Early Saturn Footage. with video, now early PSX footage.

**PrOfUnD Darkness** · 08-04-2004

Yeah, but System C-2 doesn't has a Z80, so it is less closer *in hardware* than the System 16 is to the Mega Drive. On the other hand, the System 16 has a Nec decoder. Hum...well, the Mega Play/Tech are closer to the Mega Drive than the System C-2/16.

Originally Posted by GigaDrive

actually, from what I understand, no, the MegaDrive/Genesis is closer to System C-2 (or System C), Mega Tech and Mega Play. those arcade systems are all based on Genesis/MD with some modifications. the Mega Tech or Mega Play can play Genesis/MD games in modified cartridges. the other can play Genesis/MD and Master System games. edit: the System C-2 has a slightly faster 68000, 10 MHz and one chip is from the System 16 board.

The Genesis/MD is conciderably less powerful than the older System 16 even though the Genesis/MD was derived somewhat from the System 16. The Genesis/MD has about 2/3 the sprite pushing ability, 80 sprites instead of 128. Genesis/MD has far less color, 64 out of 512 instead of the System 16's 4096 out of 32768. the Genesis/MD also lacks the hardware zooming/scaling capability that System 16 had.

The System 16, with its far greater color capability, conciderably more sprite pushing power, decent hardware scaling, and faster CPU, compared to Genesis/MD, I think the System 16 rivals if not surpasses the SuperFami/SNES in many ways. although SuperFami/SNES had 4 background layers compared to the 2 in System 16 and Genesis/MD, and SuperFami had hardware rotation and other FX that System 16 didnt have. but System 16's 10 MHz 68000 probably balances things out with the SuperFami/SNES.

**link343** · 12-04-2004

Yakumo, you got the videos ready yet?

**Yakumo** · 12-04-2004

Originally Posted by link343

Yakumo, you got the videos ready yet?

What videos? Do you mean the early Daytona video and Panzer Dragoon ones? If so then no. I never could find them. Nocomply who sometimes visits here may have a copy though. I remember making a few copies of the tapes and one may have went to him. I'll have to ask him.

Yakumo

**link343** · 12-06-2004

Originally Posted by Yakumo

I spent 5 hours today looking through 50 odd video tapes for the early Saturn footage that I have....

I'll make real movies once I return back to Japan.
Yakumo

Those. I would really like to see them all any I can put some of them on my FTP.

**Yakumo** · 12-07-2004

[quote="link343"]

Originally Posted by Yakumo

I would really like to see them all any I can put some of them on my FTP.

Sorry, the videos are PAL so they won't play in my video recorder in Japan.

Yakumo

**link343** · 12-07-2004

oh. :smt022

**ASSEMbler** · 02-24-2005

Bump. Anyone care if these are sticky or not?

HI_Ricky · 03-01-2005

i have early GT2000 video in my DV tape(copy from beta tape), post the ugly pic later :)

**Johnny** · 03-01-2005

Originally Posted by HI_Ricky

i have early GT2000 video in my DV tape(copy from beta tape), post the ugly pic later :)

Any chance you convert this video to DivX and post it here?

Me loves GT :happyhap:

HI_Ricky · 03-01-2005

**Johnny** · 03-01-2005

:boobies2 :boobies2 :smt023 :smt023

Thanks a lot!

I hope someday i'll be able to get the Gran Turismo 2000 demo disc that was given on 2000 PlayStation Festival.

By the way, this video is even cooler, because if i'm not mistaken, it's the GT2 base code, using some stuff from the Emotion Engine to improve Graphics.

The demo disc i mentioned was already a brand new code, that in the end was released as Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec

HI_Ricky · 03-01-2005

this one is first rls GT3demo(can play ver)
inside the disc can find un finish road and beta test only hidden road.
of coz need mod elf to relocation the beta / unfinish data

**Johnny** · 03-01-2005

Originally Posted by HI_Ricky

this one is first rls GT3demo(can play ver)
inside the disc can find un finish road and beta test only hidden road.
of coz need mod elf to relocation the beta / unfinish data

Don't torture me like that.

That GT2000 demo disc i mentioned is playable too. It's timed, but you can play it for 2 minutes or so.

HI_Ricky · 03-02-2005

hmm....all on my hand GT2000 is video only.
playable ver all is remark GT3....

**Yakumo** · 03-02-2005

Originally Posted by HI_Ricky

hmm....all on my hand GT2000 is video only.
playable ver all is remark GT3....

WOW, that is an early demo ! Where are the road side objects?

Yakumo

**Johnny** · 03-02-2005

Just to let you know, this track (on it's early build) it's Tokyo Route 246.

**sayin999** · 03-02-2005

its been awhile since ive seen pics of gt2002, i remember the creator of the serise saying that this game was suppose to be a side game in the gt serise, but they decided to scrap it making gt3 instead. Still i wonder how far this version got into development.

**Johnny** · 03-02-2005

Originally Posted by sayin999

its been awhile since ive seen pics of gt2002, i remember the creator of the serise saying that this game was suppose to be a side game in the gt serise, but they decided to scrap it making gt3 instead. Still i wonder how far this version got into development.

I think you are confused. GT 2000 was the name for the first game of the GT series in the PS2. After long delays, the game would not be released in the year 2000, so they scrapped the name and named it GT 3: A-Spec. Yes, what started as GT2000 ended up being released as GT 3: A-Spec.

The GT2002 you mentioned is probably the series of "side games" called Gran Turismo Concept. There were 3 versions of it:

- Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo (NTSC/J)

- Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Tokyo - Seoul (NTSC/J)

- Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Tokyo - Geneva (NTSC/J and PAL)

HI_Ricky · 03-03-2005

hmm. today just talk to old sony firiend about Gt2000.
he say. GT2000 only on first ps next-gen development system runing. did not have rebuil on Playstation2 .
but it have 1 gt3 demo useing old gt2000 on start logo,the disc for few magazine early perview only.

now need looking who have the early disc :P

**sayin999** · 03-03-2005

Originally Posted by Johnny

I think you are confused. GT 2000 was the name for the first game of the GT series in the PS2. After long delays, the game would not be released in the year 2000, so they scrapped the name and named it GT 3: A-Spec. Yes, what started as GT2000 ended up being released as GT 3: A-Spec.

The GT2002 you mentioned is probably the series of "side games" called Gran Turismo Concept. There were 3 versions of it:

- Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo (NTSC/J)

- Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Tokyo - Seoul (NTSC/J)

- Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Tokyo - Geneva (NTSC/J and PAL)

I actually ment 2000 but i got the dates mixed up, ut what your saying is true, but that game was a bit different form the final game, mostly in the graphical area, im curious to see if anyone has this beta in their posetion(refering to 2000 beta), anyone remember when they demoed this version of gt it was running on a prototype setup for ps2, which some journalist that caught a slight glance on the insided said it was mostly computers stacked on each other or something like that, cant exactly remember since it has been awhile. I have some old egms that show shots of gt2000 as well as tekkens first build on ps2.