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SuperGrafx
08-11-2005, 10:13 AM
I recently played the demo of "Stolen" on one of the recent Xbox Magazine demo discs. The other night, I was browsing through an old Dreamcast Magazine and noticed a game that was in development called "Picassio" which I don't believe ever saw light of day on the DC. The more I look at these two titles, the more similarities I see between them.

Stolen does seem to retain many of the elements that Picassio was said to have...both games feature a female thief, the element of stealing goods, and oddly enough, a very dated appearance. Is all this merely coincidental or did the developers of Picassio take their ideas to the next-gen systems after the DC failed?


Stolen
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/246147.asp

Picassio
http://img.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Dreamcast/Strategy/Tactical/picassio_profilethumb.jpg

Taemos
08-11-2005, 10:44 AM
The second link isn't working for me:

"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /p/Games/Dreamcast/Strategy/Tactical/picassio_profilethumb.jpg on this server."

I've never heard of "Picasso" before, though. I'll try to find another article on it.

Edit: I found this in an article on the EBGames page: http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/media/relatedmedia.asp?pf_id=246147&element_id=A6118546&intDeptTab=22


"I've been working on Stolen for approximately all eternity. I started on the project five years ago when it was a single-line concept on a sheet of paper. In that time, I've helped to work it up through various incarnations and playable prototypes of varying quality to where it is today."

SuperGrafx
08-11-2005, 10:53 AM
The second link isn't working for me:

"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /p/Games/Dreamcast/Strategy/Tactical/picassio_profilethumb.jpg on this server."

I've never heard of "Picasso" before, though. I'll try to find another article on it.

Edit: I found this in an article on the EBGames page: http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/media/relatedmedia.asp?pf_id=246147&element_id=A6118546&intDeptTab=22


"I've been working on Stolen for approximately all eternity. I started on the project five years ago when it was a single-line concept on a sheet of paper. In that time, I've helped to work it up through various incarnations and playable prototypes of varying quality to where it is today."

Regarding the link that won't open, it was this image:
http://img.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Dreamcast/Strategy/Tactical/picassio_profilethumb.jpg

That article on EB Games is interesting...perhaps my theory is correct after all?

Taemos
08-11-2005, 11:10 AM
I still don't see it. Maybe it's my connection...

cahaz
08-11-2005, 11:19 AM
i don't see it either.

Roi
08-11-2005, 11:28 AM
No the developer has gone bankrupt a few years ago :( . And I don't think Stolen is a non violent game..

SuperGrafx
08-11-2005, 11:35 AM
No the developer has gone bankrupt a few years ago :( . And I don't think Stolen is a non violent game..

There's violence in it...but it does revolve more around knocking out guards versus actually killing them. Guards can kill you though.

SuperGrafx
08-11-2005, 11:36 AM
I still don't see it. Maybe it's my connection...

Try this link then:
http://www.neoseeker.com/Games/Products/DC/picassio/

madhatter256
08-11-2005, 11:44 AM
Copy the link to the direct image and paste it into the URL, thats how I got to see it. What type of game is this?

SuperGrafx
08-11-2005, 11:58 AM
Copy the link to the direct image and paste it into the URL, thats how I got to see it. What type of game is this?

It's a crude Splinter Cell with thieving elements.
Very poorly done (if the Xbox demo is any indication) with some suspect control and very dated graphics. Would have been somewhat revolutionary if this had come out on the DC (assuming this is indeed Picassio), but on the xbox it's just another "me-too" stealth game.

Yakumo
08-11-2005, 12:12 PM
Copy and paste the link, then it will work.

http://img.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Dreamcast/Strategy/Tactical/picassio_profilethumb.jpg

Yakumo

Taemos
08-11-2005, 01:02 PM
That worked.

It does indeed look like an older version of "Stolen." It would also make sense, going by what the article said.

SuperGrafx
08-11-2005, 01:09 PM
That worked.

It does indeed look like an older version of "Stolen." It would also make sense, going by what the article said.

Heh.
I would never have made the connection unless I had rummaged through some of my older DC mags. The second I saw the pics I was like "I swear I've played that before!"

Roi
08-11-2005, 03:02 PM
There's violence in it...but it does revolve more around knocking out guards versus actually killing them. Guards can kill you though.

I thought you couldn't kill someone, only knock them out..




-edit-


Picassio is billed as a nonviolent game. It will combine the first person interface of many familiar shooting games, but all you'll have is a dart gun. You'll be able to knock out museum guards but they will wake up and they will try to get some help from their security guard buddies as soon as possible. You'll also be able to incapacitate enemies with chloroform but all of these offensive attacks are only intended to give you time to complete your mission. There's no need to go around taking out every enemy in a level if all you're supposed to do is get in, get the loot and get out.

IGN

SuperGrafx
08-11-2005, 03:29 PM
I thought you couldn't kill someone, only knock them out..




-edit-

IGN

That IGN review sounds exactly like the premise of Stolen. I'll play more of the demo tonight to refresh my memory a bit.

Sweater Fish Deluxe
08-13-2005, 02:01 PM
Regarding the link that won't open, it was this image:
http://img.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Dreamcast/Strategy/Tactical/picassio_profilethumb.jpg

That article on EB Games is interesting...perhaps my theory is correct after all?
I think Picassio was in development even before 2000 (which would be five years ago), though. I remember it was one of the very first Dreamcast games that I was really looking forward to.

Also, i don't think your character in Picassio was going to be female. The screenshots I remember featured a person with facial hair...which I suppose could have been a girl...I've known a couple girls with facial hair...but those are other stories for other days.


...word is bondage...

AntiPasta
08-14-2005, 03:43 PM
Also, i don't think your character in Picassio was going to be female. The screenshots I remember featured a person with facial hair...which I suppose could have been a girl...I've known a couple girls with facial hair...but those are other stories for other days.


Ah, I see we've been to the same flea market! :smt082

Roi
10-26-2005, 04:37 PM
I think Picassio was in development even before 2000 (which would be five years ago), though. I remember it was one of the very first Dreamcast games that I was really looking forward to.

Also, i don't think your character in Picassio was going to be female. The screenshots I remember featured a person with facial hair...which I suppose could have been a girl...I've known a couple girls with facial hair...but those are other stories for other days.


...word is bondage...

Picassio did have some female characters!

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4244/femalefacepicassioassembler4dm.th.jpg (http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=femalefacepicassioassembler4dm.jpg)
http://tinypic.com/f0uu78.jpg
http://tinypic.com/f0uucp.jpg





CHARACTERS -
There are many different characters within the game ranging from menacing security gaurds to sultry females


Rick Malone
Katrine
Credence
Randy Sanger


The characters have a wide range of skills and manouvers


Bob
Riajade
Kaito
Mike

koolkid13
10-26-2005, 05:41 PM
where did you get those pictures/why is there an ASSEMbler watermark?

link343
10-29-2005, 12:03 AM
yes. Where did you get those pictures and why is there an ASSMbler Watermark?

arsenal
10-29-2005, 01:36 AM
Pcasso might have eventually become stoned yes.

Roi
10-29-2005, 07:07 AM
I put Assembler watermarkt in it so people won't steal it :). If you guys like it I'll put all my pictures online ?

madhatter256
10-29-2005, 02:57 PM
You guys have to copy and paste the second link. THe server doesn't allow hotlinking, thats why it isn't showing up when you click on it.

Anyway. Maybe what that employee who posted that was actually talking about "Picasso".

Maybe the rights were bought and then evolved into Stolen.

SuperGrafx
10-31-2005, 05:35 PM
You guys have to copy and paste the second link. THe server doesn't allow hotlinking, thats why it isn't showing up when you click on it.

Anyway. Maybe what that employee who posted that was actually talking about "Picasso".

Maybe the rights were bought and then evolved into Stolen.

I've been studying some of the little details like the wall textures and overall architecture of the few Picassio screenshots versus what's in Stolen and there do seem to be some coincidental similarities.
Haven't seen any real identical matches, but who knows just how far along Picassio really was anyway.