MegaNeo AES modifications

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Woooo, finally, after 12 years of wanting one, I'm finally getting a NeoGeo AES for all the shmups and MetalSlugs. :drinkers: :smt033 Hurrah

Anyways, I've been looking at the MegaNeo units at on the NeoStore and they're $600/£350!!!! However, I'm not interested in all the mods they have. I need a unit with a serial number below 90,000, as these have the best RGB output, meaning I don't need the SVHS mod. The Stereo mod would be usefull, as would be a power light (but a little LED, not a whole lit up reset button). And I don't reckon I need the Unibios, as I'll be getting a Japanese unit anyway, and I don't mind playing the games in Japanese.

So, can anyone help with diagrams for the power light/stereo mods, please? I can get a Neo unit for $200/£120 from Hit-Japan on Ebay, and I'd rather save cash and do the only two mods I require myself.

Has anyone done these mods themselves? Recommendations?

Cool. Cheers. And remember kiddies, The Future is Now

[Calpis]

It's hard to believe anything on the Neo scene when everyone's trying to pitch their own merch. "Serial: 45,323 (Serials 45320-45325 have best button responce)"

http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

I've never modded a Neo and I'm not sure where R audio is tapped from but I'm sure it's damn easy. And a light diagram? Find 5v on the board, find ground. Buy a 5v LED, attach...

[ASSEMbler]

tapped if you're lazy off the headphone jack connections

[Calpis]

Thats what I was thinking but couldn't remember if Neo had headphone jacks.

[Baseley09]

Best ask in tech section @ www.neo-geo.com/forums

[Codeman1]

Woooo, finally, after 12 years of wanting one, I'm finally getting a NeoGeo AES for all the shmups and MetalSlugs. :drinkers: :smt033 Hurrah


If you really want a Neogeo to play the Metal Slug's and the shooters then you should have chosen a Neogeo MVS instead.
Metal Slug 1,2,X AES carts are very rare and expensive, the remaings Slugs and shooters like Pulstar and Blazing Star are also very expensive.

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

http://www.neogeousa.com/mod-index.html

I found this whilst researching. Stereo seems damn easy, surely even I can't :butthead: that up.....

The Unibios mod is.... scary. Not even attempting that. Quite happy with Japanese language and muchos blood.

Gotta feel sorry for guys in the USA having to mess with the SVHS mod. RGB rules (on the first 90,000 units).

Just need to locate Gnd and +5v for a power light now....

[Calpis]

Don't need to feel sorry for us, we generally don't know better. Composite was a luxury here to most until 2002 or so... If we want RGB we can get it, we'll just have to get higher end things like production monitors or transcoding hardware. I feel sorry for everyone having to live with PAL, now *that* is crap :)

Also, now people are using on-board amps to improve the composite/svhs and RGB, if you can do something like that, there really is no need to hunt down a specific console. I'm sure if I sold 90124 and labeled it as "extremely rare, very small production on 90124 units" some fool would pay $20 more.

[AntiPasta]

Don't need to feel sorry for us, we generally don't know better. Composite was a luxury here to most until 2002 or so... If we want RGB we can get it, we'll just have to get higher end things like production monitors or transcoding hardware. I feel sorry for everyone having to live with PAL, now *that* is crap :)


That's why our TVs support 60hz :smt023
(but I agree that a lot of PAL releases are poorly optimized/converted)

[Calpis]

You guys still have PAL airwaves :) I don't think having the extra lines of resolution is bad, just the lack of frames and speed. I suppose PAL60 is technically the best, except it has very washed out colors most of the time. Thats where RGB comes into play.

[Greatsaintlouis]

And I'm...... completely lost on all the various types of signal outputs (composite, component, s-video, etc.) and the signals themselves (NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc.) and all I know is that RF sucks and RGB is the best because it's outputting the straight, uncompressed Red, Green, and Blue pixel information, but beyond that I am so horribly lost. :smt017 :smt022 :toimonster:

[supersonic87]

Uk airwaves transmit digital 16:9 RGB images :smt033

shame we don't have high-def yet (apart from euro 1080 crap) :smt011

Rich

[LeGIt]

If I remember correctly the HDTV standard was rejected for europe because we are waiting for a superior PAL version :smt023

It took us long enougnh after NTSC was developed for an advanced PAL signal, hopefully the next PAL format will come along swift so we cna laugh once again at how inferior NTSC is :smt033

[Calpis]

You get digital TV via free air????

If I know the US, we'll never change transmission methods, probably 20% of the country has a TV from the 1980s.

[Baseley09]

You get digital TV via free air????



Yeah a lot of our modern TVs have Digital decoders built in for free to air cable/digital.

[Calpis]

I don't know of any other place that has that. You've got something there.

[Paulo]

I don't know of any other place that has that. You've got something there.

Do you pay over £120 a year to watch the TV you might of paid as little as £50 or as much as £2000 for.... no? well we do! Its the least they could give us! :smt019

[Calpis]

For digital cable my friend's dad pays $147 a month. (But with many PPV)

[ASSEMbler]

USA: No VAT, no TV tax

Even if they have free broadcast, they are still taxed VERY heavily.

[Metal_4evr]

And that my friends, is why people have hacked DirectTV and Bell Expressview...

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Yeah, in the UK you can get a Freeview box for about £30 - £100 and get free digital TV through normal aerial. But you get about 30 channels, all of which are crap.

Otherwise you need Sky/Cable. Then you can get Sky1, Toonami, etc... But UK TV charges are shocking. £120 per yr for TV license, plus £30 per month for cable to have something decent to watch. Shocking. Currently I pay £45 per month for basic cable channels, 600k broadband and phone.

PAL is better than NTSC, by about 100 lines or so. Although NTSC has a faster refresh rate @ 60hz. When a game is given a proper PAL60 conversion, it does kick ass, but RGB Scart is still the way to go.

Composite is the same visual quality as RF, just with the L and R audio channels seperated.

Anyways, back to the NeoGeo. I've been lurking on the Neo furums for the past week or so. What can I say!!!! I though most Neo owners would be around my age (24) or older. And the Neo forums would contain sensible adults discussing the system and games. How wrong was I!!! Most of the users frequenting the Neo forums seem to be asshole kids bitching at each other, calling names, etc. Ppl pretending to be 2 or more ppl, guys pretending to be gals and ppl bitching about selling converted carts. Considering what a high status the Neo holds, not what I expected at all!

[Baseley09]

Anyways, back to the NeoGeo. I've been lurking on the Neo furums for the past week or so. What can I say!!!! I though most Neo owners would be around my age (24) or older. And the Neo forums would contain sensible adults discussing the system and games. How wrong was I!!! Most of the users frequenting the Neo forums seem to be asshole kids bitching at each other, calling names, etc. Ppl pretending to be 2 or more ppl, guys pretending to be gals and ppl bitching about selling converted carts. Considering what a high status the Neo holds, not what I expected at all!

HAHA, gotta love it;)

There's plenty to bitch about is why.

What's your username there??

[Calpis]

PAL is better than NTSC, by about 100 lines or so. Although NTSC has a faster refresh rate @ 60hz. When a game is given a proper PAL60 conversion, it does kick ass, but RGB Scart is still the way to go.
Yeah but if you're talking about games, don't most of you play NTSC games anyway?


Composite is the same visual quality as RF, just with the L and R audio channels seperated.
In a perfect world yes, but unfortunately there is noise and degradation.


Most of the users frequenting the Neo forums seem to be asshole kids bitching at each other, calling names, etc. Ppl pretending to be 2 or more ppl, guys pretending to be gals and ppl bitching about selling converted carts. Considering what a high status the Neo holds, not what I expected at all!
Thats not just the Neo forums, thats the entire internet, even people here.

[Anonymous]

You get digital TV via free air????

If I know the US, we'll never change transmission methods, probably 20% of the country has a TV from the 1980s.


All major markets in the US have free OTA digital TV signals as well. Been like that for awhile. You don't have to stick with analog if you don't want to.

-hl718

[AntiPasta]

PAL is better than NTSC, by about 100 lines or so. Although NTSC has a faster refresh rate @ 60hz. When a game is given a proper PAL60 conversion, it does kick ass, but RGB Scart is still the way to go.
Yeah but if you're talking about games, don't most of you play NTSC games anyway?


Well I think his point is that if done proper a PAL version of a game can be better than its NTSC counterpart - however there's not that many games that get developed for PAL and then converted to NTSC (I think the Wipeout games are).

[Calpis]

Hmm it seems I've been out of the TV loop :)