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    TSOP Flash Tool

    Anyone have a wiring diagram for a TSOP programmer?

    I've got a box here with a bad flash. Perfect hardware, just a bad flash. And I'd like to get it repaired.

    Failing that, anyone have a source for an old style 26 wire modchip and the associated programmer?

    Thanks in advance.

    -hl718

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    Well installing a modchip basically replaces the tsop. So get a duox on their with cromwell then flash your hacked or dev bios

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEo
    Well installing a modchip basically replaces the tsop. So get a duox on their with cromwell then flash your hacked or dev bios
    If I use a chip I need to be able to disable it on the fly (as can be done with the original 26 wire chip) after boot and then reflash the TSOP properly. I didn't think any of the "smart" mod chips with multiple banks could do this, if they even work with the MCPX X2 boards. Don't they require MCPX X3 boards?

    It's more a matter of just wanting to restore an otherwise fine piece of hardware.

    -hl718

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    Hmm,do you mean 29 wire modchip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikkon
    Hmm,do you mean 29 wire modchip.
    That's probably correct. I never had the need to deal with chips for retail systems. Got the box from a friend awhile back. Some idiot tried to flash a EvoX BIOS to it. Of course that didn't work.

    By the time I got it the 29 wire chips had already been phased out by resellers and I'd been advised that the new "smart" chips wouldn't work on a X2 board, let alone the fact that they can't simply be shut off on-the-fly. As a result the box sat in a box.

    I'm being told that I need to make space though so that means either fix it or kick it and I'd much rather fix it. ;)

    Since I know exactly what the problem is, I also know that reflashing a proper BIOS will revive the board. It's just a matter of figuring out the easiest way of getting the BIOS onto the TSOP. Were I a bit better at soldering I'd just flash the BIOS I need to a retail system and then swap the TSOP chips but sadly, I can't hand solder surface mount. Just not that good.

    -hl718

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    You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikkon
    Those chips bring back such bad, bad, memories.

    Best of luck installing one hl7 ;p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doom
    Those chips bring back such bad, bad, memories.

    Best of luck installing one hl7 ;p.

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    I could solder the points fine, the amount of wires and mess it created was impossible to manage though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikkon
    is that the only way to fix the TSOP? I have a DVT4 that apperently have been through lots of stuff (before anyone asks this was done but the previous owner and not me, I take care of my stuff ;) ) and are need of a reflash of the TSOP..
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    Quote Originally Posted by babu
    is that the only way to fix the TSOP? I have a DVT4 that apperently have been through lots of stuff (before anyone asks this was done but the previous owner and not me, I take care of my stuff ;) ) and are need of a reflash of the TSOP..
    Well you could always desolder the chip, reflash it in a programmer and then resolder it. ;)

    The chip Pikkon linked should do the job, assuming one can get a dev BIOS into the 512k bank. After all the chips don't ship programmed.

    -hl718

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    Christ why are you getting a 29wire chip when a 1 wire one does the job. Well not one wire but still its 1 if you only count the D0 point since the rest of the conections go on the LPC.

    get a duox chip and flash what you need

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEo
    Christ why are you getting a 29wire chip when a 1 wire one does the job. Well not one wire but still its 1 if you only count the D0 point since the rest of the conections go on the LPC.

    get a duox chip and flash what you need
    It was always my understanding that if you boot the system via a chip connected to the LPC port that any attempt to flash will flash the chip on the LPC and not the TSOP.

    So while a LPC chip would allow one to get the system up and running (you'd still have to program it outside the system on an external programmer) I don't believe it would allow you to return the system to "stock" condition, which you could do with a 29 wire connection.

    -hl718

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEo
    Christ why are you getting a 29wire chip when a 1 wire one does the job. Well not one wire but still its 1 if you only count the D0 point since the rest of the conections go on the LPC.

    get a duox chip and flash what you need
    I need to read a little more before I post :DOH: I missed your second post, ignore that post^

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEo
    I need to read a little more before I post :DOH: I missed your second post, ignore that post^
    No worries. It happens. I've made the same mistake before.

    For most situations something like the DuoX is ideal. Unfortunately I have one of those "non-ideal" situations. ;)

    -hl718

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    You can flash tsop with lpc modchip, but not sure if it'll work on debug/devkit...
    http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=459116 - guide here, basically flash special bios, remove chip after boot, flash bios to tsop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuKzz
    You can flash tsop with lpc modchip, but not sure if it'll work on debug/devkit...
    http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=459116 - guide here, basically flash special bios, remove chip after boot, flash bios to tsop.
    Retail BIOS will not work on a dev kit.

    That's what messed up this one in the first place (as mentioned earlier in the thread). ;)

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    Soldering is not so bad. I use acrylic to hold down the strands real nice.

    Traces on xbox are huge compared to doing a ps2 slim.

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