PS3 death clock

[Christer-swe]

Think about it. The PS3 is the most popular console right here. Parents even buy there 8 year olds a PS3 in stead of a Wii just because they think it's the only real console on the market.

I doubt that tiny minority has a real impact on the market. But I'd love to see proof to prove me wrong. Otherwise you might not want to generalize your experience on all of Europe. :thumbsup:

[Giel]

for me the ps3 feels like a neogeo all again too expensive for the massmarket

Last time I checked, you can get a PS3 for ~300 euro right now? A Wii is 250 and it's the console every and their mom can afford so I doubt the PS3 is too expensive. It still has an expensive feeling for some reason though.

[zappenduster]

Last time I checked, you can get a PS3 for ~300 euro right now? A Wii is 250 and it's the console every and their mom can afford so I doubt the PS3 is too expensive. It still has an expensive feeling for some reason though.

for me the prices where 399 eu for the ps3 and 200 for a 360 thats nearly neogeo stage in germany

[andoba]

Last time I checked, you can get a PS3 for ~300 euro right now? A Wii is 250 and it's the console every and their mom can afford so I doubt the PS3 is too expensive. It still has an expensive feeling for some reason though.

The ones I've seen in my city go from 319€ (cheapest) to 599€ (most expensive).

[Taucias]

Quite. The Wii has TRUE support, and is superb. Microsoft haven't released an update in a year, which is disappointing, but there are still almost 500 games that are compatible, basically half of the Xbox library. The REALLY impressive thing is that an unreleased game is on the list!!!

Hard to screw up emulation when you're running a faster version of the exact same hardware though :lol:

Unrelated to the above quote: The PS3 will be profitable this coming quarter (by the end of the fiscal year) thanks to RSX die reduction down to 65nm (this month the first chips rolled off production).

We'll probably see another price cut within a couple of months.

[Parris]

I miss having backwards compatibility on the 360 in full, really pleased the Wii allows it and utterly pissed off that the PS3 doesn't have atleast PS2 bc. Sigh!

[Christer-swe]

Last time I checked, you can get a PS3 for ~300 euro right now? A Wii is 250 and it's the console every and their mom can afford so I doubt the PS3 is too expensive. It still has an expensive feeling for some reason though.

I haven't seen a PS3 for under €440 in stores. While 360's go for €170 and a Wii for €200.

[MottZilla]

I miss having backwards compatibility on the 360 in full, really pleased the Wii allows it and utterly pissed off that the PS3 doesn't have atleast PS2 bc. Sigh!

What do you mean "doesn't have atleast"? All PS3s run PS1 games. So how is it atleast? There's still the chance all PS3s will get PS2 support via software emulation in the future. But personally I don't see why it's a big deal. It's better to play on the original system as other than GBC and Wii, most backwards compatibility has noticable flaws. There are PS1 games I have that don't work right on PS2.

[Parris]

What do you mean "doesn't have atleast"? All PS3s run PS1 games. So how is it atleast? There's still the chance all PS3s will get PS2 support via software emulation in the future. But personally I don't see why it's a big deal. It's better to play on the original system as other than GBC and Wii, most backwards compatibility has noticable flaws. There are PS1 games I have that don't work right on PS2.

Sorry, badly written sentence. I had a Japanese PS3, which I sold to obtain a UK PS3 (wished I hadn't). I meant that of all the features removed, the one I would wish had not been was PS2 compatibility. I do miss it as I would like to be able to get rid of the PS2 from the TV stand. Just my personal opinion on bc. Less clutter. Same as with owning a Naomi 2 motherboard that is capable of playing N1 titles as it means I can leave the one device in the cabinet. Ergo, bc on the PS3 would have been equally useful.

However, have you attempted to play PS1 titles on the PS3? Ouch, the graphics look awful! So really at the moment I prefer to have a PS1 in the cabinet as well... double sigh!

[sh3-rg]

I don't like any of the platinum games and I only find shitty second hand games.

Really? I'd recommend Oblivion GOTY & Drake's Fortune - two games I think everyone should give a go. There's loads of cheap games for ps360 at amazon & play etc. Recently I've had the above two, Orange box £15, Lego Batman £17, LittleBigPlanet £16, Assasins Creed £10 - all plenty of game for the money. The new Tomb Raider was £18 recently but I passed on that one. I got Fallout 3 for Christmas so obviously none of those games above are going to get a look in for months.

As for on-topic: PS3 death clock?! haha, I think someone wanted to out this forum's fanboys or woke up with a touch for fanboymanflu (there's a lot of it going around). As for suggesting an arbitrary months left until death figure for any console - what's the point, really? The world is in such a fucked up state financially that even people who are supposed to know/care about stuff like that are not going to have the beginnings of a clue & probably have far more important things to worry about.

x360 has red rings, ps3 no games & wii is for 5 year olds/the mentally challenged, therefore playing games this generation is a waste of money/effort/life. They're all doomed & will be 3do'd in due course.

Back to sleep...

[PhreQuencYViii]

What do you mean "doesn't have atleast"? All PS3s run PS1 games. So how is it atleast? There's still the chance all PS3s will get PS2 support via software emulation in the future. But personally I don't see why it's a big deal. It's better to play on the original system as other than GBC and Wii, most backwards compatibility has noticable flaws. There are PS1 games I have that don't work right on PS2.

Well, I like BC because then I don't have to have so much hooked up. I figured PS3 BC would help me play PS2/PS1 better on my HDTV. When it works, the 360 does a great job with it's BC, and looks/shows up better through HDMI vs. an old Xbox hooked up over component.

[graciano1337]

x360 has red rings, ps3 no games & wii is for 5 year olds/the mentally challenged, therefore playing games this generation is a waste of money/effort/life. They're all doomed & will be 3do'd in due course.

Back to sleep...

geez... harsh...

[limey]

I meant that of all the features removed, the one I would wish had not been was PS2 compatibility. I do miss it as I would like to be able to get rid of the PS2 from the TV stand. Just my personal opinion on bc. Less clutter.

Absolutely. Watering down the PS3->PS2 BC was the one action that I personally disliked the most. Having said that, since my 60Gb US unit is now going to be difficult to replace like-with-like, I rarely use the bc capability, as I'd prefer to wear out a much easier to replace PS2 for this. Such is life. Pulling the bc, along with other cost reductions in the board/IC design has allowed Sony to save money & get closer to a more competitive pricing point, in what are turning out to be far more interesting times that anyone was prediciting a year or 2 ago.

Could they have saved more by pulling the multimedia capabilies? Well, with the initial cost of BluRay drives, yes/maybe. However, Sony's had a strategy of trying to make their consoles entertainment hubs since PS2 (with DVD thrown in) & I know plenty of folks for which the BluRay was a factor in their purchasing choice.

As for on-topic: PS3 death clock?! haha, I think someone wanted to out this forum's fanboys or woke up with a touch for fanboymanflu (there's a lot of it going around). As for suggesting an arbitrary months left until death figure for any console - what's the point, really? The world is in such a fucked up state financially that even people who are supposed to know/care about stuff like that are not going to have the beginnings of a clue & probably have far more important things to worry about.

Amen, brother! Couldn't have put it better myself.

[Alchy]

x360 has red rings, ps3 no games & wii is for 5 year olds/the mentally challenged, therefore playing games this generation is a waste of money/effort/life. They're all doomed & will be 3do'd in due course.

Back to sleep...

geez... harsh...

You do realise he was taking the piss, yes?

[Taucias]

I miss having backwards compatibility on the 360 in full, really pleased the Wii allows it and utterly pissed off that the PS3 doesn't have atleast PS2 bc. Sigh!

Shouldn't have cheaped out. My PS3 is almost 100% compatible ;-)

Unrelated to above: The PS3 was selling more than the XB360 prior to the price drop. Once Sony drop the price (~$300) it will ramp up sales again. This generation is price sensitive due to the high price of all consoles this time around combined with the economy.

Plus most of the great games that have been shown are hitting the shelves now or during 2009.

[wildcat]

retro,

I did miss the stats you had provided earlier on, sorry about that!

Most likely cause I quickly scanned this thread, I usual don't have much time on my hands. I'am not familar with NPD marketing corporation either. Whatever the case your post was bang on in this thread.

Barcode,

Thanks for your post with stats, nice post!

Parris,

I just thought you were being anti microsoft thats all.

Microsoft beat sony with ease sales wise! and than put out 2 more consoles to consolidate a better position in the market and there still holding the best fps console position that exist.

[retro]

retro,

I did miss the stats you had provided earlier on, sorry about that!

Most likely cause I quickly scanned this thread, I usual don't have much time on my hands. I'am not familar with NPD marketing corporation either. Whatever the case your post was bang on in this thread.

No worries! It's easy to do.

I'd be interested to know if anyone does chase up the stats thing as to how much it might cost. There's a possibility I'd get it in the future for a site I'd be running.

[Taucias]

80GB PS3 is now 300 Euros with 300 Blu-Ray movie in Belgium:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346430

[randyrandall]

Playstation has made its mark here in the 90's and it's very unlikely it will go away all of a sudden.

There's something horribly wrong with the way people think over here...

Are you including England in your sweeping statement? It seems the majority of people I know have an Xbox 360 and are very pleased with it- those who don't have one are envious and/or plan to get one. The only reason people have a PS3 seems to be due to 'hardcore' brand loyalty (e.g Playstation is better than Xbox because of X and X etc etc) who don't seem subject to reason or logic.

The 360 is the default 'cool' choice amongst teenagers in my view. The PS3 seems to be regarded as nonessential, apart from for the 'hardcore'/dedicated.

[rupert]

Are you including England in your sweeping statement? It seems the majority of people I know have an Xbox 360 and are very pleased with it- those who don't have one are envious and/or plan to get one. The only reason people have a PS3 seems to be due to 'hardcore' brand loyalty (e.g Playstation is better than Xbox because of X and X etc etc) who don't seem subject to reason or logic.

The 360 is the default 'cool' choice amongst teenagers in my view. The PS3 seems to be regarded as nonessential, apart from for the 'hardcore'/dedicated.

I disagree, I and the people I know who have bought PS3's have done so because they are a quality item. The 360 is cheap feeling and breaks down. I don't get all this talk of it having no games either, I have 7 great games for mine which should last me through to June I'm guessing (I'd say I spend maybe 8 - 10 hours per week gaming). I see it doesnt have as many games as the 360 but it doesnt really matter as i'm not going to play through the entire catalogue of games available.

anyway, the PS3 is not doing badly and is not going to die soon so get over it and just be happy with your 360's (there a nice little system when they work ;-) )

goes to dust off his flame cloak