japan is the best place to get your cars

[strider]

espically the lancer evolution and the skyline japan is the best beside hong kong and korea if you want to go deeper never been to tawian i herd its cool though

[GaijinPunch]

never been to tawian

Never heard of punctiation either?

[A. Snow]

Try getting a Skyline registered in the US. By the time it's been certified you could buy a used Ferrari for the same price.

[Paulo]

So japan is the best APART from hong kong, korea and maybe tawian... ok then.

[strider]

ok now why are you people trying to start something

[Paulo]

What are we trying to start?

You made a post and got replies. Your post was kinda pointless from my point of view and kinda silly
cos as even you say japan isnt the best place to get your car....

Also your post doesnt seem like you want to actually have a chat about things. Most your posts seem to be you either trying to bump up your post count or one liners telling us what your up to.

[GaijinPunch]

Paulo -- don't feed the trolls. It'll end in tears.

[Johnny]

Don't get me wrong, i like Nissan Skyline. But the car is simply too damn problematic. The suspensions gives problems constantly.

Lancer Evolution? It's a great car. A friend of mine has an Evo VII, and i had the chance to drive it. Great steering, amazing power. But too much money.

Anyway, from what Yakumo told, it's rather expensive to have a car in Japan. Lots of taxes and stuff like that.

[strider]

ok any ways all i said is that i think japan is the best place to get in import car and you guys start talking s***t to me again look all im trying to do is get along with you people im new to this site so give me a break all right thank you

[Yakumo]

Anyway, from what Yakumo told, it's rather expensive to have a car in Japan. Lots of taxes and stuff like that.
Buying the car is cheap enough but yeah the tax is a bitch and parking spaces too. THe strange thing is that a used big car is sometimes cheaper than a used small car because the small car has really cheap tax and insurance while the big car is expensive for everything. Sometimes I wonder what the Japanese goverment actually do when they make these crazy rules up.

Yakumo

[strider]

So japan is the best APART from hong kong, korea and maybe tawian... ok then.
yo know this moderator doesnt seem to like me

[strider]

What are we trying to start?

You made a post and got replies. Your post was kinda pointless from my point of view and kinda silly
cos as even you say japan isnt the best place to get your car....

Also your post doesnt seem like you want to actually have a chat about things. Most your posts seem to be you either trying to bump up your post count or one liners telling us what your up to. he is another reason

[SuperGrafx]

Lancer Evolution? It's a great car. A friend of mine has an Evo VII, and i had the chance to drive it. Great steering, amazing power. But too much money.

Anyway, from what Yakumo told, it's rather expensive to have a car in Japan. Lots of taxes and stuff like that.

$30k for Lancer EVO VIII isn't too bad considering what you're getting. The new MR edition costs approx $35k.
I have my eye on an EVO for my next car....oh yes!

[Johnny]

Well, a used EVO VIII costs here in Brazil for about 160.000 Reais. The Evo VII has about 260HP, despite being just a spiced Lancer. A brand new EVO VIII costs almost 200.000 Reais!

Same theory is true about the Xsara. My Citroën Xsara VTS, with 180HP is just a spiced version of the normal Xsara. The difference is that it costed 18.000 Reais.

Living in a big city with traffic jams and so on, that is perfect value for looks, and performance. Why bother having a 200+ hp car?

PS: I'm not saying the Xsara VTS is a better car than a EVO VII. It would be too damn stupid if i said something like that. But if you compare performance, and price (at least in Brazil), the Evo is just too expensive.

[g_sepp]

It cost 15k to get a car registered stright from japan. I was looking at doing it but it wasn't worth it

[Zilog Jones]

I feel sorry for you merkins -_- Japanese imports have been common in Ireland for the past 20 years or so, but then again we drive on the right (i.e. left) side of the road for starters ^_^.

With normal family cars it's a damn sight cheaper to get an import than a local second-hand car. Can't really compare the prices of most of the sports cars though as they didn't sell most of them here in the first place!

Here (http://www.enterprisecars.com/) is a link to one of my local importers - kinda weird that they're mainly a Kia dealer (cheap-ass Korean cars), and the main page of their website shows a picture of a Nissan Silvia! They don't seem to have that many imports right now - any of the cars in the "used" section without number plates are Japanese imports, for example the '98 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V (€19,500) and the '94 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R for €10,750 - looks like quite a lot for such an old car, but Japanese imports are usually in scarily good condition.

[Tachikoma]

Oi, we got a Kia!

They are quite good for a mega cheap family car...

[Primergy]

I absolutely LOVE those japanese Mini-Vans
from the Subaru 360-van on - weee

Friend has a Subaru Libero (http://www.zalamedia.hu/autozala/autopesti/images/P1010007.jpg)... that thingy even got 4WD yeehaw
Went to quite a few open-airs with that.

Well I want to have a Honda City Turbo (http://www.luk-korbmacher.de/Autos/Honda/Kleinwagen/City/city1turbo.htm) (old Jazz in EU)
Real "You are under Arrest (http://www.ranmaofdallas.net/taiho/miyuki_car.jpg)" style :D

[Zilog Jones]

Oi, we got a Kia!

They are quite good for a mega cheap family car...
Sorry - I meant more "cheap" than "ass" ^_^ - Kia have come a long way in recent years... thank God they stopped making the Kia Pride (a.k.a. Ford Festiva/Mazda 121)!

Still, my quest is to get a Daihatsu Naked Turbo G...

[madhatter256]

$30k for Lancer EVO VIII isn't too bad considering what you're getting. The new MR edition costs approx $35k.
I have my eye on an EVO for my next car....oh yes!


The Americanized EVO8 is, imo, a bastardized version. I'm seeing used Evo8s being sold for $18k and up, but no more than $25k. They depreciate in value compared to other japanese imports, and since its an "american" mitsubishi, you can't trust them in reliability. Of course, this is just an opinion based on personal experience.

[retro]

Japan is a good source for cars IF you want a Japanese car. Pretty crap for European or American!!!

Zilog - Ireland is a popular place for them because all the nicked cars disappear to Dubei then go to Ireland ;)

[Zilog Jones]

Japan is a good source for cars IF you want a Japanese car. Pretty crap for European or American!!!
Yeah, they're a bit odd when it comes to importing European cars - they seem to like getting left-hand-drive versions for that extra authenticness despite it being quite hideously dangerous O_o


Zilog - Ireland is a popular place for them because all the nicked cars disappear to Dubei then go to Ireland ;)
Ah they're not all like that! Yeah I know the likes of the Yakuza do their fair share of "importing" too, but I think a lot of that's stopped now. It's pretty easy to tell which were the dodgy dealers anyway - they'd often also sell even dodgier stolen/two-cars-stuck-together UK imports! I'd never trust a Vauxhall sold over here -_-

[WanganRunner]

The American Evo VIII is functionally identical to the Japanese car except for:

A.) RHD vs. LHD

B.) The US Evo VIII does not have AYC (Active Yaw Control) <---this is my big beef, but interestingly, it still doesn't stop the US car from performing essentially up-to-spec with its JDM counterpart, especially not with the new ACD (Active Center Differential) in the MR Models.

[AnalogWinter]

B.) The US Evo VIII does not have AYC (Active Yaw Control) <---this is my big beef, but interestingly, it still doesn't stop the US car from performing essentially up-to-spec with its JDM counterpart, especially not with the new ACD (Active Center Differential) in the MR Models.

I agree, this is one feature I wish was on the US version but it is good to see that it doesn't hamper performance. I also read that the gastank on the US version is larger then their Japanese counterpart, is this true?

If I were to by an Evo right now I would probably opt for the MR, although 5k more for one gear is a bit expensive. I have seen 03s and 04s for sale below 25k, but I have read from reviews and peoples personal experiences that these engines will leak oil like crazy if you don't break them in properly from the get go.

My only real gripe is that the trunk spoiler is not optional on the VIII and MR versions.


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[WanganRunner]

I agree, this is one feature I wish was on the US version but it is good to see that it doesn't hamper performance. I also read that the gastank on the US version is larger then their Japanese counterpart, is this true?

If I were to by an Evo right now I would probably opt for the MR, although 5k more for one gear is a bit expensive. I have seen 03s and 04s for sale below 25k, but I have read from reviews and peoples personal experiences that these engines will leak oil like crazy if you don't break them in properly from the get go.

My only real gripe is that the trunk spoiler is not optional on the VIII and MR versions.


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The MR package includes an awful lot more than just that extra gear. If all you want is the 6MT, just wait for an '06 Evo IX, as they'll all be 6-speed. The MR includes better wheels, shocks, faster-spooling turbo, and tons of other innovations that set it apart from the stock Evo VIII.

Yes, 4G63's are a handful when not broken in properly, same with the EJ20T from the WRX.

You WANT that trunk spoiler. I previously owned a wingless WRX and it was all over the place over 80mph, just am aerodynamic nightmare. The STi, with it's bigass wing, feels very planted at high speed. I'd imagine it's the same with the Evo. These cars are too unaerodynamic and high off the ground to get by without the big wings, they're there for a reason.

Much as I may like Evos, I like older Japanese cars even more. I'll take any one of these, thank you very much....

KPGC10 "Hakosuka" Skyline GT-R
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/buta-gc10.jpg

KPGC110 "Ken and Mary" Skyline GT-R
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/imae.h2.jpg

S30 Fairlady Z
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/noguti_z2.jpg

AE86 Levin
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/kakuya4.jpg

R31 Skyline (this particular car has an RB26DETT swap)
http://cwaweb.bai.ne.jp/~kgc10/takemura_tune/siroside1.jpeg

[AnalogWinter]

Thx for the info, I was unaware of some of the other features the MR had over the VIII. It's good to know the spoiler actually helps in performance, but it still looks horrible.

Will the Evo IX be on par with the MR as far as features/options? What would I look for in a used Evo or WRX/STi that may led to a problem down the road?

Very nice pics. I love the old Skylines, the design and stance is great. The only vintage Japanese car I have seen around here was a mid 80’s Corolla (85-65).

My favorite Evo is the IV circa 1997. The body styling is great, as well as the front clip. I would be happy with a stock version of the IV, in white preferably.


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The MR package includes an awful lot more than just that extra gear. If all you want is the 6MT, just wait for an '06 Evo IX, as they'll all be 6-speed. The MR includes better wheels, shocks, faster-spooling turbo, and tons of other innovations that set it apart from the stock Evo VIII.

Yes, 4G63's are a handful when not broken in properly, same with the EJ20T from the WRX.

You WANT that trunk spoiler. I previously owned a wingless WRX and it was all over the place over 80mph, just am aerodynamic nightmare. The STi, with it's bigass wing, feels very planted at high speed. I'd imagine it's the same with the Evo. These cars are too unaerodynamic and high off the ground to get by without the big wings, they're there for a reason.

Much as I may like Evos, I like older Japanese cars even more. I'll take any one of these, thank you very much....

KPGC10 "Hakosuka" Skyline GT-R
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/buta-gc10.jpg

KPGC110 "Ken and Mary" Skyline GT-R
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/imae.h2.jpg

S30 Fairlady Z
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/noguti_z2.jpg

AE86 Levin
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/kakuya4.jpg

R31 Skyline (this particular car has an RB26DETT swap)
http://cwaweb.bai.ne.jp/%7Ekgc10/takemura_tune/siroside1.jpeg

[WanganRunner]

Thx for the info, I was unaware of some of the other features the MR had over the VIII. It's good to know the spoiler actually helps in performance, but it still looks horrible.

Will the Evo IX be on par with the MR as far as features/options? What would I look for in a used Evo or WRX/STi that may led to a problem down the road?

Very nice pics. I love the old Skylines, the design and stance is great. The only vintage Japanese car I have seen around here was a mid 80’s Corolla (85-65).

My favorite Evo is the IV circa 1997. The body styling is great, as well as the front clip. I would be happy with a stock version of the IV, in white preferably.


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That's funny, the IV is my favorite too, I like the three-support rear wing and the headlights.

The IX will incorporate a lot of what made the MR the MR, like the ACD, quicker-spooling turbo and 6-speed. The regular Evo IX will likely not include the nice wheels or Bilstein suspension of the MR, but if you're going to swap your wheels and buy coilovers like so many do, it's a moot point anyway.

I imagine that there will be some sort of special edition IX also, as it is sort of the last of the line. Mitsu has gone on record saying that with the Evo X, they plan on completely reinventing the concept, sort of like starting all over from 1 again, so the IX will likely be the last of what any of us might recognize as a Lancer Evolution.