EURO 2012

[rod_wod]

Those bloody Germans ...

any way


13th june

GROUP 2
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DENMARK 2 PORTUGAL 3
GERMANY 2 HOLLAND 1



LATER TODAY
IRELAND V SPAIN will they stay or will they go

[rod_wod]

14th june

GROUP 3
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CROASIA 1 ITALY 1
IRELAND 0 SPAIN 4


England v sweden tonight (7.45 BST)

prediction a 2-1 win for the lions

[karsten]

uhuhuh i predict a 2-2 from spain and croatia automatically sending out italy :P

remember sweden-denmark 3-3?

[7Force]

uhuhuh i predict a 2-2 from spain and croatia automatically sending out italy :P

remember sweden-denmark 3-3?

That wouldn't do it if Italy beat Ireland by at least three goals (which I wouldn't say is impossible)

[Does_anyone]

GO CZ! Since I'm currently there..

Ontopic, Sweden and England playing ATM

[pza]

That wouldn't do it if Italy beat Ireland by at least three goals (which I wouldn't say is impossible)

I think, karsten's right. It doesn't matter, how many goals Italy scores against Ireland.

- http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/Regulations/91/48/36/914836_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Equality of points after the group matches

8.07
If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the
following criteria are applied, in the order given; to determine the rankings:
a) higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;
b) superior goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (if more
than two teams finish equal on points);
c) higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (if
more than two teams finish equal on points);
d) superior goal difference in all the group matches;
e) higher number of goals scored in all the group matches;
f) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see Annex I,
paragraph 1.2.2);
g) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
h) drawing of lots.

8.08 If two teams which have the same number of points, the same number of goals
scored and conceded play their last group match against each other and are still
equal at the end of that match, the ranking of the two teams in question is
determined by kicks from the penalty mark (Article 16), provided no other teams
within the group have the same number of points on completion of all group
matches. Should more than two teams have the same number of points, the criteria
listed under paragraph 8.07 apply.

[7Force]

Huh, I thought goal difference was criterion #1. But I still think I'm right: if Spain and Croatia tie and Italy wins by more than three goals, Italy goes through since Italy-Croatia was a tie, so goal difference becomes the settling factor.

[pza]

a) higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;

So you'd have to make a own chart just for Spain, Croatia and Italy (all 5 Points). That's why the goals scored in Italy-Ireland are not important.
There's a good german wiki article ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direkter_Vergleich ) on this scenario, but I can't find a good explanation in english. The term is "tiebreaker" though.

[7Force]

Ohhhh, now I get it, somehow that rules article just confused me big time.

[pza]

Tbh, this is still very confusing, as I just discovered it yesterday.
Correct me, if I'm wrong, but that's how I see it:

euro12_2.png

Croatia - Spain 2:2 (1Pt.)
Italy-Ireland Italy wins (3Pts.); goals don't matter:
All 3 teams have 5Pts., so we need to compare them in a chart:

euro12.png

(I can't get it working with Courier New :s)

a) same points (4)
b) same goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (0)
c) higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (Spain and Croatia one more than Italy)

And Spain would be the group winner (8.07 d)), because they have 2 more goals than Croatia in ALL group games?!
Or a penalty Shootout, as stated in 8.08?
My head's about to explode.

[karsten]

anything above 1:1 (so 2:2 3-3 etc etc) sends us out immediatly and qualifies both spain and croatia... so it's impossible for them not to get an onorable draw that will save both :D

[pza]

euro12_4.png

GRE-RUS... Same story.

I've been watching almost every FIFA World Cup and big UEFA tournament since Italy '90 and this is the first time I've actually heard of this tiebreaker rule.... I don't get it.

[Johnny]

Was a bit surprised to see Russia eliminated so early. They were one of the best teams at last Euro.

[rod_wod]

Was a bit surprised to see Russia eliminated so early. They were one of the best teams at last Euro.

ME too I thought russia could win this year

and not to poo poo greece but germany are in the semi finals.... those bloody GERMANS





15th june

GROUP 4
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FRANCE 2 UKRAINE 0
ENGLAND 3 SWEDEN 2


16th june

GROUP 1
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POLAND 0 CZK R 1
GREECE 1 RUSSIA 0


Bad luck poland :(

[7Force]

Was a bit surprised to see Russia eliminated so early. They were one of the best teams at last Euro.

I'm surprised, but then again, four years is a pretty long time in football...and also, Guus Hiddink.

[itchy]

Russia, strong ?

What a joke.

[Getta Robo]

Kinda feel sorry for Russia, they definitely have a better structured team and overall played better in the tournament. Well, I guess that's the beauty in life, you can't be absolutely sure for anything.
ps. Before the soccer match we also win Russia in a friendly basketball game in Lithuania. Coincidence or what?

[XerdoPwerko]

Well, yesterday's results were unexpected, for certain.

Today is going to be quite interesting. I just hope for whichever combination of results can boot out Portugal early so that CR9 shuts his fucking trap already, and goes back to doing his nails and shopping. I hate him so much.

SO I guess I'm going to root for Denmark and Netherlands today, even though it's highly unlikely for any of them to win. Especially Netherlands. Damn.

Still, the matches should both be interesting, and I'll certainly be watching.

[XerdoPwerko]

Something went wrong and my post appeared twice. Maybe because I reopened the tab or something.

I guess I'll add something useful and say that tomorrow's matches look extremely interesting, and it's fucking annoying that I'm going to be working at the time those matches will be played.

[7Force]

Today is going to be quite interesting. I just hope for whichever combination of results can boot out Portugal early so that CR9 shuts his fucking trap already, and goes back to doing his nails and shopping. I hate him so much.

Kinda like I want Italy out just because of that dickbag Balotelli and his retarded haircut.