The unmoderated NEO GEO thread

[retro]

Adol, I'm just going to reply as briefly as possible about these things. Don't want to make this boring - not that it's not too late! ;-)

• The other forum badmouthed us WITHOUT coming here - so surely you should ask them why they didn't have the balls? Nothing to do with Dion, and years ago. I'm not badmouthing the forum, I'm merely voicing my disregard for their attitude. I'd give you specific examples of them doing that but they've made the forums viewable to registered members only, and there's no "forgot password" button on the sign in form - really friendly, that!
  
• Let's not go through everything you've said about Dion ;-)
  
• I'm not responsible for what others say. Please remember - this is the UNMODERATED thread. It's the one place we can all say what we like. On your other forum, it'd be said wherever. You're entitled to your opinion, others are entitled to disagree. You're entitled to state your point, others are entitled to argue with it. Despite it getting a bit petty with namecalling and such, that's still having an adult discussion.
  
  If someone calls you something you don't like, I'd suggest either politely asking that they don't, or ignoring it. If it really bothers you, don't participate in the unmoderated forum. Notice how I handled both of you saying the photo was of me? I could have chosen to be as childish as you and said "No, it's of your Mum - how is she doing?" Now that would have been stupid. To be honest, I'm not proud of using the image, it's not something I generally agree with, but that just illustrates how stupid I believe this discussion has become.
  
• I totally agree - we don't have to have everyone's respect. All I was saying was that you had mine for your collection, but this petty squabbling diminishes my respect for you.
  
  OK, so you may just do it now, but like I said - state your point, then stop. That's the grown-up thing to do. I'd have expected this of you 14 years ago, but not now.
  
• Dion has responded that the 50k order was for hundreds of items. The claim was that 5 CDs were missing. That's OK, it happens. It can be sorted easily, no? And apparently, the order with stuff written all over it was a different order. Why would you order several times from someone if you weren't happy with their service? Answer - you wouldn't!
  
• How is Dion supposed to make amends with people on a forum when they won't let him on there? Tell me that. And if you were in his shoes, wanting to make amends, and people like you just shouted at his every post calling him a liar, would you still want to make amends? What IS your idea of making amends, anyway? He's come back, he's sharing information and pictures with us and calmly discussing things. That's a pretty good start in my book. If your idea of making amends is him repaying you something you feel is owed, take that up with him privately. And on that note:
  
• Yes I'd be upset. Yes, I might mention it to people if the person was still selling. ONCE. If someone chose to believe that seller, I'd say "OK, that's your choice - don't say I didn't warn you!" I would definitely not say "NO! NO! NO! You are WRONG to trust him! He cannot be trusted!" It's their choice.
  
  Incidentally, congratulations on getting SOMETHING back. Many of us have been scammed and received NOTHING. Look for the thread from that Austrian? guy who dealt with someone in the UK for a PS3 and didn't get a refund or his console - and it seems he doesn't have a leg to stand on legally! So again, if you do - congratulations for being in a better position than him!
  
  I bought a piece of dev hardware off a German guy in the US. He never sent it. I e-mailed him. He apologized, said he was ill. Said he would find it and send it. It never happened. Eventually, his e-mail address stopped working and I couldn't find him at his address. Yes, I'm pissed off, but shit happens.

Ok, here's an adult response: I completely deny it, and am waiting proofs of such lie.
But for the funny story, i wasn't adult back at the time, i was a minor (-18).

I didn't notice yet you asked the question. then let me be clear once again: this is the very first time i've heard of such story, and i completely deny it. And i'm waiting concrete proofs of me tearing stickers.
And not pictures of torn stickers anyone could tore, of course.

I remember i sent the cart back yes.
I remember Dion tried to screw me by offering way less than a complete refund. It's illegal.

If you send back a product,and get 15% refund instead of the 100% one the law enforces, how would you feel?

I don't deny it. But i never accepted a partial refund as a closure.
Law enforces a complete refund, so complete refund it has to be.
Not some goofy refund like "mmm, the sticker is strange,let's cut 80% of the refund".
It has to be 100% refund, period. I am still waiting, 14 years later, the completion of the refund.
And once again,i completely deny the stupid torn stickers story.

I remember, and i claimed it many pages ago,wake up!

Adol, can I ask you a question? Again, this is one I've asked you before but you haven't answered. So I'll make it bold here. And please, don't take any offence - it's just a question:

Is the person posting as Adol here one person, or is it still two brothers?

The reason I ask is that you keep contradicting yourself. Either you are two people, which would explain this, or you have some kind of multiple personality disorder (again, please don't take offence - I'm merely trying to work out why you don't remember my questions).

A few days ago (and a few pages ago), I listed the allegations from the NGF Bible, and asked you and Dion to comment on them. Here are your answers:

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums...&postcount=142

• Dion wrote his name on the back of the insert in black permanent marker. TRUE
• Adol tore the sticker off the cart in a fit of rage. DON'T REMEMBER IT, BUT CAN BE TRUE.
• Adol then sent the cartridge back to Dion, requesting a refund. WILL CHECK, BUT PROBABLY TRUE
• Dion stated that Adol should pay for the damage to the sticker. DON'T REMEMBER, BUT PROBABLY TRUE, HE'S GREEDY
• Dion claimed that the sticker cost him $400. HAHA, SURELY TRUE, ONLY DION COULD ASK SO MUCH MONEY FOR A $10 STICKER. THAT'S ILLEGAL ANYWAY
• Dion offered Adol a refund, but it was only for $100 or so. POSSIBLE, AND COMPLETELY ILLEGAL, REFUND SHOULD HAVE BEEN $600
• Adol received said refund. POSSIBLE,IF SO, STILL WAITING THE REMAINING $500 + legal interest for 14 years.

So again I ask you, how can you not remember me asking this - or you replying?

I would love to see the outcome of this case in a court. Please go ahead with it!! It would be an end to the argument finally!

[LeGIt]

I'd really rather see him answer all the questions people asked him and not avoiding them like he did for the past decade. That would be a change.

You mean just like you avoid many of my questions and refuse to prove anything? =/

It is your lack of evidence and foolish behaviour which ruins the credibility of your statements.

You are to me, what Dion is to you, except you are exponentially worse than he is.

I wish you can see this =/

[geddon_jt]

Ok, I'm done, "you win." It's guys like you who discourage me from taking the time to do any of this stuff.

The rest of you can read my prior posts to get an idea for why the Neo community feels the way they do about these guys. There are other detailed resources on the net that can illuminate you further. If you don't care to do that, well, good for you, I don't really care.

[Pannolino]

back on topic (lol) there's a question that come in mind:



there' was a manuals replacement service (officially provided directly by SNK of AMERICA trough Dion/NGF) and there was no regular printed "ROM" manual in the english Pulstar version?
Sounds a bit strange to me.

wanna to point this pic out again since i find it ..well.. O_O

[retro]

back on topic (lol) there's a question that come in mind:

This is the unmoderated thread... there's a topic?!?! ;-) lol

[Cyantist]

good try. ^_^

Anyway, no, i'm not from ng forum.
I don't even own a Neo Geo nor games.. i was just ... well i can't describe.
concerned about the picture
Posting that you sure have not be proud.
there is nothing funny or satirical in that photo

would aim to hit those who crying about insert and stuff (in your POV) but does ridiculing the victims of those diseases.
The only thing which is illustrated is how much is fascist the creator of the pic and how much is who spread it on the net.
just like the Anna Frank gag in the Griffin or something.

sure there's some other way to debate i hope.

Not trying to be offensive but I didn't understand a word of that, You went from explaining your situation to diseases and Anne Frank

[Cyantist]

AND SO ITS TIME FOR VIDEO GAME COLLECTING MANIA, GUEST HOSTED BY THE ASSEMBLER

OUR FIRST BOUT

Lol, look who's talking! ;-)

I'm not saying any of us are any better off when we ALL argue (LeGit will gladly call himself an idiot, too :P ). I'm saying that this specific argument is PARTICULARLY stupid.

Battle of the 'Whos a more argumentive bastard'
Retro VS Alchy. No doubt the finish to the match will involve a run in featuring LeGIt

Fortunately, I don't need to gain your respect to be respected in the video game collectors' World, i already am. Not by everyone of course, but no one is, otherwise it'd be a fucking hypocrite. :)

Second Bout of the night
Who has a bigger fucking ego!

Adol VS Dion
Both have undoubtably huge fucking ego's but who will win the championship?

Its times like these I wish I still had photoshop to knock up a poster.

Actually, We have pictures of Dion, Do any exist of Adol, Alchy and Retro? I might give it a go on fireworks at school tomorrow.

[Dion]

Thread gone wrong thanks to a few
Guys, this thread was actually very adult and mature until Andre and Sylvio (Adol) jumped in and got carried away. Even as they weren't being completely honest, I don't hold any ill feelings towards the brothers Adol.

Let bygones be bygones
Andre and Sylvio didn't need to give false claims of never receiving the game, the game having 40 wires, the game having eproms, sending the game back and receiving a partial refund, him being a lawyer, him being a notary cleark, him being an estate lawyer, or whatever. Let's not focus on his employment or any of his false claims. I'm willing to ignore his false statements and move forward for the good of future discussions.


Refund worthy
I think Andre and Sylvio are just missing some point on NGF being official and his right to return an item he damaged, and if we have any legal obligation to grant a refund when the buyer deliberately damaged the item.

Andre claims he purchased a game, opened it up, and in doing so, damaged and tore the sticker. He then wants to return the item and receive a full refund?? That is not how it works, nor was NeoGeoFreak/NGF-USA legally obligated to accept the damaged item and issue a full refund.

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Purposely Damaged = Void
I spoke about the ordeal with my business partner. He said not not issue the refund and void your option because you damaged the cartridge casing, tore off the sticker, and could have potentially damaged the boards, by accident or on purpose.

Executive Decision
I took it upon myself to make an executive decision, and not listen to what Chris had suggested. So my personal offer to you was for a partial refund. You and your brother did many transactions with us, so I valued you as a customer.

How could Andre, Sylvio, or anyone else expect anything in terms of an exchange or refund, let a lone a full refund for an item they purposely damaged? Not place that I know of allows for refunds on video games in general.

Resolved
Andre and Sylvio, in case you guys forgot, you purchased from NGF many times after the shock troopers incident, which obviously means it was resolved satisfactory for either you or your brother.

Can everyone please move past this? This thread is becoming a bash fest and starting to resemble the childish attitudes and behaviors ng.com members (and everyone knows I haven't visited or posted at ng.com in 10 years)(i would never waste my time there)
Let's all let the next person rant and make something up. I'll still be willing to hear any case and offer my input and rebuttals.
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[retro]

AND SO ITS TIME FOR VIDEO GAME COLLECTING MANIA, GUEST HOSTED BY THE ASSEMBLER

OUR FIRST BOUT


Battle of the 'Whos a more argumentive bastard'
Retro VS Alchy. No doubt the finish to the match will involve a run in featuring LeGIt

Lol, it's a close call... especially with LeGit in the mix ;-)


[quote=Cyantist[Actually, We have pictures of Dion, Do any exist of Adol, Alchy and Retro? I might give it a go on fireworks at school tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

Certainly there are pics of Legit and I, even one or two with us both in the same photo! Neither of us were doing an impression of the guy on the cover of Fatal Fury like Dion, though - we're both fat bastards! ;-)



;-)

I get the feeling you'll always see such behaviour in this thread sadly, Dion. Then again, it's the unmoderated thread, so that's up to them. I think we're all growing tired of it, though, so the best thing to do is just ignore it.

[Adol]

Ok, I'm done, "you win." It's guys like you who discourage me from taking the time to do any of this stuff.

The rest of you can read my prior posts to get an idea for why the Neo community feels the way they do about these guys. There are other detailed resources on the net that can illuminate you further. If you don't care to do that, well, good for you, I don't really care.

I follow you on this. Retro,LeGIt, you win.
Get fucked if you want to, i won't care anymore.

Retro, i'm only Andre, my twin doesn't post on forums for years now.
Yes, Retro, i wrote that i don't remember tearing the stickers, and i still don't. I stand to my declarations, and am still waiting proof of it.
Please, you or Dion, provide them. Thanks.

LeGIT, you're really the legendary cunt people say you are, you well deserve your reputation and title, congrats. But you're also a liar, who cannot honor his words. You clearly have no idea what "case closed" mean.

Dion, continue your scams, by selling manuals or whatever.
I just really hope you don't scam people abour real estate the way you forged your scamming legend in the Neo Geo World.

That is my final post on the matter (unlike LeGIt)
More by email if you want, but not here. Done with fascism and nazism.

[LeGIt]

LeGIT, you're really the legendary cunt people say you are, you well deserve your reputation and title, congrats.

Why thank you! Those are the kindest words I've heard all week.

But you're also a liar, who cannot honor his words. You clearly have no idea what "case closed" mean.

FYI this is funny for at least three reasons. The case closed element is with regards to my opinion of you and my particular disability comes with an almost pathological sense of honesty. Lastly, you had a snipe at me after I went then rambled more nonsense which spurred me to come back, in part because I find you amusing but in part because I also seek the truth AND proof. By your definition will you 'lie' by responding some more?

That is my final post on the matter (unlike LeGIt)
More by email if you want, but not here. Done with fascism and nazism.

Adol the only one ever talking about Nazism here was you. I talked about a man with a similar name equally foolish behaviour, you're talking about the 'machine'. They are related of course, but certainly not the same thing. I told you this already but as is often the case you refuse to listen then ramble like a fool, skipping relevant questions along the way too. Convenient huh?

Also Adol, fascism is about mandatory conformism in a way and by one definition you sort of demanded we conformed to your view of Dion with no proof that you were ever scammed and you repeatedly lied or told halth truths so yeah... at least you have given up so we can speak to someone who may see sense.

Sadly the only one of you Neo folk who seemed reasonable thus far (geddon_jt) got unreasonably offended by a picture and has gone - I guess it is true what I said and the able bodied/minded are taking the greatest offense to it, not that I condoned it's use mind you.

As for your behaviour Adol, why behave like you do in the unmoderated thread? Just because there is no censorship from the site administration here doesn't mean you shouldn't have some self control too. You appear to behave politely elsewhere on the boards, but if you behaved anywhere near the idiot you were in here you would have probably been banned long ago. At least be consistent with your behaviour - I'm a cunt wherever I go! Have a think about that.

Also whislt we are discussing censorship and moderation, FYI ASSEMbler has no hidden agenda. People disobey the rules their posts may get deleted and they may be shown the door.

Actually, especially with regards to abusive rants, ASSEMbler's take on this is to let people hang themselves with their own words. I invite you to return to this thread in several years time and see if you still approve of your behaviour. Hopefully if you finally see sense on that day and we can be friends too, but until that time or you rant some more, farewell.

[ave]

This thread has went nuts. I have been following this "discussion" all along and it started out to be very interesting, then amusing, tiresome.

Lengthy responses from everywhere and no progress. I also don't understand why LeGIT tries (tried) to be the judge resolving an issue that happened between Dion and Adol 14 years ago. WTF? How should anyone of us know what exactly happened back then and decide who's right? Why should any of us be bothered anyway?

Oh, and this:

Adol the only one ever talking about Nazism here was you. I talked about a man with a similar name equally foolish behaviour, you're talking about the 'machine'.

Could you guys please stop? It goes like "Adol: Nazism" - "Legit: I just talked about the man with a similar name" for 10 out of 16 pages or so.
It was a stupid idea from the beginning, can't you just keep it at that? I doubt anybody here believes you're obsessed with nazism like Adol points out every five minutes. But it would help if you'd finally admit that it was kindergarten level to call him "Adolf". I don't think such childish manners are necessary here, especially not from a moderator. Seriously, "Adol sounds like Adolf, I'll call you Adolf lolololol" - WTF? Where am I here, 4chan?

Then again people are calling each other idiots, cunts, twats and whatnot. Finally a traditional Neo Geo discussion like in the good old days :dance:

[LeGIt]

Lengthy responses from everywhere and no progress. I also don't understand why LeGIT tries (tried) to be the judge resolving an issue that happened between Dion and Adol 14 years ago. WTF? How should anyone of us know what exactly happened back then and decide who's right? Why should any of us be bothered anyway?

Because I'm trying to make sense of the bullshit, cut the crap and understand the truth (the same as some other people here)!

The catch is since Adol showed up we just got another 10 pages of bullshit and still no proof for his story, in fact he even refused to prove it :(

Seriously, "Adol sounds like Adolf, I'll call you Adolf lolololol" - WTF? Where am I here, 4chan?

Alas my point was bigger than the name as I did say on occasion with regards to a foolish conquest and there was no lololol. I have no moderator status in here (as I have also stated more than once) so I should not be frowned upon any more than someone else for doing so. It made sense to me, you don't have to agree with it ;)

Then again people are calling each other idiots, cunts, twats and whatnot. Finally a traditional Neo Geo discussion like in the good old days :dance:

Happy to be of service!

[neozeed]

Why don't you all just all meet up and have the straightener!! Instead of all the bitchin and shit flinging from behind the keyboards lol.

[Alchy]

Why don't you all just all meet up and have the straightener!! Instead of all the bitchin and shit flinging from behind the keyboards lol.

Because this is what Dion does to people who disagree with him in person:



He can call me a "keyboard warrior" if he likes, but I'll be fucked if I'm flying out to Vegas to be put in a headlock by a guy whose only real claim to fame is being a former NeoGeo salesman. Even I don't take arguments that seriously.

[Dion]

You guys can't be serious with some of the stories you come up with.
(my claim to fame is being very successful in my entire life, not just neogeo).

That photo was orchestrated and staged for the camera.
We all shared a good laugh and said "Watch, people will all freak out and post about it for years!!' lol
Sure enough, that was back in 2002, almost an entire decade has passed and people still talk about it.
Sheer genius on our part.


Yes, I can handle myself in a face to face confrontation, but that doesn't mean I am looking to "settle" any arguments with a physical altercation. I will only react to someone if they tried to instigate bodily harm.

Here are some more photos for people to edit in photoshop and/or talk about.

Here I am with the baddest man on the planet, Fedor Emelianenko


Dion Dakis and Ken Shamrock in 1995


Dion Dakis and Jacki Chan


Dion Dakis with Kevin Randleman


Frank Trigg with Dion Dakis


Dion Dakis with 6time Mr. Olympia, Dorian Yates



I'm sure some people are going to hate on these photos, instead of being happy, that as a fan, I was fortunate to be able to meet and take photos with various people.
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[neozeed]

Dorian Yates...Cool his Gym Temple gym was not far from me in Birmingham.

[Alchy]

That photo was orchestrated and staged for the camera.

Sheer Genius!

Riiiight.

I wonder what it's like to live life as a pathological liar. You're a strange little man, Dion Dakis.

[Dion]

Riiiight.

I wonder what it's like to live life as a pathological liar. You're a strange little man, Dion Dakis.

Still got you guys speculating.
I'm happy to see this promotional photo is still doing it's job and keeping the crowd talking. And what am I lying about in regards to that photo?


Since NGF is no longer doing neogeo business, I'll elaborate on the photo as I have also been elaborating on our profits, purchases, stock buy out, arts and sketches, etc....


Let's look at the photo



Lack of motion blurs
Look at the picture carefully.... no motion being displayed (no blurs) from myself, the other person, or even the person's hair. Everything is perfectly still. We all posed for the camera. "Cheese!!!"

If it wasn't staged, do you think I would have let the person take and/or get away with that photo??. It's so obvious that everyone was in on the joke (like fake pro wrestling). It still has some of you talking.

Tank-top: It's clearly a staged photo.
In no other photo am I wearing only a tank top. I removed my shirt and wore only my tank-top undershirt for this particular photo. Anyone with a rational thought process can figure it out and notice all the various subtleties.

Don't believe all the nonsense and false rumors that ng.com perpetuated all these years.
Those guys had no idea what NGF was all about, and they were just on a blind fury.
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[Buyatari]

Lol, it's a close call... especially with LeGit in the mix ;-)




Certainly there are pics of Legit and I, even one or two with us both in the same photo! Neither of us were doing an impression of the guy on the cover of Fatal Fury like Dion, though - we're both fat bastards! ;-)

Here use this one instead. Now you can create your own text.