Graphics Card Help (or let's rip on my shitty ass PC) Topic

[3do]

I've had problems like this and what i did was to remove the card and then put it back in then connecting the power leads (yours doesn't need any so skip that part) then hooking my monitor back up with the DVI ti VGA adapter.

I'd also trying loading your PC up with the 5670 taken out and you using onboard graphics if possible. Then going into the bios use the option of setting it to fail safe defualts but set the PC up to goto pci-e graphics not onboard graphics and after that shut the pc down before installing the new card again.

If that fails all i can think of is that you have a defective card.

[Keiji Dragon]

When you have the new card plugged in and start the PC, does it boot up and do you hear the Windows start sound?

It boots up, but I do not hear the Windows start sound.

I'll try your advice right now, and I'll get back with you on an update later. With photographs.

When switching between integrated and PCIEx graphics card it is important to turn the integrated card off. You have to find the correct settings in the BIOS.
There is a place where you can tell the PC to turn on/off the integrated card (="IGP"), assign memory to it and also chose which card to turn on first. What you want is to turn on the PCIEx card (="PEG") and disable the "IGP".

You can change those settings
(1) when the new card is not installed: change the settings, save and turn off the PC. Then insert the card, plug in the monitor and turn on the PC. If you don't see a thing try plugging the monitor into the mainboard. If you don't see a thing there either, even after removing the PCIEx card then locate and take out the CMOS battery, turn on the PC, turn it off again and insert the CMOS battery to start over.
(2) when the new card is not installed: connect the monitor to the mainboard, change the settings, save and turn of the PC. then connect the monitor to new card and it should work.

One thing, what is this place you are speaking of and what are IGP and PEG? Is this universal among PCs?

[APE]

I think those connectors on top are for SLI connectors. Like if you wanted to run 2 cards for improved performance.

Crossfire. SLI was the name for 3DFX's technology with the trademarks and what not bought up by nVidia who now use the same name for their card linking technology.

Some motherboards support Crossfire and SLI but not very many IIRC.

In reference to PCI-E type being a factor for compatibility, it is to some extent. Some 1.0 cards likely run on 2.0 and 2.1 capable mobos just fine. Early 2.0 cards probably run just fine on some 1.0 capable mobos and so on.

Translation: your mileage will vary; buy cards that specifically state they use the technology your motherboard says it uses. If the names and numbers all match up and the cables aren't plugged in wrong you probably got a dud.

[3do]

One thing, what is this place you are speaking of and what are IGP and PEG? Is this universal among PCs?

IGP is the onboard graphics on your motherboard (i.e. the video connections next to your usb/audio/ethernet on the back of your PC) and PEG is basically for the pci-e expansion slot on your motherboard to enable you to use any sutiable card installed in that slot like the one you bought.

The place he is speaking of is most likely the BIOS which you get to by pressing the Delete key (or sometimes another key depending on motherboard) upon starting your pc, in here you have many settings of which you'd want to find the one that enables you to select the PEG slot instead of IGP so that when you connect your monitor to the HD5670 you'd get picture from that first.

[Keiji Dragon]

The place he is speaking of is most likely the BIOS which you get to by pressing the Delete key (or sometimes another key depending on motherboard) upon starting your pc, in here you have many settings of which you'd want to find the one that enables you to select the PEG slot instead of IGP so that when you connect your monitor to the HD5670 you'd get picture from that first.

Thanks for the help so far!

You mean this right? I got there via pressing F10 on my keyboard.

[rosewood]

Ok, you've found the right place :) I expected more settings though.

Primary Video Adapter ist already set to PCI-E, that's the right setting where it should work.
I would set the two settings above that (Plug and Play OS / Reset Configuration Data) both to "yes", then save and exit.

Now, about the Windows start sound:
When the PC boots and you have no picture but sound that means you did something wrong, plugged the monitor in the wrong port, used a wrong adapter etc.
When the PC boots and you have no picture and no sound than something is "jammed", i.e. the components are not working together.

Then I'd advise you to buy a graphics card that is about 2-3 years older, to match the generation of you mainboard.
Btw, this is you mainboard: http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/biz...ctID=c00864922

One thing you need to know when using a DVI-VGA adapter:
DVI is not one standard but three, DVI-A (analog), DVI-D (digital) and DVI-I (both), so what you want is a graphics card that has a VGA output (best choice, no adapter needed) or a DVI-A / DVI-I output (adapter to VGA possible).
A DVI-D will NEVER get you a picture because it outputs digital signals only, except you connect that to a digital input (modern TFTs or TVs with DVI-D and HDMI inputs).

[3do]

Now, about the Windows start sound:
When the PC boots and you have no picture but sound that means you did something wrong, plugged the monitor in the wrong port, used a wrong adapter etc.
When the PC boots and you have no picture and no sound than something is "jammed", i.e. the components are not working together.

He says he has NO sound which means he isn't getting any boot or if he is then there is a sound problem.

If is using the DVI to VGA adapter that came with his card then it can't be wrong port or wrong adapter because from the picture he posted there is only 1 DVI port and any DVI adapter supplied would be the correct one for hooking up to an old or new monitor that only has VGA.

[tails92]

Gotta love the fact people here drool for 20+ years old consoles yet consider perfectly good computers old and uncapable. I can deal with Pentium IIs, heck. Ditch Windows 7, it is an operating system bloated on purpose.

[Cyantist]

Gotta love the fact people here drool for 20+ years old consoles yet consider perfectly good computers old and uncapable. I can deal with Pentium IIs, heck. Ditch Windows 7, it is an operating system bloated on purpose.

Not a matter of that. I had a perfectly good P4 (and I still have some) system with 128mb of ram from 2002-2006. It just became uncapable and I sold it when I started using Vegas for rendering.

[Keiji Dragon]

Ok, you've found the right place :) I expected more settings though.

Primary Video Adapter ist already set to PCI-E, that's the right setting where it should work.
I would set the two settings above that (Plug and Play OS / Reset Configuration Data) both to "yes", then save and exit.

When the PC boots and I have no picture and no sound, STILL. =/ Any other ideas?

Then I'd advise you to buy a graphics card that is about 2-3 years older, to match the generation of you mainboard.
Btw, this is you mainboard: http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/biz...ctID=c00864922

So your saying that I might have a card that is too powerful for even my late-2006 PC?

Wow, that says a lot about my shit. =P

So how do I know what is the right graphics card for my PC at this point? I really don't know where to start now. =/

[rosewood]

When the PC boots and I have no picture and no sound, STILL. =/ Any other ideas?


So your saying that I might have a card that is too powerful for even my late-2006 PC?

Wow, that says a lot about my shit. =P

So how do I know what is the right graphics card for my PC at this point? I really don't know where to start now. =/

I guess that's all you can do. AFAIK only early PCIe 2.0 cards can be used on PCIe 1.0 mainboards, the newer ones require at least PCIe 1.1 mainboards.

The card you bought is not too powerful but just incompatible.

What you want to look for is a card that is compatible with PCIe 1.0, e.g. the nVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS with 1GB RAM. That card is old and low budget but enough for watching HD video and image editing. And it won't eat up your systems RAM.

When you buy a card to look for this specifications:
-PCIe 1.0 or compatible
-no extra power connection required
-VGA or DVI-I/DVI-A output
-passive cooled is an option too

When buying an ATI card you can just plug it in and update to the newest driver. When buying a nVIDIA card you have to remove the ATI drivers first before plugging it in. Windows 7 will get you the newest nVIDIA drivers via WindowsUpdate.

I can assure an 8400 is enough for you needs, because I had until recently a Hybrid SLI system with a 9800 GTX+ and an onboard 8300. Most of the time I had the 9800 turned off and used the 8300 only, HD video over two monitors, image editing, emulation and of course Windows Vista / Windows 7 Aero.
The performance index is 4.3 (Aero) and 5.3 (games).
If that is not enough for you you can go for a 8600 or 8800, but keep an eye for the specifications mentioned above.

[Cyantist]

I hate to nag but have you replaced the power supply. They ARE motherboard killers.

[Keiji Dragon]

I guess that's all you can do. AFAIK only early PCIe 2.0 cards can be used on PCIe 1.0 mainboards, the newer ones require at least PCIe 1.1 mainboards.

The card you bought is not too powerful but just incompatible.

What you want to look for is a card that is compatible with PCIe 1.0, e.g. the nVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS with 1GB RAM. That card is old and low budget but enough for watching HD video and image editing. And it won't eat up your systems RAM.

When you buy a card to look for this specifications:
-PCIe 1.0 or compatible
-no extra power connection required
-VGA or DVI-I/DVI-A output
-passive cooled is an option too

When buying an ATI card you can just plug it in and update to the newest driver. When buying a nVIDIA card you have to remove the ATI drivers first before plugging it in. Windows 7 will get you the newest nVIDIA drivers via Windows Update.

I can assure an 8400 is enough for you needs, because I had until recently a Hybrid SLI system with a 9800 GTX+ and an onboard 8300. Most of the time I had the 9800 turned off and used the 8300 only, HD video over two monitors, image editing, emulation and of course Windows Vista / Windows 7 Aero.
The performance index is 4.3 (Aero) and 5.3 (games).
If that is not enough for you you can go for a 8600 or 8800, but keep an eye for the specifications mentioned above.

Thanks for all the help so far everyone!

What I'm looking to do with a graphics/video card is video rendering, making, recording to post on YouTube. Not just necessarily image editing, mind you. =)

Well, I'm convinced this card won't do, so who wants to buy my graphics card!? $70 USD NEW~! :thumbsup:

EDIT: One more thing, what is the principal difference between GDDR3 and GDDR5? I was told GDDR5, by the same person who recommended me to buy the graphics card I have now, was superior because it's faster while GDDR3 was "slow and shit." (As a matter of fact, I once showed him those same kinds of cards that Rosewood exemplified, and he called them worthless shit, or something to that regard. Maybe he was getting ahead of himself?) But I never really took his words to heart or as truth, I could not even know what he was talking about frankly.

[Keiji Dragon]

Alright, since I'm getting rid of my Radeon HD card that isn't compatible with my current PC, I'm gonna get my money back by selling it to anyone who's interested. =)

SOLD!

[Keiji Dragon]

Good news everyone! I've decided to build a PC from the ground up instead, and today I just bought and installed a new PSU into my current PC (because I'm still waiting to get my new mobo, and I wanted to try out the new PSU on my current PC too. Nothings noticeably different yet)!

Just one question though, can installing a higher-watt PSU improve PC performance in some way? I just installed this CORSAIR CX500 into my PC. http://r.ebay.com/NaDfrR