the best I've read here.

I saw so many people from "rich" countries complaining about the social situation. The "first world" is falling apart.

Do you know any other language then english?
I got an internet job with a translation site. I stick with a netbook all day, hanging around the house translating flash games and doing my things.
This is because I know portuguese/english/french. Working with several languages is easy anywhere. My girlfriend is known to be the best teacher in a small private english school and she's only 22.
You can find some job online.

If you don't know any of those, just get out of Australia and come to Brazil :)
You can get a university scholarship. I have tons of friends from all around the world here. They live quite well with the university money.