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    RGB to component?

    I've been meaning to get the best picture quality out of my consoles. Of course, that's RGB. However I don't want to use an RGB monitor. They're usually too small for my use. I do have a VERY nice Samsung CRT with component video. I'd like to run my old consoles from RGB to Component and use them on the TV... is it possible? would it be too expensive?

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    You'll probably need Scart cables for your consoles and a device like this one:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/370457930044...84.m1497.l2649

    You should list your consoles 'cause someones need modding in order to get Scart/component output.
    I know that Genesis, PS1 and Neo Geo don't need mods. I think that SNES also don't need.
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    Yup portables on the other hand rarely have RGB.

    Nomad is an exception. Ready out of the box. Though one is better served by Genesis if considering that.

    I'm not sure if Mega Jet connects RGB lines to its output.
    Last edited by Lum; 03-25-2012 at 09:53 PM.

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    I used that RGB to Component convertor on a Samsung LCD TV with an Xbox and it did give a nicer picture with the convertor then it did with native RGB SCART....
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    Do those things maintain a 15khz signal?

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    I have that RGB to component Converter only work perfect for JVC eyes sega cd but I have problems
    I have rgb cable for sega Saturn and dreamcast and the Converter only displays some garbage imagen.
    any help

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    Nice Samsung? Quite an oxymoron there :P

    Anywho if you get one of these adapters, go with a high-bandwidth (>75 MHz) 100% analog one for the best results. Anything with buttons or DIP switches is a bad sign. That eBay auction claims it to support a multitude of composite video formats, that's also a bad sign since that would make it a digital composite decoder and transcoder as opposed to a straight forward component encoder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calpis View Post
    Nice Samsung? Quite an oxymoron there :P

    Anywho if you get one of these adapters, go with a high-bandwidth (>75 MHz) 100% analog one for the best results. Anything with buttons or DIP switches is a bad sign. That eBay auction claims it to support a multitude of composite video formats, that's also a bad sign since that would make it a digital composite decoder and transcoder as opposed to a straight forward component encoder.
    Easy enough to find out. Connect a scart whose composite video pin is disconnected.

    I think what they meant to say is that it only processes the RGB portion. No scaling, aspect correction, or any features at all. Note a total lack of buttons and controls. Resolution and sync being merely passed through. 60hz 240p in > 60hz 240p out, etc.
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    If you disconnect the composite video from scart, you wont have a sync signal and therefore RGB wont work.

    Only way to test what you are suggesting is if the console outputs CSYNC only, rather than composite video.
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    True. We also know the device contains a sync separator. When receiving composite sync it must extract the sync to transfer to luma (being YPbPr output). Forcing people to buy CSYNC cables or modify consoles to support that, wouldn't have been good marketing.
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    I never said that....

    Your idea was to test that it actually converts RGB rather than just composite by pulling out the composite signal - therefore leaving RGB only to ensure its actually converting from RGB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lum View Post
    Easy enough to find out. Connect a scart whose composite video pin is disconnected.
    But what you suggested just wouldnt work - no composite video in the scart connector (unless using CSYNC only already) = no picture via RGB.

    But, once you have tested by using a console/cable that only uses CSYNC - you have your answer.
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    It does convert from RGB rather then composite (at least the one I have does) and does work on the major consoles. Testing it on a number of LCD TVs it does give a much nicer picture then feeding composite into the TV as a composite to component convertor would not magically improve the picture quality especially with sharpness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamtex View Post
    It does convert from RGB rather then composite (at least the one I have does) and does work on the major consoles. Testing it on a number of LCD TVs it does give a much nicer picture then feeding composite into the TV as a composite to component convertor would not magically improve the picture quality especially with sharpness.
    But of course, the point Bad_Ad84 is trying to make is that composite video is necessary as a signal for sync purposes unless C-SYNC is being used.
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    That's not really an issue. Every console I own with RGB output also has C-sync output.

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    Yes, but none of them has CSYNC and Composite video on the scart connector at the same time.

    If you have Composite video at the scart connector and you remove it, you wont have a picture.

    Composite video and CSYNC use the same pin, if you have Composite video then you cant have CSYNC. So if you remove composite video, you have no picture. Hence Lum's post couldnt possibly work.
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