Sega Saturn DEV HARDWARE

[Viper]

Not really into the Sega Saturn but what Parts did SN Systems put out for the Sega Saturn for development? Anything that can stream your Saturn games and not use the CD?

Viper

[ASSEMbler]

There's a disc emulator, quite expensive...

[dj898]

... called Mirage from memory
most of dev Saturn consoles have the big socket at the side labelled VCD which is for that unit

[Jackhead]

i bought a PsyQ Unit with cart: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...=STRK:MEWNX:IT
i wonder there is a poti on the right side. Seller tells me with the sticker on top you can switch many regions you like, also a build in switchable VCD cart. Anyone has a same unit?
Also looking for the PsyQ driver disks and the interface pcb.

[HI_Ricky]

i am got this Victor Modem long time ago, any one know how to use it?

[retro]

i am got this Victor Modem long time ago, any one know how to use it?

Stick it in the cartridge port, then plug a modem lead into it and your phone line? ;-)

Japan's modems used a pay service, no? As opposed to NetLink. Does that mean you can't use a Japanese modem now? Can you still use Pad Nifty or the Sega Saturn Internet disc, or are they useless now? Have you tried those with the Victor modem?

Going back to the original question, I did a post in this section a long time ago on what dev hardware was released for the Saturn. Have a look back (it could possibly be on the last page).

Short answer: Mirage or JVC card with a dev target - it's not going to work with a retail Saturn.

*EDIT*

Hmm, don't see it here any more - although it still exists here:

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums...71&postcount=2

[HI_Ricky]

Stick it in the cartridge port, then plug a modem lead into it and your phone line? ;-)

Japan's modems used a pay service, no? As opposed to NetLink. Does that mean you can't use a Japanese modem now? Can you still use Pad Nifty or the Sega Saturn Internet disc, or are they useless now? Have you tried those with the Victor modem?

x-band game did not find the modem, and i have the internet cd to test it :(

[retro]

x-band game did not find the modem, and i have the internet cd to test it :(

I seriously doubt it'll actually work any more, anyway :(

Not that I can see how it would make a difference, but are you using it on a Victor Saturn?

[HI_Ricky]

I seriously doubt it'll actually work any more, anyway :(

Not that I can see how it would make a difference, but are you using it on a Victor Saturn?

yes, i try on dev box and victor saturn, no help :(
EDIT : it come with my old saturn dev stuff, so i think it not for retail ...

[dj898]

i bought a PsyQ Unit with cart:
also a build in switchable VCD cart. .

I think that switch is to set the console to use either VCD - aka Mirage(?) - or built-in CD-ROM drive. Nothing to do with VCD - VideoCD Card if you meant it

[HI_Ricky]

Saturn Mirage....
there is readme.txt :)




Welcome to Saturn Mirage CD Tools
Released June 1997. Copyright Cross Products Ltd. All rights reserved.




This disc contains:

Saturn Mirage Workshop (PC only) - Windows interface for building scripts and controlling the Saturn Mirage CD Emulator. IMPORTANT NOTE this release of Saturn Mirage Workshop only supports CD-ROM Mode 1 and CD-DA. CD-ROM/XA Mode 2 disc format standard will be supported in later releases of this product.

CPBuild - CD building tool for PC and SG Indy.

Mirage program - a program to control the Saturn Mirage CD Emulator from DOS.

Mirage firmware upgrade 134a.

PDF version of the Mirage User's Manual and Acrobat Reader.




To install on a PC
Insert the CD in your CD drive and run setup.exe




To install on an SG Indy
Insert the CD in your CD drive.
Run the Software Manager.
In the box "Available Software" enter the path for your CD drive.
Click "Customise Installation" and choose the files you want to install.
Click "Start"
When installation is complete, reboot your system.
See the Mirage User's Manual for further details




To upgrade the Mirage's firmware see the Mirage User's Manual for details.





Technical support for these products is available from ADO Electronic Industrial Co Ltd at the address given on the CD for customers in Japan and from Cross Products at http://www.crossprod.co.uk for the rest of the world.

[Jackhead]

Sorry when i miss, but Mirage is for the cross Unit only?
My Unit is a PsyQ, or not? Little confused...

[HI_Ricky]

Sorry when i miss, but Mirage is for the cross Unit only?
My Unit is a PsyQ, or not? Little confused...

Cross is base on CSK and ADO Ltd. ,and this 2 company Family with SEGA.

so PsyQ become 3rd hard development , of coz they will try use all Cross dev Unit :P


PS : Cross = SEGA , even on Cross Unit , some ver is mark "SEGA" on it :P

[retro]

Sorry when i miss, but Mirage is for the cross Unit only?
My Unit is a PsyQ, or not? Little confused...

Read the link I posted.

Firstly, the PsyQ is the cartridge, NOT the Saturn. The Saturn is modified by Psygnosis for use with a VCD (virtual CD device) - it's NOT a Video CD card.

VCD devices, as I said in my last post and on the link, are Mirage and JVC card. They will connect to a Sophia target or a modified Saturn with a retail port.

Does your Saturn say Cross or Psygnosis on the side? If it says Cross, it's not the one that "goes" with the PsyQ card and you have a mish-mash of parts from two dev systems. Not that the PsyQ won't work in it.

[Jackhead]

Understand, thanks for the info.
I bought the unit some days ago, still waiting for it.
Will make some pics when i got my hands on it.

[HI_Ricky]

Codespace.....
my software collection (part):P

[Runik]

I did compile some informations about Saturn dev kits and related in the Segaxtreme wiki (bottom of the page).
It's just missing infos about Cross CartDev Rev.A :)

[retro]

I did compile some informations about Saturn dev kits and related in the Segaxtreme wiki (bottom of the page).
It's just missing infos about Cross CartDev Rev.A :)

Nah, you're missing some items and information, and some stuff isn't right.

I see that some of your text and all of your pictures have been copied from other sources. Be very careful - text and photos are copyrighted and the copyright owners may not take kindy to your plagiarism without permission. I for one was not happy to see one of my photos has been taken from this very forum and used without asking me or even giving me credit. The one time I didn't watermark my image, and it seems I should have. I usually make my watermarks fairly inconspicuous, but I can see I'll have to plaster text all over my images in future.

Whilst it may be unlikely to happen when it comes to dev kits, if you lift images from websites and use them on your own, sooner or later you'll take one that's owned by Getty and they WILL sue you.

[Runik]

I tried to do with stuff I had handy, and some that was available on the net. When sources are available, they are clearly stated (in the "reference" or "links" sections of the page).
Your post here (Sophia Saturn setup) is given as reference at the end of the "Hitachi ICE based Saturn Dev System" page ...

I never stated anywhere that I wrote the stuff, I just compiled it, and cited the sources when available.
The goal of a wiki is to keep information available, it would be a shame to loose all this information (like the DTS website which isn't available anymore)

But if you think that giving the original link isn't enough, I can remove the whole page.
Regarding incorrect stuff, you can add data yourself if you feel like it :)

[retro]

I tried to do with stuff I had handy, and some that was available on the net. When sources are available, they are clearly stated (in the "reference" or "links" sections of the page).
Your post here (Sophia Saturn setup) is given as reference at the end of the "Hitachi ICE based Saturn Dev System" page ...

I never stated anywhere that I wrote the stuff, I just compiled it, and cited the sources when available.
The goal of a wiki is to keep information available, it would be a shame to loose all this information (like the DTS website which isn't available anymore)

But if you think that giving the original link isn't enough, I can remove the whole page.
Regarding incorrect stuff, you can add data yourself if you feel like it :)

Oh I agree that it's important to keep data, but it's better to rewrite it yourself where possible, and then cite the source.

I've never used this particular Wiki, but they should be set up to cite sources inline, e.g. you get a number in the text and that links to the appropriate number in the references list, so you know the source of a specific piece of information.

As for pictures, there are two points here:

1. You should ask permission to use the image, where possible.
2. You should mention the source of the image.

For point 1, you knew that the photo was mine and that I was on the forum, so you could have replied to the thread and asked permission.

For point 2, decent Wikis have the ability to name the source of the image when you upload it - i.e. when someone clicks on the image, it says underneath where the image came from.

In this case, yes you linked to the page, but it should really refer to the user who posted it. Perhaps this is the fault of the Wiki used.

Anyway, not to worry this time, although I'm still not thrilled about that picture being used. I might consider taking a better picture (that actually illustrates a true complete setup, which this one doesn't) in future and replacing it with that. ;-)