Ps3 to only play 1000 or so Ps2 games out of 8500+ ps2 titles.

[ASSEMbler]

From gameindustry.biz interview.
The backwards compatibility issue has been talked about a lot in Europe recently. You made comments some months ago saying that backwards compatibility was important, something that you wanted to give consumers and that they wanted... Why has that strategy changed?

The strategy has not changed. We have made a technical change to the machine which moves us from being a hardware-embedded backwards compatibility solution to one which is a combination of hardware and software.


While that has unfortunately reduced the total number of games that will be compatible from the PS2 catalogue, it's important to remember that the PS1 catalogue remains unchanged, and definitely, March 23, we expect over 1000 titles to be playable for playstation 2. Within that list is the vast majority of games you would want to play. So I think everybody just needs to calm down and be comfortable that the strategy is still in place.

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So there it is. I fully expect them to do only a few hundred before they call it quits.:clap:

I bet they even remove the backwards compat completely someday.

Not that there are few of them , surely so far several million, the hard ware compat ps3 is sure to be more
valuable for sure.

[Taucias]

There are several threads talking about this issue. Again, they only say at least 1000 games are compatible in Europe, where ~2400 games have been released. There are no estimations made on the other 6000 obscure Japanese games that never saw a western release.

Firmware updates will fix the games that don't work but sold in large numbers (or 'net forums start jibber jabbering about)

[Mr. Casual]

I'm just going to keep my PS2 anyway. Why do people even NEED backwards compatibility anyway? I know its more convenient, but the PSP and etc. can play PS2 Isos, right? And its not like trading in a PS2 for a PS3 would get you MUCH money anyway.

Granted, for $600 you'd expect it to do everything under the sun, but its not something I'd care for. Especially since they'll be played on the same ol' TV anyway.

I'd also be willing to bet over one-fourth of my PS2 collection wouldn't be compatible. Maybe more.

[subbie]

Where have you been assembler the past few months. :P

There are several threads talking about this issue. Again, they only say at least 1000 games are compatible in Europe, where ~2400 games have been released. There are no estimations made on the other 6000 obscure Japanese games that never saw a western release.

Firmware updates will fix the games that don't work but sold in large numbers (or 'net forums start jibber jabbering about)

What he said.

Personaly I have higher hopes in sony for BC, What I see as good proof is their ps1 emulator for psp. It runs full speed and is esentualy compatible with most games. Sony has been very active on fixing bugs in the ps1 emu for psp when there is barely any software released to use it.

Also I would not be suprised if later on even first model ps3 only run off emulation and not the internal EE in the system.

[Johnny]

I wonder what the Sony fanboys will say now. LOL

They loved to talk crap about the Xbox360 backward compatibility. And now they are on the same boat.

[Taucias]

Yeah true, but the XB360 BC is laughable, I just hope Sony beat Microsoft in this area (30% ffs).

[Shadowlayer]

I wonder, what if sony made a PS3 with the PS2 parts and one thats just a plain PS3? which one would sell more?

I say the "lite" version, since it would be from $150 to $200 cheaper than the BC one, and most fanboys and early adopters already have a PS2.

Too bad Phil runs on "moronix" pills:lol:

I wonder what the Sony fanboys will say now. LOL

Nothing, not even a word: humans rarely admit defeat in the intellectual area.

Thats why the PR motto is "do something right and some guy may talk about it, do something wrong and EVERYBODY will talk about it"

[CRanga]

European fanboys won't have much to say, but the US PS3 owners are still able to stick it to all Xbox 360 owners.

[Sonikku]

Erm how exactly?

[Sony Fanboy] "Ha ha! My PS3 plays most PS2 games! Your 360 doesn't play all Xbox games!"

[MS Fanboy] " Well, ok. My system plays Xbox 360 games just fine, how many PS3 games do you have?"

[babu]

Personaly I have higher hopes in sony for BC, What I see as good proof is their ps1 emulator for psp. It runs full speed and is esentualy compatible with most games. Sony has been very active on fixing bugs in the ps1 emu for psp when there is barely any software released to use it.

Well the problem I see is that they (SONY) has officialy gone out in a interview and said that they wont be doing much work on the PS2 BC because they want to put all resource in making PS3 games (or whatever the reason was). =/

[karsten]

1000 euro games are more or less all the ps2 games that were out here... can't see it being bad at all

[ASSEMbler]

I'm sure the balance of non supported games are crap.

I'm just laughing at the much touted feature of backwards compatible being thrown out the window.

Being backwards compat is one of the key commandments of
the playstation idea.

Now that's out the window.

[Paulo]

Again i really cant be bothered. Its one of those thigns when the 360 had it everyone was saying shit about it and now with the PS3 everyone is like well i guess its ok cos its sony...

[Alchy]

Why do people even NEED backwards compatibility anyway? I know its more convenient, but the PSP and etc. can play PS2 Isos, right?

No. PSP isn't nearly powerful enough to emulate a PS2.

[Taucias]

I wonder, what if sony made a PS3 with the PS2 parts and one thats just a plain PS3? which one would sell more?

I say the "lite" version, since it would be from $150 to $200 cheaper than the BC one, and most fanboys and early adopters already have a PS2.

Too bad Phil runs on "moronix" pills:lol:




Nothing, not even a word: humans rarely admit defeat in the intellectual area.

Thats why the PR motto is "do something right and some guy may talk about it, do something wrong and EVERYBODY will talk about it"

Er... the PS2 chipset included in the PS3 adds $50 to the cost of manufacture at the highest estimate.

[MottZilla]

Like Taucias said, I really doubt the PS2 hardware that allows for such decent PS2 and PS1 backwards compatibility costs much at all. It's all about Sony saving money and fuck the user and the product itself. Afterall that's why most of their shit is made in China. It's amazes me how people just keep trying to cut as many corners as they can. Why is it that no one has the balls to make a high quality product anymore even if it costs more money to make and buy? I mean seriously, wouldn't you pay a reasonable price increase for the manufacturer to put some QUALITY into their products?

Why is it that Sony now only makes cheap chinese PS2 slimline pieces of shit? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy a high quality PS2 unit that would last as long as possible? Same with any of this stuff. I hate this fucking Walmart thinking of make your crap cheaper and crappier at all costs.

[Taucias]

I disagree. $25-50 might not seem much, but make a few million of them and that is quite a chunk of change. If the PS3 ends up selling even 20 million then that is half a billion dollars saved.

You are one of the very few who are willing to pay over the average cost for quality. Consumers and competition drive down price, which means corners end up getting cut. Most forum people are crying about the price of the PS3 and that will force the price down, no doubt lowering the end quality.

Prices go down over time but it is a fallacy to assume the chips drop to cents. The slimline PS2 is about as cheap as it is going to get (I'm guessing Sony break even on the current retail price).

[Cheese007]

Not that there are few of them , surely so far several million, the hard ware compat ps3 is sure to be more
valuable for sure.

Only 1.6 million so far.

[Taucias]

They've shipped 4 million and sold 2.1million so far: http://www.vgcharts.org/

[MottZilla]

I disagree. $25-50 might not seem much, but make a few million of them and that is quite a chunk of change. If the PS3 ends up selling even 20 million then that is half a billion dollars saved.

Oh I understand that perfectly. My point is that it would be nice if you had a choice in the matter where you could choose to pay more to cover the cost. Instead you have no choice, you simply must take it or leave it.