FS: My beloved PSYQ Megadrive 32x. Going on ebay..

[madhatter256]

monday, item will be up on ebay.

Up on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8150822092

[madhatter256]

added pictures.

[Evangelion-01]

what is that :D?

[Calpis]

Basically a 32 megabit SRAM cartridge.

[madhatter256]

Yes and no. From what I could gather. The chips you see there are there to let the programmer find bugs in the code if a problem arises.

[Calpis]

Sorry but the chips I see aren't "debugging chips." I'm not positive but I don't think it has ANY debugging functions. From the looks of it, it can load object code like games into it's memory and run it. It can also backup games (to study other people's code e.g. reverse engineer, not pirate :) All the development is done solely on a personal computer, the value of Psy-Q kits was in their proprietary software (Assemblers etc) and system documentation, hardly the hardware. To truely debug effectively, the device would need to constantly monitor the system's processors. I don't believe this cartridge can unless the "qlogic" FPGA holds some secrets. The cartridge does have a ROM though so it must have some features I'm unaware of however. Doesn't sound like you've gotten much use out of it :)

[AntiPasta]

Sorry but the chips I see aren't "debugging chips." I'm not positive but I don't think it has ANY debugging functions. From the looks of it, it can load object code like games into it's memory and run it. It can also backup games (to study other people's code e.g. reverse engineer, not pirate :) All the development is done solely on a personal computer, the value of Psy-Q kits was in their proprietary software (Assemblers etc) and system documentation, hardly the hardware. To truely debug effectively, the device would need to constantly monitor the system's processors. I don't believe this cartridge can unless the "qlogic" FPGA holds some secrets. The cartridge does have a ROM though so it must have some features I'm unaware of however. Doesn't sound like you've gotten much use out of it :)

Well, it having a ROM makes sense as there needs to be some kind of host program to initiate the transfer of data from the PC into SRAM.

[Brian_Provinciano]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure I saw that same unit on ebay not long ago. I don't recall it going for nearly that price.

[RenesisX]

I sold one of those on eBay for £500 about 6 years ago.

It's just an SRAM cart. It should come with SNSys's SCSI card and cable, plus a bunch of DOS software.

You plug it in the top of the MD/32X and you can download the ROM image to the cart and test it. I believe you can probably debug it too, but I don't remember.

The socket on the side is for plugging in a standard MD/32X cart - you can then "dump" the ROM from that cart from what I remember.

SNSys had some of the rarest kit I'd ever seen down at their dev office in the old days. They used to get the very earliest prototypes of everything from Sony and Sega. I remember some great 32X prototypes - one was called "The Fridge" and it was the size of a small fridge (that was the first 32X prototype Sega produced) and the next ones were called "The Pizzabox" - these were more like the size of a Sparc 5 workstation.

SN put most of this stuff in the bin :( A sad story.

I remember going down there once and they remembered that I wanted a SNES dev kit. I believe they must have manufactured them in Scotland at the time as they made a hurried call to their factory to find out what they'd done with the *200* left over SNES kits they had. Sadly they'd put them in a skip the day before and the skip had just been collected! I could have cried!

Ah, those were the days!

[AntiPasta]

hi, welcome to the board :smt023
It always pains me to hear of dev stuff being skipped yeah :smt009

Oh and by the way, 500 quid is a ripoff price, pardon me saying. I saw one of these on ebay.de for 99e and it didn't sell!

[RenesisX]

Oh and by the way, 500 quid is a ripoff price, pardon me saying. I saw one of these on ebay.de for 99e and it didn't sell!

Yeah, but this was 6 or 7 years ago - I don't think there had ever been an MD dev kit on eBay before when I sold that one. It was complete too - with the SCSI card, cable, PSU, all the software (I persuaded the nice guys at SN to give me access to their FTP) and I think I might have thrown in the source to Judge Dredd on the MD too.

Anyway, it's worth whatever anyone is willing to pay for it ;)

[madhatter256]

So I take it the price I'm asking for is too high?

[Calpis]

Well, it having a ROM makes sense as there needs to be some kind of host program to initiate the transfer of data from the PC into SRAM.

Not necessarily, likely the SRAM is programmed outside the system.

madhatter256: I wouldn't think your asking price is too high if you actually paid around that much and aren't trying to pull off a adam-james. Your kit is only 25% complete so take that into consideration. Don't loose money but don't expect too much when some people apparently saw you buy it for much less recently on eBay.

[madhatter256]

Well $220 is the amount of money I paid for it after shipping. It was $160 on german ebay. I might have gotten screwed in shipping but I'll think of something.

[Tomcat]

Ive got the normal megadrive psy-q I paid about £100 for it with docs and stuff (nice little folder with instructions sega.doc and some music docs)

let me know if u get desperate to sell

[einbebop44]

Sorry to go off on a small rant here, but it seems people 'round here oftentimes shoot down other's prices, saying they are too high. It appears to be because they want the item for cheaper, so they throw all these figures out and stuff. Not pointing fingers, just saying...it occurs with the dev stuff, where the price varies. :smt083

[LeGIt]

Sometimes the prices are insane though, but i believe no one here would knock it down purely to get it cheaper, but they truly believe it's a lot more than they think it's worth so they won't pay that much :smt023 Dev stuff is hard to value mostly due to rarity and the only real guidelines are the prices other people have paid for similar items

[Greatsaintlouis]

We're all pretty honest here, hence why you won't see anyone saying, "Nah, that's only worth $25. Sell it to me?" on this item. However, there are times (and this isn't the case, madhatter is indeed making little to no profit) where prices are retarded - be it the time Kyuusaku mentioned where a guy bought a whole spindle of GD-R discs from a member, marked them up 10 pounds, and turned around to try and sell them back to the board, or the time someone came in offering Gamecube NR readers for $250 that he was going to throw away if they didn't sell, but wouldn't sell them for any less than $250. Most of the people here on the board know the value of items - either the item's intrinsic value to them or the value of similar items in other transactions they've seen or been a part of, and nobody here is hesitant to call bullshit on outrageous prices.

Not that this price is outrageous, I'm just saying why some of us are so eager to knock prices on things for sale.

[einbebop44]

I know most of you guys are honest, but I'm just getting this sort of dirty vibe. I'm sure you know of what I speak. I'd just prefer if people didn't say "Oh that's worth $100 yadadada no one bid yadada" It just gets old.

I think it's just best if people say whether they are interested or not, and discuss through PM about the price. :smt023

As opposed to all this other stuff. Especially in the case where someone such as madhatter isn't trying to make a profit. In the case of the GD-Rs, that's a wholly different story. ;-)

[madhatter256]

I understand that a lot of us here don't make a lot of money, not even assembler himself, so of course we will all be skeptical on the asking price.

I'm just trying to get back what I put in towards getting it due to current situations.

If I wanted to make a profit. I would say this:


"make me an offer" :smt043