Last edited by marshallh; 08-05-2011 at 04:29 PM.
Can an uncut case be fitted when only using a MicroSD card? If the top hole is exposed when only using a MicroSD an awful lot of dust is going to accumulate inside the device, over time.
Unless you game in a cleanroom, dust, cosmic debris, and your own dead skin cells will forever coat and invade every nook and crack in every single piece of gaming hardware you own; this is gaming law.
WMD, if you plan to just use MicroSD only, you can request that the casing isn't cut at the top for Compact Flash.
I'll be getting a chunk of change come the 17th and again 9/17. I don't usually make purchases this large but for this I think I'll make an exception.
And a Pioneer Laseractive to start making efforts on getting LD-ROMs dumped.
Any differences in performance/speed when using CF vs MicroSD? If not, why was CF used in the first place? Aren't CF Cards much more expensive?
CF was used initially for a few reasons unless I'm much mistaken:
* Initially the idea was to stream ROMs from the memory card, SD wasn't fast enough for this (and neither was CF ultimately)
* Compact Flash was easier to develop an interface for/support
* Compact Flash didn't cost anything to support, whereas 4-bit transfer mode on SD required some $2k license, (though I believe marshall has gone with an unofficial 4-bit transfer mode)
I think there were more but unfortunately the benheck thread that archived all of the 64drive progress is gone for the time being :(
As for CF being more expensive, I agree, it is more expensive, perhaps because of its lack of popularity.
CF is much faster than how you transfer data to/from SD cards (CF is compatible with PATA, the old IDE hard drive interface) and is used in the high definition digital camcorders that they film TV shows with, though you generally need the 'ultra high speed' CF cards so they don't lag and screw up whilst recording.
Given the size of the current "complete" N64 rom set isn't very large to start with using a single CF card isn't too big of a deal. If someone can afford the $200 price tag for a 64drive ponying up an additional $20-50 for a X capacity CF card shouldn't be too big a deal IMO. Like buying a Ferrari and complaining that gas and insurance are expensive...
And yes, CF is compatible with IDE of old due it having ATA controllers built into every CF card. In fact I have an old Nomad Jukebox that I swapped the original 2.5" laptop drive out for a 4gb CF card. Battery life went from 3 hours to at least the 8 hours I've personally clocked it at without any sign of running out of juice.
I think the concept of including the microSD is more than validated just based on the sole idea the cartridge would not actually need a slot. It's a clean presentation and I like that.
Nevertheless, especially on these larger ROM sizes, I will always be using CF for a much faster transfer/load time. Serial SD vs Parallel CF is a no-brainer, at least for me. I'm not sure what the microSD transfer methods will be or how much the SDHC classes will affect performance, but I'm already thinking about the bigger titles (128, 256, etc). From my experience with noticing obvious loading differences in other CF and SD flash carts, with their much smaller NES, SNES, or Genesis ROMs, I suspect there will be a huge difference.
Well, in counterargument, if you are gonna get down with one game for awhile (days, weeks, etc), you technically only would need to flash it once (or until you flash another). At this point, there is hardly an argument over seconds/minutes. As far as frequent homebrew cycles though, or just plowing through games, the argument has its place.
I don't even know why I'm making these points, slightly pointless, eh? I just want the 64drive already! I can't wait to rock some kiosk demos :D
Last edited by Loogs; 08-05-2011 at 01:48 AM.
Last edited by link83; 08-05-2011 at 02:43 AM.
cant wait for the microsd version. i so many of these cards laying around, i dont know what to do with them.
Last edited by Cabanon; 08-05-2011 at 08:10 AM.
MicroSD and CF are running the same speed now, 9mbyte/sec.
The cartridge boots from CF if found, otherwise it falls back to SD. This means you can leave the microSD card in there. I still prefer CF for being easy to handle (I dropped a microsd card behind my desk and spent a while looking for it, hehe)
So far I have tested with 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, and 8gb cards. Should work with everything up to 32gb
edit: thanks arbin for testing 8gb
Last edited by marshallh; 08-05-2011 at 02:02 PM.
Fantastic :-) So I guess it can access both the CompactFlash and microSD slots at the same time?
Last edited by link83; 08-05-2011 at 01:27 PM.
...and copy files from CF to SD and vice versa directly on N64?
(the way you worded it sounds like you figure it would display all the roms on both the CF and the microSD at the same time - correct me if you intended otherwise).
Sorry for not reading the entire thread, but how much will it cost?
Last edited by arbingordon; 08-05-2011 at 11:10 PM.