Xbox 360 Development Kit

**Pikkon** · 12-02-2006

I recently acquired a 360 dev kit,sadly it did not come with the original hdd and its missing the two wires that comes out off the top of the unit.
I have been told its a beta 2 dev kit.Well here are some pics.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/pikkonson/dev.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...onson/dev4.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...onson/dev5.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...onson/dev7.jpg
I will update this thread later and post some pics of the motherboard.
Here is a pic of the motherboard.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...on/Devmobo.jpg
Update,my Kit is not a beta 2,its a final 360 dev kit.
Enjoy

**Barc0de** · 12-02-2006

nice one, thanks for sharing :)

**jwhazel** · 12-02-2006

Out of curiousity, how exactly are people getting ahold of these? I'm sure that you probably bought yours from a friend of a friend of someones cousins uncle who babysits a developers son. But I'm just curious how these make it out under the radar. Don't they cost an arm and a leg from MS to begin with? Doesn't MS keep track of them to keep them from getting in the wrong hands? Just things that I've always wondered.

**Barc0de** · 12-02-2006

I m speaking out of my ass, since I don't know any prices on the matter, but IF i had to guess, the units wouldn't cost as much as, say, a Ps2 TOOL. right?

**Pikkon** · 12-04-2006

Thread updated

**hl718** · 12-04-2006

Looks more like a debug kit than a dev kit. Dev kits typically have the sidecar board on the side, while the debugs take a "standard" X360 hard drive.

I'm also curious how you confirmed that it was a final kit, given that the vast majority of final kits didn't have holes in the side. :)

Oh, as an aside, photoshopping out the build number of the XDK SDK installed on the machine is kind of pointless.

-hl718

**Pikkon** · 12-05-2006

Well it has already been confimed to be a dev kit for the matter,and also mine is missing the two black wires coming out of the top of the unit for connecting a sidecar unit.And it was confimed to be a final kit by the motherboard version.

**oldengineer** · 12-05-2006

Originally Posted by hl718

Looks more like a debug kit than a dev kit. Dev kits typically have the sidecar board on the side, while the debugs take a "standard" X360 hard drive.

I'm also curious how you confirmed that it was a final kit, given that the vast majority of final kits didn't have holes in the side. :)

Oh, as an aside, photoshopping out the build number of the XDK SDK installed on the machine is kind of pointless.

-hl718

...It's a Final QA Kit to be precise, hence the hole in the side/missing sidecar loom/final mobo rev...combo :)

**Brilliant2meNu** · 12-05-2006

Man, I got 4 360XDK's and can't seem to get my filth mitts on a TOOL!

**hl718** · 12-06-2006

Leave it to OE to know the exact parentage of any Xbox-related device out there. ;)

Given what he said, your box is pretty much equivalent to a debug kit (with the addition of the extra holes). Slap a hard drive on there and the system is more or less complete.

-hl718

**Barc0de** · 12-06-2006

Originally Posted by Brilliant2meNu

Man, I got 4 360XDK's and can't seem to get my filth mitts on a TOOL!

Odd. there was one going around last month I think, for a naturaly steep pricetag.

What is the price for a 360 debug? how about an XDK?

PS: What is meant by debug ? A real-time PC channel offering debug info, or the ability to play non-finalized code?

e.g. the NR gamecube is a test unit. The NPDP-gamecube by itself is a test unit. NPDP-gamecube+ IS DOL-viewer (never seen one in the wild) is the equivelant to the GBOX (offering debug via RS232) , and the GDEV and DDH also support real-time debug.

**Pikkon** · 12-06-2006

Originally Posted by hl718

Leave it to OE to know the exact parentage of any Xbox-related device out there. ;)

Given what he said, your box is pretty much equivalent to a debug kit (with the addition of the extra holes). Slap a hard drive on there and the system is more or less complete.

-hl718

Well my kit is incomplete as its missing the wires and the original hdd,and yes my kit is equivalent to a debug or demo kit,as the motherboards are basically the same,hardware wise.But it would be nice to add a new hdd to my kit,but without a recovery disc its not possible.

**babu** · 12-06-2006

Originally Posted by Brilliant2meNu

Man, I got 4 360XDK's and can't seem to get my filth mitts on a TOOL!

they seem to come up now and then on the japanese yahoo auction site.

**hl718** · 12-06-2006

Originally Posted by Barc0de

PS: What is meant by debug ? A real-time PC channel offering debug info, or the ability to play non-finalized code?

e.g. the NR gamecube is a test unit. The NPDP-gamecube by itself is a test unit. NPDP-gamecube+ IS DOL-viewer (never seen one in the wild) is the equivelant to the GBOX (offering debug via RS232) , and the GDEV and DDH also support real-time debug.

When Microsoft hardware is concerned, both debug kits and dev kits are typically very similar. This is true for both the Xbox and the Xbox 360. The short version is that a dev kit has a small bit of extra hardware which allows for more robust inspection of the code. If you're trying to track down an annoying crash bug you want a dev kit as it's possible for misbehaving software to completely shut down a debug kit whereas a hard crash on a dev kit will still allow you to poke around in memory.

The 360 also saw the addition of demo kits and reviewer kits which were essentially debug kits which shipped without the accompanying development software.

-hl718

**Barc0de** · 12-06-2006

so, if I were to snagg a reviewer or demo kit and get software from somewhere else, I'd have myself a debug unit? Or is the serial number of the console on a license-base, uniquely for every licensed copy of the software?

**Pikkon** · 12-11-2006

Also I took a pic of all my consoles I still game on.
Two PS2's,the top one is modded.
Two retail 360's
PS3 60gb version
Wii
Two modded xbox's
DS Lite
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...n/consoles.jpg
Game on.

**oldengineer** · 12-11-2006

Very nice collection m8 :)

...Btw what made u lose the 'nun' avator, I kinda miss her :P

**Pikkon** · 12-12-2006

Thanks oldengineer,and I was just trying out a new avator,I really didn't like it to much so I put back the nun avator for your viewing pleasure.
cheers