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    ^ Interesting

    Were you original member from www.Undergroundbeta.com many years ago. That site got shut down in late 2001. Does that ring any bell to you ?

    As you saying about Biohazard 1 co-op videos and pictures was existed in Undergroundbeta along with all other prototype Tomb Raider stuff that not on internet today.

    I was there at the time as I upload some TR beta stuff there. Yes Internet was so new and it felt unreal but connection is so freaking slow if downloading the screenshot.

    Floppy disc was a nightmare.

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    Oh it was slow alright. Countless hours spent on the library computers just trying to get a few pics of some boobies lol.

    'The site name really doesn't ring any bells dude to be honest. Could very well be the one though. Christ knows!'

    God bless CD-R :)
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    The very old beta shown by Planet Lara a few years ago had sound effects. You couldn't hear them in the videos they recorded but they did upload them separately. They're completely different from the final version sound effects. http://nonametr.zzl.org/TR1betas/bet...undeffects.zip
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    Quote Originally Posted by noname View Post
    The very old beta shown by Planet Lara a few years ago had sound effects. You couldn't hear them in the videos they recorded but they did upload them separately. They're completely different from the final version sound effects. http://nonametr.zzl.org/TR1betas/bet...undeffects.zip
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    Interesting, i just converted the sound effects in an unused folder in the July beta. It seems that they are all identical to the ones your posted, same filenames but they are very lossy hence the low filesize and 1 or 2 are missing. It looks like there's code left over to load these sounds externally so CORE were experimenting with externally loading sound files I wonder if it's possible to enable them.

    The August and July beta use the same sound wad and i wrote an unpacker so i could view the sounds individually. However, none of the sound effects from the early beta are in the sound wad.

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    I have noticed some minor sound differences in the July/August wad for example:

    SOUND 23: The wolf howl is longer than the final.
    SOUND 33: Unused "Ouch"?
    SOUND 47: Shotgun SFX is different from final.
    SOUND 49: Lara push block moan is different from final.
    SOUND 50: Lara push block moan 2 slightly different from final?
    SOUND 57: Unknown unused?

    There may be others different or unused but I'm not that familiar

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    Decided to make a different unpacker for the August rolling demo SFX there are also some minor differences:

    LEVEL2.SND

    SOUND 38: Unused "ouch"?
    SOUND 54: Lara push block moan is different from final.
    SOUND 56: Lara push block moan 3 (very heavy) not used in final.

    TITLE.SND

    SOUND 2: Strange unused sound.

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    That is all ;/

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname View Post
    The very old beta shown by Planet Lara a few years ago had sound effects. You couldn't hear them in the videos they recorded but they did upload them separately. They're completely different from the final version sound effects. http://nonametr.zzl.org/TR1betas/bet...undeffects.zip
    Thanks for these. I'm surprised there even were sound effects in that stage. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decapicitated View Post
    Awesome video, thanks a lot for sharing! By the way, do you have an updated list of known Tomb Raider betas? I saw in some old posts a list with red/green items, and the last one said there were no known Tomb Raider 4 betas. If that's not the case anymore, this is a great find indeed!

    I haven't seen the development of this thread lately, so I am a bit lost about which new updates are there in the betas department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decapicitated View Post
    Lol, the size of those shells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geluda View Post
    Lol, the size of those shells.
    Lara always had big... "shells".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanaka View Post
    Awesome video, thanks a lot for sharing! By the way, do you have an updated list of known Tomb Raider betas? I saw in some old posts a list with red/green items, and the last one said there were no known Tomb Raider 4 betas. If that's not the case anymore, this is a great find indeed!

    I haven't seen the development of this thread lately, so I am a bit lost about which new updates are there in the betas department.
    Yeah that list is rather out dated and there's not been much stuff going on lately what so ever. I know i have an updated one somewhere which should be outdated as i stopped updating it I'll try scavenge and find it if i still have it or I'll update the old list.

    I've been working on a few Tomb Raider projects which I've probably not posted on here. One of which was a PORT of Tomb Raider Unfinished Business from PC to PS1, as it was a PC exclusive. It works excellent and was fun to work on however, hacking the game can be a nightmare. This isn't really beta related but oh well.

    Tomb Raider Unfinished Business PS1

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    The Times Beta Demo

    This is a beta of "The Times Exclusive" demo for Tomb Raider 4 only released on PC but it's for PSX.

    Tomb Raider 4 Test Level 1 (October 1999)

    This is similar to the test level previously shown but slightly different in level layout and contains a new selection of enemies which are featured in the final. It was probably used to test the enemies and how they react when Lara is in certain places still interesting, I also play around with the camera angle.

    Tomb Raider 4 Test Level 2 (October 1999)

    A brand new test level for Lara Croft, it was used to test bike Physics and items, objects of what Lara can interact with. This test level can also be seen in a Core Design interview video but it's slightly different and contains a bike unlike this one.

    Enjoy these were excellent to play with.

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    Where can I get those TR4 test levels, if I may ask?

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    Any chance someone could re-up the Tomb Raider (May 20; E3 Demo) from Hidden Palace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alf717 View Post
    Any chance someone could re-up the Tomb Raider (May 20; E3 Demo) from Hidden Palace?
    Course you can

    http://theisozone.com/dl-start/40150/1/

    Bare in mind, Sound does not exist in this version. you need to have PS1 emulator to run this ISO

    Enjoy the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest TR beta's View Post
    Course you can

    http://theisozone.com/dl-start/40150/1/

    Bare in mind, Sound does not exist in this version. you need to have PS1 emulator to run this ISO

    Enjoy the game.
    Very nice! Thank you.

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    I have a Tomb Raider Chronicles (Beta) for PS1 ...have that any value?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetYaroze View Post
    I have a Tomb Raider Chronicles (Beta) for PS1 ...have that any value?
    Isn't the Chronicles beta the one that was accidentally sold in the UK a few weeks before it's proper release date?

    Depending on how many of them sold, and if it's the same as the one you have, it could indeed be worth a fair few quid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by braders1986 View Post
    Isn't the Chronicles beta the one that was accidentally sold in the UK a few weeks before it's proper release date?

    Depending on how many of them sold, and if it's the same as the one you have, it could indeed be worth a fair few quid.
    I PM'd him about the build date but he hasn't got back to me yet. However, this can be still classified as the final build since it was pressed onto PSX discs, they just did a re-release due to some issue with some guy appearing in the game he filed a lawsuit so they had to remove him and re-release the game. It looks like some discs before the removal still made it into stores which I also have but sadly, it's not that much of an interesting build. Quite a few people have it and don't even notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decapicitated View Post
    I PM'd him about the build date but he hasn't got back to me yet. However, this can be still classified as the final build since it was pressed onto PSX discs, they just did a re-release due to some issue with some guy appearing in the game he filed a lawsuit so they had to remove him and re-release the game. It looks like some discs before the removal still made it into stores which I also have but sadly, it's not that much of an interesting build. Quite a few people have it and don't even notice.
    I thought the early release had some missing fmv audio in places too . I could be wrong, was a long time ago I read up on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by braders1986 View Post
    I thought the early release had some missing fmv audio in places too . I could be wrong, was a long time ago I read up on it.
    Yes, that's correct all FMVs have missing audio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decapicitated View Post
    I PM'd him about the build date but he hasn't got back to me yet. However, this can be still classified as the final build since it was pressed onto PSX discs, they just did a re-release due to some issue with some guy appearing in the game he filed a lawsuit so they had to remove him and re-release the game. It looks like some discs before the removal still made it into stores which I also have but sadly, it's not that much of an interesting build. Quite a few people have it and don't even notice.
    Is there anymore information regarding the guy you mention?

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