PS3 death clock

[BahnNZ]

I give it 8 more years then it's f**ed. :)

[Buyatari]

Carnival games for Wii was made for something like $200,000 and it has sold over 2.6 MILLION copies making the developers some $18,000,000 on their $7 profit per game.

Haze cost something like $15,000,000 and sold only 500K copies. They only make $7.00 a copy, so they lost some 11 million on the game.

-$11,000,000

$15,000,000 makes you ten budget titles for wii.

You are taking a rare example. Most 3rd party Wii games SUCK and have poor sales. Almost every game that was made for all 3 systems had the lowest sales on the Wii version. The controller scheme was too much of a gap to jump.

Many people who buy a wii have ONE game. The pack in. All those older non gamers bought it to play the bowling game have a whopping 1 game. Some of them bought Wii Play but you won't find many 50+ "gamers" with more than 3 games tops. Huge system sales on the Wii do not mean you will sell more games.

[Yakumo]

Here in japan the PS3 is just another thing on the shelf. In fact in most stores around here the 360 has just as much shelf space.

yakumo

[Ryusui]

I wouldn't put a death clock on the PS3, but I do see it trailing both Nintendo and Microsoft for the rest of the generation.

The bottom line is, the PS3 was the wrong thing. Sony's grand plan was for its Playstation to evolve into the core of every living room, an all-powerful box that could play anything, do anything, launch your media experience INTO THE YEAR 2000!...except it came out in 2006. The hype failed to produce anything that hadn't already been thought of, and the fact that the PS3 was the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market was made meaningless by the simple fact that there was, and still is, no real market for Blu-Ray DVDs.

It's been argued that Nintendo has alienated its original demographic; the fact is, it's Sony that alienated its original demographic, and they've been trying to catch up since launch. All their bluster about how we'd bend over and take the higher price tag just because it's a Playstation? About how rumble was yesterday's news? They were mistakes and they knew it. They were just too damn arrogant to fix them before everyone pointed out that the Emperor of the Console Wars had forgotten his pants before entering the ring.

Home is a shining example of what's wrong with Sony. The Mythbusters have proven that yes, it is possible to polish a piece of crap, but that doesn't change the fact that the lustrous sphere in your hands is a pretty pile of feces. There isn't anything really to it; at best it's a glorified chatroom whose only claim to fame is browser-quality minigames that...drumroll, please...you have to wait in line to play! Just like in real life! OMG WOW!!!!ONE!!!!ELEVEN!!!!1337!!!! Home is everything that's wrong with Sony nicely encapsulated in a single free download: it runs off of hype.

Now, don't get me wrong. I have a PS3 and I love the damn thing. But just because I've bought the console doesn't mean I've forgiven Sony for its history of errors, or the mistakes it's still making.

[liquitt]

Too bad we don't have a bottle of that awful sony playstation wine for the prize.

i got 'em ;)

well, what confuses me the most about Sony is, that they're planning to sell every item they have more expensive than before in europe!

[karsten]

The problem is sony can't afford to drop the price.

They still lose $250 each ps3. Another cut to be in line with the
360 would mean $350 loss. By being successful they would
go bankrupt. They need to sell TWENTY ONE game per system at this point
to break even. With a $100 price cut that means they need to sell
appx THIRTY GAMES to break even on each ps3.

They never gonna do it. If they had DVD instead of blue ray, they could cut $180 off the ps3 yesterday.

I would call the ps3 more like a Saturn than a 3do :P

if i have the time I'll search again for the interview to a market analyst and a sony insider stating that sony since a few months ago is actually getting money by selling each machine on a figure of +40/50$...

back on topic, i don't consider the ps3 having a launch until GT and FFXIII are out. If with the release of FF ps3 will still be weak.... say goodbye to it. Also i smell a substantial price drop in the new year.

surely things are gloom for sony this time and the announcement that GT might not be out before NEXT xmas is not a good thing.

[XxHennersXx]

18 months

[Drew]

18 months

I have no idea what that has to do with anything, but I fully support anything Dethklok does.

[graciano1337]

the title of the thread is PS3 deathclock.

[kammedo]

But let's hope Nintendo's casual gaming virus will not doom videogames as we know it! Big profit with bad games is no good combination.

*shrigs* God damn it NO!

[Yakumo]

I would call the ps3 more like a Saturn than a 3do

No way. The Saturn had a very healthy following in Japan, something the PS3 hasn't got or ever did have.

Yakumo

[Parris]

Yeah, last year the inclusion of the Blu Ray player in the PS3 was a good ploy and bound to help sell units, but if you are a film fan rather than a gamer there are a few more options these days including much cheaper stand alone players.

Sony needs to drop the price of the PS3 very swiftly to attract new customers asap.

The Wii is a fun console, but I never use it. The 360 is a serious piece of hardware, now available for almost fuck all and bound to be picking up thousands of sales more than the PS3 on that fact alone now that everyone is watching every penny they spend.

Not sure Sony will drop the PS3, but it's the developers who often make or break a console.

[oldengineer]

Stand alone Blu-ray layers are definately gonna be the death nail in the PS3's coffin.

...Up until they appeared the PS3 had a 'healthy' following of movie buff's, well certainly in the U.K

As for the games function of the console, well, there's barely been a handful of games, so buying a PS3 to use purely as a 'games console' has so far been a strict 'no-no' up till now. (again speaking from a U.K perspective)

...So in summary, yeah Kev's estimate of 18 months could indeed prove to be true.

[Parris]

Shame really as I love it... if it dies that'll be Sony out of the gaming market unless they stick a new case on the PS2 and sell it as the next contender lol

[karsten]

Shame really as I love it... if it dies that'll be Sony out of the gaming market unless they stick a new case on the PS2 and sell it as the next contender lol

add a wiimote to the pack and sell for 259$ :D

[3do]

To me the PS3 isn't something that i think WOW i want one like the ps2 did and it doesn't have a big amount of must have or good games to make it a must have machine for gaming.

Also i think that its trying to be more of a media device than a games console where as i see the 360 as first and foremost a games console which happens to have extra features that i can use if i wanted to and as for the wii that is something playing family games and just having some fun without having to get seriously involved in how to play the games.

[port187]

- I don't care about backwards compatibility, I collect retro BUT not from a generation ago.. it's shit until its really old :) so for now ill stick to ps3 games with great graphics or 8/16 bit games for the retro experiance.
- PS3 is build for the long run
- I dont need to replace it every half year or so as I did with the 360.
- All 3 consoles have downloads of classic games
- The price will eventually go down.
- Bluray is not just for movies, but also a great medium to store LOTS of data! were 360 is stuck to dual layer DVD as a max.
- But I will agree that 360 has more and better games... but whatever I can buy a 360 next to the PS3 seeing as it comes free with a pack of milk nowadays.
- I don't like to pay for online play.. allthough xbox live is of better quality I dont want to pay for it.. I did it previous and it took me a year to get rid of the subscription as they kept taking money from my cc eventhough I didn't own a 360 anymore for months after the 3th RROD.
- The PS3 doesnt make noise like a helicopter when playing games and it doesnt scratch them neighter.
- Sony can handle the loss and when they decide to release a cheaper version of the PS3 the sales will rock as its still the "rich man's" console like the 3do was and so most kids dream that don't have the budget at the moment.

Damn.. did I become a fan boy? or am I in self denile because I don't want to loose my money?? :P anyway it's a great console and I am happy with it.. also love the picture viewing, music player and yes even the streaming divx (it plays 9 out of 10 movies and thats fine! and spares me to keep my ugly a*s xbox1 in the living room stinking up the place looking like something from the 80ties)

PS: I loved the 3DO and I still do!!! :)

[Quzar]

As to the sales figures people have been posting. I had read as early as 4 years ago that Sony released sales data for its consoles as number shipped as opposed to numbers sold. Is that still true in these Playstation 3 sales charts? Or is it that they still do so but others are able to accurately keep track?

Either way, I hope it dies soon. It would put blu-ray to sleep as a mainstream format, relegating it to LD status for videophiles or whatnot and allow for another format to pop up.

[Alchy]

Either way, I hope it dies soon. It would put blu-ray to sleep as a mainstream format, relegating it to LD status for videophiles or whatnot and allow for another format to pop up.

Another video format? Yeah, just what we need.

[Tachikoma]

No way. The Saturn had a very healthy following in Japan, something the PS3 hasn't got or ever did have.

Yakumo

Odd, because every time I play a game on the Japanese servers they are full of plenty of people.