Info about Resident Evil 1.5

[RaZiel]

Eva 1.5 is more fun unfound then found. Reading all this is like gold.

That is because he is sitting looking at his copy of the game laughing at us all ATM moment saying "Yep I'm that guy" :lol:

[arnoldlayne]

If I found it, I'd use it as a coaster

;)

[PhreQuencYViii]

Actually....isn't it kind of true that nobody has a right to own a copy of it except the developers?

[Alchy]

Why can't peolpe control there envy and stop calling others "hoarders" only because they don't leak what you desire?

I'm not arguing whether or not we have the right to a copy, obviously if someone owns the only copy then it's up to them whether they release it or sell it or toss it on the fire. What I don't understand is why it's not ok to call them a hoarder, especially in the context of a post which was offering money for a community release.

Maybe collectors need to be a little less touchy about what other people think of them.

[beretta85]

In my opinion, people who accept that are even worse than those you call "hoarders". Why? Because they make money with a game that they don't even legally own. It's fine if the physical copy changes hands for money (emphasis on "the"), but people should never take or spend money for a leak. That's just wrong, and it reminds me of the warez scene whenever I read something like that.

Paging DRX to thread 16832.

What is so important about the physical copy? Yes, if you are a collector, having the physical copy is key to collecting. But what about the casual game enthusiast? Some people peed their pants when DRX released the early sonic 2 proto. I know people paid him money to release the Judgement Force beta. Money was exchanged for a service. The service was allowing others to experience something that was either formerly thoughy to be lost, or was unknown to begin with.

Warez hurts the video game / movie / music / etc industries. Those have a real market and peoples' jobs depend on it. There is no market for betas. They are illegal to have are not sold from a first party for any kind of profit. I fail to see a problem.

[beretta85]

Then why don't we get all the betas for free? :icon_bigg The physical copy is so important because this is what money was paid for. Releasing a dump for money means that you take additional money AND keep the physical copy with the actual value.

I don't see what else I should reply if you think that there's no problem with making money by leaking illegally-obtained, copyrighted material. A question of morality, I guess.

using your logic, it would be fine for the president to sell our nuclear secrets to other countrys. However, making photocopies of them...thats just crossing the line. Illegal is illegal. People make money everyday on this forum openly selling "illegally-obtained, copyrighted material".

There is one big thing you're overlooking here. A transaction that involves money for a public release can only be done once. Once a copy exists, infinitely more can be made. DRX will never get more money for Judgement force now that he has released it. The transaction is done, the collector has his compensation for sharing, and countless others can experience the game that was released. I still fail to see a problem (aside from the basis on our arguments that this trade is inherently illegal).

[PhreQuencYViii]

I think peoples opinion on the subject will never be similair, lol.

I dunno what I think.

Oh, I didn't mean legal rights earlier BTW. I just figure a lot of the dev's who work on some of those games might consider them there babies or something, and some might just release it themselves or something. I just figure it might be important to them.

[Alchy]

Because "hoarder" used in this context is kind of an insult and implies that any person owning a rare game is obligated to dump and release it? It's a contradiction to admit that it's their decision but in turn call them hoarders if they don't change their decision.

No it isn't. I'll defend someone's right to free speech but that doesn't mean I condone what they're saying. Just because someone has a right doesn't mean we have to like it, and if anyone honestly get that offended by the term "hoarder" then I'd direct them to my previous comment about being less touchy.

Again, I totally respect someone's decision not to release something they own, and I defend their right to do so. You can't expect people not to call you a hoarder, though, if you've got something that everyone wants; it's to be expected, and it doesn't mean anything.

The physical copy is so important because this is what money was paid for. Releasing a dump for money means that you take additional money AND keep the physical copy with the actual value.

I don't see what else I should reply if you think that there's no problem with making money by leaking illegally-obtained, copyrighted material. A question of morality, I guess.

Not so much a question of morality as a question of demand. All those who pay for a dump do so of their own free will, and they're all aware of the terms of the transaction. Also, if we want to get into the morality of illegally obtained dev materials then I think >90% of the forum are guilty. As an M2 fanatic you certainly own dubiously acquired items, I'd even going to go out on a limb and speculate that you've paid people who acquired their items through workplace theft (certainly, somewhere along the line this has occurred to the items you own) - doesn't this wrack you with guilt?

[A. Snow]

Let's just be honest here... You simply can't be in this type of collecting market without being a hypocrite in one form or another. It is just the nature of the beast.

[Borman]

Everyone in the world is a hoarder. All you people that dont go and buy the betas yourself, you hoard your monies. All of us who have protos that we havent released, we're hoarders. So there, we're all on even grounds lol

[neoblast]

Sorry if you took "hoarder" as an insult but I did not mean it, personally it is okey with people not releasing their stuff, I would understand someone who hs paid alot of moeny not wanting to release what he paid for. But I don't consider that an insult.
I was just saying that IF it ever get released or sold I would donate for a community fund since it's one of the most desired betas by ANYONE, that was my context and point.

[discworld]

i think we have create this problem, why?

bioflamesuser post maybe six years permanent: "i neeeed re1.5", "i sell my body for it" and in thousand other boards the same - and the collector(s) read it and think: hey nice one i have the rarest game on earth, my DARLING, i never release or make a copy of it.

Some collectors search for the ultimate rare beta... a sickness.

[Bramsworth]

i think we have create this problem, why?

bioflamesuser post maybe six years permanent: "i neeeed re1.5", "i sell my body for it" and in thousand other boards the same - and the collector(s) read it and think: hey nice one i have the rarest game on earth, my DARLING, i never release or make a copy of it.

Some collectors search for the ultimate rare beta... a sickness.

I never knew Freddie Mercury owned the elusive RE1.5 beta! ;-)

Seriously though, you sound like you're whining with the way you word it. Stop being a fanboy about it. If you can't get it there's no point in whining.

[brasilia]

Yeah, it's exactly why I want to finish up my thorough feature at some point. Bioflames is the best source of information, but as you said, most of the solid information is scattered in the forums and hard to find. I'll be working on it soon, so hopefully I can complete it soon.

and the curator came in contact with you to sell copies of the 1.5

[veganx]

So, there is a playable beta disc somewhere ? Does it really exist ?

[killer7]

So, there is a playable beta disc somewhere ? Does it really exist ?

Yeah.

[Max_XX_ou]

The big question is :
Where is the beta disc?

[discworld]

The big question is :
Where is the beta disc?

most copys in the united states and some in europe. The original source is unknown. This is my thoughts about the storyline of copys.

moreover, i thought something is new, bah only a pusher again. :)

[veganx]

There are several copies and we can`t get our hands in a single one ?

[Max_XX_ou]

There are several copies and we can`t get our hands in a single one ?

Yes!
we don't know the owners.