Cube64-DX - Ameliored GC controller to N64 adapter.

[link83]

How about pressing AL+AR+Start to access all settings? Then you could press the D-pad direction 1, 2 or 3 times to make selections?

So in other words:-
Press AL+AR+Start to enter 'Settings mode'
Then press D-Pad left to enter 'Button remap mode' or right to enter 'Advance config mode'
Then press a D-pad direction again to make a selection
Press AL+AR+Start (or just Start) to exit 'Settings mode'

So AL+AR+Start is like the adaptors 'Menu' button, and the D-pad allows you to select sub-menus until you reach the option you want. the great thing about this is its 'future proof' as you can keep adding as many sub-menus/options as you want.

...Just an idea :shrug:

[DarthCloud]

How about pressing AL+AR+Start to access all settings? Then you could press the D-pad direction 1, 2 or 3 times to make selections?

So in other words:-
Press AL+AR+Start to enter 'Settings mode'
Then press D-Pad left to enter 'Button remap mode' or right to enter 'Advance config mode'
Then press a D-pad direction again to make a selection
Press AL+AR+Start (or just Start) to exit 'Settings mode'

So AL+AR+Start is like the adaptors 'Menu' button, and the D-pad allows you to select sub-menus until you reach the option you want. the great thing about this is its 'future proof' as you can keep adding as many sub-menus/options as you want.

...Just an idea :shrug:

Good point, but rather than adding another menu level, AL+AR+Start will be like you said to enter the Config Mode. With D-pad you will access the various sub menu mentioned earlier. For remap button mode and reset layout, they will still use their previous button.

So with AL+AR+Start you get in the menu, if you press start again you enter button remap mode, if you press Z you reset button layout, if you press one d-pad direction you get into the corresponding sub-menu.

It think it's the best way to do it! Thank for help!


Btw since option selection is now a bit complicated, it will be hard to disable the build-in rumble for game that don't like it on boot.

So holding the d-pad (no combo needed) on boot in either direction will put the adapter in the mode corresponding to what will be available in the "Select adapter mode" sub-menu.

[link83]

Good point, but rather than adding another menu level, AL+AR+Start will be like you said to enter the Config Mode. With D-pad you will access the various sub menu mentioned earlier. For remap button mode and reset layout, they will still use their previous button.

So with AL+AR+Start you get in the menu, if you press start again you enter button remap mode, if you press Z you reset button layout, if you press one d-pad direction you get into the corresponding sub-menu.

It think it's the best way to do it! Thank for help!

Glad I could help :-)

Btw since option selection is now a bit complicated, it will be hard to disable the build-in rumble for game that don't like it on boot.

So holding the d-pad (no combo needed) on boot in either direction will put the adapter in the mode corresponding to what will be available in the "Select adapter mode" sub-menu.

Sounds good, but I thought the adaptor saved current button/configuration settings? So for games that dont like rumble couldn't you just turn on console, disable rumble, then reset?

[DarthCloud]

Glad I could help :-)


Sounds good, but I thought the adaptor saved current button/configuration settings? So for games that dont like rumble couldn't you just turn on console, disable rumble, then reset?

Adapter mode is volatile, only active button layout is saved, I will probably save the active memory bank later too,

You could do a reset since the current setting will stay in adapter RAM since the adapter itself don't reset but It's better to be able to do it on boot without need to reset the system.

I don't save adapter mode because that's something you gonna change often while using the very same game. So I think it's better to not save that and always default to rumble pak.

However button layout and memory pak will most likely change only when you choose to play another games later.

[derekb]

does digikey offer the PIC used in this setup as free samples?

[DarthCloud]

does digikey offer the PIC used in this setup as free samples?

Don't know but you can get free sample directly from microchip.

You just need a school email or job email to get free shipping too.

[billcosbymon]

Sweet, I can use my school email to get a free sample PIC?

[DarthCloud]

Sweet, I can use my school email to get a free sample PIC?

Yes, at least it does work with my university email and my work job too for me.

Anyway PICs cost nothing.

[takeshi385]

save yourself $200 and buy a hori pad mini.
thats what did , that or mod .///

[DarthCloud]

save yourself $200 and buy a hori pad mini.
thats what did , that or mod .///

200$??

Those Hori controller are far from easy to get, and their are way too small anyway. I used one for sometimes but never used tit again once I build my original Cube64.

And killing a modern controller for only a joystick doesn't sound quite interesting to me...

GC to N64 adapter cost like 15$ to build and you still able to use your GC controller with your GameCube and Wii.

[takeshi385]

hmm

[derekb]

I noticed you can get replacement n64 sticks now that are styled a bit more like the gc ones from an amazon source, anyone tried those?

http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Contr.../dp/B000F7V2GO

also just for clarification, will your tutorial as-is power a wavebird receiver?

[derekb]

I don't see why you couldn't. Might have to adapt the instructions a bit to your socket from what is up on the diagrams but using a socket was merely of convenience rather than a requirement from what I understand of the instructions posted.

I'm going to wire all of the parts onto veroboard myself and stick it inside one of these:



Just gotta find a socket for a GameCube controller to stick in the front. Ordered the parts I need to build a JDM programmer today so hopefully within about 2 weeks I'll be in business.

Problem is that finals are coming up and this will make a tempting procrastination target...

Damn you DarthCloud!

hey APE just wondering if you have the pinout of the n64 plug on the microphone adapter, interested in using mine as well

[DarthCloud]

I noticed you can get replacement n64 sticks now that are styled a bit more like the gc ones from an amazon source, anyone tried those?

http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Contr.../dp/B000F7V2GO

also just for clarification, will your tutorial as-is power a wavebird receiver?

Yes, only the rumble motor need 5v, so the receiver don't need that at all.

[APE]

hey APE just wondering if you have the pinout of the n64 plug on the microphone adapter, interested in using mine as well

There are only three wires on every N64 controller:



That is facing the N64 controller ports. Reverse the image when facing the cable. I don't know offhand if the wires are color coded but I can crack mine open later and check to see which is what if you need it.

[Alchy]

save yourself $200 and buy a hori pad mini.
thats what did , that or mod .///

Those Hori mini pads are crazy expensive for third-party, though. I saw one on ebay that ended at £70 or so. Ridiculous price.

[ave]

Makes you realize how much everybody hates Nintendo's pads.

[derekb]

There are only three wires on every N64 controller:



That is facing the N64 controller ports. Reverse the image when facing the cable. I don't know offhand if the wires are color coded but I can crack mine open later and check to see which is what if you need it.

yeah it has red / white / black leads coming onto the microphone board, just wanted to make sure the cables in the microphone are colored to match up those labels versus whippin out a multimeter

[stuntpenguin]

My Cube64 quit working on me a few months ago, and I've been too lazy to fix it. Looks like I'll be making this instead. Do you think it would be possible to use an SD card on the pic as a memory card? I know the memory card size would still be capped, but I'm just wondering.

[DarthCloud]

My Cube64 quit working on me a few months ago, and I've been too lazy to fix it. Looks like I'll be making this instead. Do you think it would be possible to use an SD card on the pic as a memory card? I know the memory card size would still be capped, but I'm just wondering.

Yeais it's possible SD card can be interfaced as SPI device so it would be easy to implement once I change the PIC used. Might be a cheaper and easier way than using an eeprom now that I think about it.. ;)