That was some funny shit. It really made my day. :clap:
That was some funny shit. It really made my day. :clap:
I knew it was BS, but one thing I will say.
It's not on the grand scale that the website protrayed, but Sega has been continuing, and been the leader in the arcade industry.
I agree they've been out of the console race for awhile, and don't have many good games except for a few from their original studios like Yakuza and Valkeria Chronicles.
that said not only have they been making money in the arcade but their arcade games are really good games.
Now we all know the arcade in the USA is fairly dead, although there are still locations in the states getting the latest and greatest, but they are few and far between.
It does seem that Sega is trying to turn the arcade industry around.
I don't think that they'll turn the industry on it's head with the "Model 4" messiah, (as much as I would love that)
but I do think that it is possible for them to bring back the arcade's.
Everyone here is talking about home consoles, I think that is WAAAAY premature.
There is no way in hell they can come back with a console until they come bring the arcade back, and then they'd have something exclusive that the other companies didn't.
I don't think it's super probable, but it is possible.
You might say "no one gives a damn about the arcades"
but the thing that made the arcade's great in the first place is that they offered something that you couldn't get at home. If they could capture that again, and then have exclusivity for home console ports.
Or as the website said, release home console versions of their arcades that could do things that the Xbox 3 and PS4 couldn't do, then MAYBE then they'd have a chance at home consoles again.
As for a network, it'd take a huge push for them to make a fully fledged one that rivaled Xbox Live. But this is Sega, the first people to have internet enabled consoles out of the box, Their arcade ALL.NET system is pretty robust, and impressive to think they have networking even in the arcade's.
I have confidence that with the little talent left at Sega, and people in the industry that remember the good old days and would help, it could happen.
I know it sounds crazy, but the idea of Nintendo outselling Sony and Microsoft was a laughable idea.
The fact is, they can't play it safe and make a comeback. To comeback, they'd need to pull off a minor miracle, and get some new talent (Yu Sazuki is getting old)
a few months ago, Sega was dead to me too, I didn't see them making that many great games.
But look at their core studios, they are still going strong and have great variety and potential
AM2 --- Action/Fighting (After Burner, Virtua Fighter)
AM3 --- Racing (Sega Rally, Initial D)
AM4 --- Adventure (Panzer Dragoon, Yakuza)
and AM7 --- Role Playing (Skies of Arcadia, Valkeria Chronicles)
With Capcom backing them, they'd be a arcade gamer's dream and have a little something special left over for everyone.
The RingEdge has underwhelming tech specs, but if you look at Border Break (which uses a joystick, mouse, and touchscreen) and Shining Force Cross ( Monster Hunter anyone?) , you can see that they are offering deep and unique experiences in the arcades that are aware of their contemporaries on the console.
In other words, they're still relevant to gamers today, they aren't still trying to make games from the 90s, they are trying to be cutting edge and I believe succeeding, I just hope that we can see success in this. I'm not going to hold my breath, but how could I NOT want to see a revival here in the USA where arcades are so dead compared to Japan.
Last edited by Panzer88; 02-09-2010 at 07:50 AM.
I love to see a new sega branded console
Isn't going to happen, come on. They struck lucky wth the Mega Drive and fucked up twice since then. Arcades are irrelevant now. My life used to be Sega, now I look at it just assume the game that the logo is slapped on is probably a pile of toss.
And this same site that annouces the "Ring edge" Claims the Model 4 is coming?
COUGHBULLSHITCOUGH
Arcades aren't Irrelevent just...in need of something we can't get at home..and nobody can really think of what that is exactly
Ok then, redundant. They stopped being relevant to gaming a while ago. Arcade games were what console games aspired to be; the Dreamcast marled the beginning of this ceasing to be the case. Games are trending towards 'experiences' with no lives and little penalties. Older arcade games were testing your skill and finesse at the game that you had learnt. get it wrong and you were punished. Attitudes and expectations have changed.
I havent seen a new arcade cabinet for a long time.
I've seen a Tekken 6 BR cab in a mall arcade near by.
Arcades and game makers need to stress the social aspect of the arcade You can play with people on XBOX live over a T1 line but it's not the same as having somebody right there.
The Wii has a social aspect but The Wii kinda sucks.
Those massive games in Japan with cards and shit like that really need to catch on here
The Wii has Tatsunoko vs Capcom last I checked, therefore it can't suck even for you.
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Which won't matter once I get it working in DolphinOriginally Posted by Barc0de
it will. i don't think it will run full speed. Some games do mind you, like muramasa, but there are bugs/loops that affect gameplay later on,making them unplayable after a certain point.
Just buy a used Wii,let it go!
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You can ask for an army of ants
You can ask for a pillar of poison
You can ask for sheep and shavers
And you can die for
Be careful what you wish for
When I try to run it I get this
But Not really asking for help on there... I've said too much even saying I'm trying to run in it dolphin. Bleach GC didn't run AS WELL as I hoped it would either (Gamecube game I've wanted for like EVER but could never find)
Are you saying all games and all gamers are like that?
What about Call of Duty? What about Street Fighter 4? What about BlazBlue? What about Gran Turismo?
these games still pride themselves on being hardcore, and they're also still popular.
As for new arcade machines, it's not like the old days when they were in malls everywhere, but they are there.
I remember travelling across the USA in 2006 and seeing House of the Dead 3, Ghost Squad, Time Crisis 3, etc.
Since then I've seen Time Crisis 4. Mainly these are in places like Travel America.
There is also a family fun center (pool, mini golf, etc) not even 30 minutes from my house that is full of arcades.
They have Mario Kart GP, Tekken 5, After Burner Climax (when I went there that game was only several months old, I was shocked)
Arcades aren't dead, but they are crippled, (In the USA that is, I went to japan in 2006 and the arcade scene was bigger than I'd ever seen it even in the USA) that doesn't mean that they couldn't come back.
They could still do things that you can't do at home, or at least not easily, or most people can't financially.
As for experiences, playing a racing game on a crappy tv with a controller is nothing like sitting in a big moving arcade cab, you could be a shitty gamer, or it could be a casual or hardcore arcade racer, either way you're having a blast and getting your money's worth.
Think about it, I'm not saying they are going to come back with a bang, but for all our sakes I hope they do make some ground in this endeavor.
Last edited by Panzer88; 02-09-2010 at 05:00 AM.
@randyrandall
True. Anyone can pick up a game nowadays and be able to play it, but that's just because the market has changed and companies know they won't sell much if they don't allow everyone to have fun.
Have the average Joe play me in CS and then we can talk about "skill and finesse".
It's still there, but it's more open.
Anyways.
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Someone said Sega failed after the Mega Drive.
Maybe in the west, but not completely. Not like Atari.
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Someday I ll get myself a twin SegaRally2 cab..:(
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You can ask for an army of ants
You can ask for a pillar of poison
You can ask for sheep and shavers
And you can die for
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You and me both.
Actually their arcade fire seems to be dwindling... VF5 not as popular as 4... other games, while good, simply don't draw in as many people. Arcades in general (yes, even in Japan).that said not only have they been making money in the arcade but their arcade games are really good games.
I think the whole "skill" thing was to get you to pop more quarters in the machine. And face it the average modern day gamer wants more for less money, and doesn't want it to be hard apparently.
But what about the Japanese market? Wasn't Metal Gear Arcade just announced at E3 last year or something?
Besides, I doubt the average gamer even thinks when he's playing a game. Just full on zombie mode lol. j/k? IDK , I don't know any average gamers except for the morons who play Online games. (this isn't saying everyone who does is, but a lot of people online act like condescending douche bags are just plain flat out stupid as a rock.)
Last edited by Vosse; 02-09-2010 at 09:41 PM.
Let's Go Jungle is actually a pretty big hit wherever it is found.
I got lets go jungle, and i have to say that the game is pretty good, same for after burner climax or initial d4, i dont know if those games are popular or arcades, but those are really good games
Sure, I can accept new games are still released and popular in certain markets.. but they are no longer the driving force. Home games used to be very arcade-esque, even down to lives and conitunes in some (eg Streets of Rage) and that was a very common style. Now the player isnt penalised as much, to keepmthem playing. I agree, its obviously in the vain to keep them putting coins in the machine, but the home game has thus become more forgiving and more rewarding.. just my opinion :)
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