iTunes (rant)

[alphagamer]

Since the beginning of the year I have an iPhone. I like it very much, but one thing I find pretty annoying. It is the folder structure iTunes creates on the iPhone. It creates a metric fuckton of folders, with random music files in them, some times more files in a folder, some times just a single file. The names are also pretty random. It is all very cryptic, random and messy.

Why can't I have my folder structure how I want it? Before this I had an Archos mp3 player, I had the same folder structure on there as on my PC.

I know Apple wants to force iTunes down on me with this, but iTunes is an unnecessary behemoth of software which I don't want to put up with.

So you Apple cracks... any way I can keep a clean folder structure on an iPhone?

Thank you very much in advance.

Oh, and I hope this will not turn to an Apple bashing thread all too soon... which it will eventually, and I'm fine with that, but please answer the question at hand first.

[dj898]

get the android and check out what Amazon has to offer... :p
... then try iTune. Actually I found it very easy to use especially with multiple iDevices in my household. Connect and hit the Sync button and get 'em over with...
And with iOS 5 you don't even need to hook up via the cable, just use the home wi-fi

[damox]

Why can't I have my folder structure how I want it? Before this I had an Archos mp3 player, I had the same folder structure on there as on my PC.

There is a perfectly good reason. I don't remember the specifics - but I covered it in a forensic journal at one stage.

It has to do with storing the files evenly over the storage.

Also, you can just bust open one of the database (sqlite?) files (none of them are passworded) and translate between real song name, location and file name.

[Twimfy]

It's also to make it more difficult for 3rd party applications to rip music from the device.

[ASSEMbler]

Most people I know who started on iphone have moved to android

[ave]

I love my iPhone (got one in August), but I hate iTunes. The same goes for iTunes on Mac - when I switched to OSX about two years ago, everything was like a wonderful dream. Better OS, better performance, user-friendly as hell... but then there's iTunes. I HATE iTunes..... so.....much!

I loved it when I could manage my music easily just by selecting a folder on my harddrive. Now I have to *import* files and weird stuff is created and synchronized, I can actually delete files by deleting it in my playlists (which are ridiculously confusing to create) et cetera, et cetera... horrible program.

[hugh]

I've never tried it and I don't know if it's out on the PC. Have you tried to use DoubleTwist? I know it used to allow you to sync all different kind of phones including the iPhone.

=hugh

[Barc0de]

Just tick the option to manually add music.

The down-side is that your music can't be exported from the iPhone/iPod if you don't hack around.

I'm ok with that though, I use the files in a read-only manner anyway, since the originals are "safely" bayed on a PC. Phew.

[HEX1GON]

being forced to use iTunes is a nightmare. I hate it, Android is a great OS but it's just not as supported as iOS is at this stage (that's how I see it anyway). iOS is good, iTunes isn't.. I have no idea what was wrong with drag and drop?
iFunBox is a great iPhone disk manager.

[alphagamer]

being forced to use iTunes is a nightmare. I hate it, Android is a great OS but it's just not as supported as iOS is at this stage (that's how I see it anyway). iOS is good, iTunes isn't.. I have no idea what was wrong with drag and drop?
iFunBox is a great iPhone disk manager.

I use iFunbox, but it doesn't handle music, does it?

I just want to be able to drag and drop folders onto my iPhone and to delete them, without much hassle; iTunes is supposed to make our lives easier, but it really only unnecessarily complicates things.

[HEX1GON]

I'm not too sure about that, maybe it can now? Try giving it a go.