PS3 death clock

[Jamtex]

PS3 is the worst selling console for Sony,even the PS2 sells better.If it gets worse they will pull the plug.The Wii will stay.

Oh put your brain into gear before typing, the PS2 worldwide has not outsold the PS3 since March and even then it was by a tiny ammount, since then the PS3 has been selling reasonably. Before you say well in America / Europe, a quick check of sales figures will still show the PS3 outselling the PS2. The Playstation 2 is a bread and butter machine now but the fact it's still selling and games are still being made does show like the PS1 did before it that there is still a market and Sony can sell both machines.

[Druid II]

dvd had clear benefits over VHS, the same cannot be said to the same extent when comparing DVD to HD video formats however

Then you never compared a DVD to a good quality HD movie. Or you only saw low-bitrate mpeg2 1080i HDTV transfers.

Seriously, the quality difference between HD and SD is at least as much as DVD to VHS.

Of course, it's true that HD movies don't introduce as many other elements to the mainstream as DVD did (menus, instant scene skipping, extras, better handling, superior soundtracks, etc). But quality wise, once you are used to HD quality, DVD will seem like a blurry pos.

This is provided you have a display for it, but you can easily use a PC monitor for this, that's what I do.

[Alchy]

All the doom and gloom PS3 comments kind of remind me of the ridiculous "OMG GMAING INDUSTRY ARE GOING TO DEAD" shit we had here a couple of years ago. It's odd and completely unjustified conjecture. The idea that Sony would abandon their lead platform (and their trojan horse Blu-Ray player) when sales are on a par with their nearest competitor is fucking stupid, and I'm tired of reading it.

If you think the PS3 is dead in the water then you have to accept that the 360 is too. They have both shipped a similar number of units, and the 360 had a year's head start. I like my 360, and it's got a lot of play recently, but at some point past the age of 13 you have to stop bashing the competition just because you don't own one.

I'm not trying to point to anyone in particular on this, except maybe Yakumo, but I think he's pretty much used to the accusations of favouritism at this stage. The fact is that the PS3 has sold something close to seventeen million units. There is no console in history that has bowed out in its early life after those kind of sales. Love it or hate it (I sit comfortably in the middle bit labelled "apathy"), the PS3 is going to be here for a while.

[PhreQuencYViii]

And Yakumo shows his anti sony bias yet again... Yes the PS3 is only bought by people who really like Sony and not by people say who might want to play more serious games, if you took one look at the top ten selling PS3 games in Japan you might learn something, no one in there right mind would serious buy a Wii if they wanted to play say a decent driving game...

In my experience, yeah, it is. The people I know with PS3's are so serious about playing games they don't play any at all.

What are the top selling PS3 games in Japan? MGS4 has got to be one of them.

[Jamtex]

Playstation 3 games in Japan that have sold over 150,000 units and basically third party publishers do sell more games on the Playstation 3 then they do on the Wii despite the over double the amount of units in Japan).

Metal Gear Solid 4 (Konami) - 658,000 (Can you guess the biggest selling Konami game on the Wii? Powerful Pro Baseball, which sold 138,000 units... the best selling baseball game also by Konami was Pro Yakyuu Spirits 5 which sold 112,000 )
Minna no Golf 5 (Sony) - 488,000
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Sony) - 421,000 (The above two are the only Sony games that have sold over 150,000)
Shin Sangoku Musou 5 (Koei) - 411,000 (Koei on the Wii? Just about but tiny tiny numbers)
Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 321,000 (The silly Wii version of the game, sold 109,000)
Devil May Cry 4 (Capcom) - 312,000 (Resident Evil - Umbrella Cronicles sold 281,000 units)
Gundam Musou (Koei) - 301,000
Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan (Sega) - 277,000 (Segas best Wii game Fushigi no Dungeon - Furai no Shiren 3 sold 105,000)
Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 237,000
Grand Theft Auto IV (Capcom) - 195,000 (nearly 4 times as many as the Xbox 360 version in Japan)
Dragonball Z - Burst Limit (Namco Bandai) - 174,000 (Namco Bandai are one of the few third party companies to do well selling 244,000 copies of Dragonball Z - Budokai TenKaichi 3)
Ridge Racer 7 (Namco Bandai) - 153,000
Senjou no Valkyria - Gallian Chronicles (Sega) - 152,000

[Yakumo]

A if you took one look at the top ten selling PS3 games in Japan you might learn something, no one in there right mind would serious buy a Wii if they wanted to play say a decent driving game...

No, they'd buy a 360

[retro]

No, they'd buy a 360

Damn you! I was about to say that!! :lol:

Don't get me wrong, Gran Turismo is a great game. And it is certainly one that would be on the list that would make me consider getting a PS3. However, it isn't enough to make me say OMG I *NEED* A PS3!!! Oh, that F1 game that came out early on was pretty decent from the demo I played, too.

If you think the PS3 is dead in the water then you have to accept that the 360 is too. They have both shipped a similar number of units, and the 360 had a year's head start. I like my 360, and it's got a lot of play recently, but at some point past the age of 13 you have to stop bashing the competition just because you don't own one.

Quite. Fanboyism isn't a reason alone to slate the opposition. However, it is a reason not to buy something - fair enough. Likewise, though, you can't praise something without praising the others, too. OK Jamtex, so the PS3 has 14 titles that sold over 150k units. Now how many on the Wii have sold that many? Or the 360?

Also, what are the JAPANESE sales figures of Xbox 360 vs PS3 like? Hardware, I mean. You'd expect the Xbox to do poorer in Japan, but it sounds like it's doing OK, yes?

That's why I based my thoughts on FACT. Sure, I gave some personal opinion - yes I've played PS3, yes the graphics look good but I want something more than fancy cosmetic wankery from a games console. The pad feels shit - I find it very uncomfortable to hold and use the triggers, worse than a PS2/PSX pad and I found that a little awkward sometimes. However, my prediction was based on having worked in video game retail and SEEING FIRST HAND how well the PS3 does against the 360. I seem to have given one of the longest predictions with 2 years, too!! lol.

C'mon guys. The PS3 may be struggling, but Sony aren't just going to write it off. Even Betamax had 14 years of manufacture in the West DESPITE being outsold 3 to 1 within 5 years! And they'd at least need a new machine to replace it - that or announce their retirement from the console world like Sega, and that won't happen.

[oldengineer]

But quality wise, once you are used to HD quality, DVD will seem like a blurry pos.

Spot on!

:clap:

[Alchy]

Also, what are the JAPANESE sales figures of Xbox 360 vs PS3 like? Hardware, I mean. You'd expect the Xbox to do poorer in Japan, but it sounds like it's doing OK, yes?

A quick glance at Wikipedia shows PS3 has outsold it 3:1 - 2.3 million PS3s vs 750k Xbox 360s. Again, that's despite a year's head start for the 360. It's the only place in the world where the PS3 is really dominating the 360. Of course neither come close to Wii's 7 million, or the 24 million DS systems (yeah, that's Japan alone).

Maybe we should have a "360 death clock" thread since Microsoft are obviously doing so badly in Japan that they're going to drop support over there. Or maybe we could just drop the bullshit and accept that all three companies are in it for the long haul.

[jammi]

Then you never compared a DVD to a good quality HD movie. Or you only saw low-bitrate mpeg2 1080i HDTV transfers.

Seriously, the quality difference between HD and SD is at least as much as DVD to VHS.

Of course, it's true that HD movies don't introduce as many other elements to the mainstream as DVD did (menus, instant scene skipping, extras, better handling, superior soundtracks, etc). But quality wise, once you are used to HD quality, DVD will seem like a blurry pos.

This is provided you have a display for it, but you can easily use a PC monitor for this, that's what I do.

i hate watching dvds now i cant wait for the blu-ray to come out of a movie

[port187]

Or maybe we could just drop the bullshit and accept that all three companies are in it for the long haul.

Best reply until now :)

[Barc0de]

it could be an uphill struggle for Sony but I think they should put it down to experience and design the PS4 with games as their main focus this time around.

[PhreQuencYViii]

It's not like it matters what the fuck many units sony or nintendo or microsoft sell of conkers bad fur day. There not giving me money! And it's not like the general public buys good games all the time, so whatever.

[Unorthodox]

I could've sworn I clicked on assemblergames.com in my bookmarks and not UKresistance.co.uk .....strange.

[Johnny]

Damn you! I was about to say that!! :lol:

Don't get me wrong, Gran Turismo is a great game. And it is certainly one that would be on the list that would make me consider getting a PS3. However, it isn't enough to make me say OMG I *NEED* A PS3!!! Oh, that F1 game that came out early on was pretty decent from the demo I played, too.

I totally agree with you. Heck, i have 3 GT releases for PS3, and still i'm not inclined to spend between 1.500 and 2.000 Reais on the console.

It's not like i don't have the money, it's just not worth it... yet. Maybe after March, i will think about it.

[Alchy]

I could've sworn I clicked on assemblergames.com in my bookmarks and not UKresistance.co.uk .....strange.

I would've thought the lack of satire here would alert you, if the colour scheme didn't.

[PhreQuencYViii]

I'm considering buying a PS3 next year, probably after January...if anything it would be nice to play PS and PS2 on a wireless controller.

[Nakian]

Ive been owning a PS3 for about a year now and Im very pleased because I needed the space my PSX and PS2 used to occupy and some of the pc like features the console has to offer,again due to space problems

but sure.....I got a wii and was blown away by zelda tp and mario galaxy whereas on the PS3 its pretty much only MGS4 that is still in my mind as a top game,I also think that dropping the dual shock element and supporting half-heartedly the backwards compatibility were definately VERY bad moves by sony

not only that but sony also chose to enforce regional lockouts for PS1 and PS2 games but not for PS3 ones,a move that I dont understand since only the latter will have an important market to deal with,now i have tons of import games which I cant play because of this

the PS3 feels easily accessible on the media platform but comes very short in the gaming sector IMO

they have tons of models with different features where nobody really knows what to expect if he/she doesnt look for information

why not just release a PS3 model without the whole media crap?a model that plays ONLY PS3 games?wouldnt that be cheaper?oh i forgot the blu-ray stuff is dictating here....

[3do]

why not just release a PS3 model without the whole media crap? a model that plays ONLY PS3 games? wouldnt that be cheaper? oh i forgot the blu-ray stuff is dictating here....

I'm not against media capabilities of the ps3 but couldn't sony have concentrated on the gamming side of the ps3 and worried about media and everything else for future updates??

I know sony probably wanted a machine capable of being used for all your media needs but to be honest if i had the need or chance to i'd rather build/buy myself a decent media centre/HTPC and have it next to a 360, wii and ps3 so that the console could do my gaming and the PC left for everything else.

[Christer-swe]

Many people who buy a wii have ONE game. The pack in. All those older non gamers bought it to play the bowling game have a whopping 1 game. Some of them bought Wii Play but you won't find many 50+ "gamers" with more than 3 games tops. Huge system sales on the Wii do not mean you will sell more games.

Yeah, but Ninty makes a profit out of every console they sell, unlike Sony and MS who NEEDS to sell plenty of games to break even.

Ninty still has the luxury of not having to reduce to price since launch. If Ninty would hit a bump they could easily reduce the price. Something Sony can't afford.