GPx2 :O

[Evangelion-01]

http://www.talfi.net/e107/e107_images/newspost_images/gpx2.gif
Product nameGPX2-F100
CPUDual CPU Cores
ARM920T : Host processor
ARM940T : Video Coprocessor

NAND Flash Memory64MB
Dimension 143.6mm* 82.9mm*34mm
RAM32MB
StorageSD Card
Connection Type2.0 high speed
O/S Linux
Power supply2AA
Display3.5" TFT LCD
Resolution320*240(QVGA)

Video file MPEG, MPEG4, Dvix 3.11,4x,5x, XVID, WMV Playback,
Audio file MP3,OGG,WMA
Resolution MAX 720*480
Frame Rate Max 30 fps
Bit Rate Video Max: 1178 Kbps
Audio Max: 384Kbps

Caption SMI

No. Channels Stereo(L+R)
Frequency Rate 20Hz~20KHz
File WMA,OGG,MP3
Bit rate sampling 16bit/8~48KHz
Equalizer Normal, Classic, Rock, Jazz, Pop
Additional Function e-book, game, electronic dictionary




Image Viwer
JPG, BMP, PCX, GIF




Continuous
playback time
Video Approx. 8 hours
Audio Approx. 14hours
note: all info stolen from http://www.gpx2.com/ :)

[g_sepp]

i want one

[Kron]

Shame they have decided to use AA batteries and not Lith-Ion. And I hope the game support is better for this one than the 32 as well.

[Taemos]

Is this the GP32's successor? If so, it's looking good :).

[Mr. Casual]

That thing looks so cool!

EDIT: OMFG, GOTTA GET ONE NOWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"Gaming: CPU which has 2D accelerator enables you enjoy games anytime anywhere. Meet the exclusive GPX2 games along with abundant emulators such as MAME, SNES, Genesis, PC Engine etc"

[The VGM]

look like a NGPC.

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

holy hell.....................I WANT ONE SO BAD...nice system looks wise.......i wonder if the d-pad is anything like the ngpc..

[Evangelion-01]

it looks overall really decent for emulation and the little stick looks awesome too, but the 2x AA... thats kinda bad... i dont want to buy batteries :\

[Fabrizo]

But the real question (at least for me) is is it backwords compatible with the GP32?

[XerdoPwerko]

This system looks very, VERY impressive.

I guess we'll have to wait for more info, though, on whether emulation actually works on it, and... well, if it really DOES come out. I've seen too many good consoles go vapour, at least in terms of portables.

It does look insanely sweet, though.

[Mr. Casual]

Man, Im sold if it can emulate SNES. I can play Translated Japanese ROMS on it all day! Wonder how much it will be?

[Yakumo]

Emulation will be fine on it ! This is from the official site !!

"Enjoy Games with GPX2 now!
CPU which has 2D accelerator enables you enjoy games anytime anywhere. Meet the exclusive GPX2 games along with abundant emulators such as MAME, SNES, Genesis, PC Engine etc "

Very odd how they support emulation :p

Yakumo

[Mr. Casual]

Yep, they're going to get sued by a lot of gaming companies, as many as they named...

[Evangelion-01]

if its cheap and supports emulation "fast...", i guess i'll just buy it and update my psp :)

[Mr. Casual]

How much money, Maximum, would you pay for it?

[Yakumo]

For a 100% perfect EMU compatable machine of anything up to Neo Geo I'd pay a nice 15'000 yen ! I don't need original games as long as EMU is fine. I just recently bought two 512 MB SD cards as well for my phone so that I can watch movies and listen to music on the move so I could use the ither in this machine :)

Yakumo

[Evangelion-01]

they said it would be alot cheaper than the gp32 blue, which is about 200euros? "correct me if i am wrong" so 150/200 is doable.

[Yakumo]

Hmm, I may think about getting one. I mostly game on the move using my phone (really in to Valis at the moment) since portable consoles just don't do anything for me but if the GPX2 is movie, MP3 and emulation compatable then it may just steal my phones place thanks to the bigger screen :)

Yakumo

[Taemos]

I'm so buying one of these if the price is around the $150 mark.

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

i dont think we'll see them get sued as much as you think, of course, game park will just say that they support the emulators and open source roms only......i wonder if the linux its running is anything like redhat, or knoppix....that would be awesome.......is their anything about a north american release, every time i go to the site is screws up my ie...

[XerdoPwerko]

Maybe it was for the good that I've been too broke to buy a damn DS in the first place... and if this does fully support NES, Snes, Genesis and PCE, then I guess I'll love getting this one...

It'll be really sad if it goes vapour of it doesn't deliver, though. Screen quality and battery life might be issues as well. Still, though, colour me excited. Does it look like it have shoulder buttons? Snes emulation without those might be futile.

[Taemos]

Those things look like shoulder buttons to me.

I won't lie to anyone, I'd be getting this thing purely for emulation. The movies are a plus, but I doubt I'd ever use it for that. Are the GP32 games any good? I might end up getting some of those...

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

the gp32 games(the ones commercially avaible) look okay......but like everyone else..its purely for the emulation

[Suzuka]

What about 3D acceleration?

Why didn't they throw in a dirt cheap 50Mhz MBX Lite?

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

well...the system main ploy is too emulate older 2d stuff...and also as a media player.....im sure the we wont see many games pulling off 3d that were directly released by gp...though we will prolly see games like quake and hexen on it eventyally, just not doom 3

[Mr. Casual]

If you havent noticed on customer suggestion (I put my forum name, BTW :P) , I asked how much it would be and the admin said and I quote,

It would be under 200bucks.

Im defienitely getting one of these.

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

now only if they would commit to a north american release

[Mr. Casual]

Well, he said bucks, so...

[Zilog Jones]

Resolution320*240(QVGA)
That's not too great, especially from an emulation point of view -_-
It'll be fine for old Sega games (MD, system 16, etc.) as they're 320x224 (so there'll only be slight letterboxing), and Neo-Geo games will have borders around the screen as they're 304x224. Those two are fine - I play them on my PC at 320x240 most the time and it's acceptable. But then comes most other things - NES and SNES games are 256x224 - this will give a crappy square picture, or if resized, a blurry mess (resizing to a res. only slightly bigger like that will suck eggs whatever way they do it). Same goes for a lot of standard res. arcade games - some are 288x224, which will also look kinda shite. And CPS games are 384x224, which could be gack as well.

Also, some SNES games use a 512-line high resolution mode - such as the menus in Secret of Mana & Seiken Densetsu 3 - which will be unreadable on such a low resolution screen.

[Evangelion-01]

well, is better than having 40% of the psp screen black :)

[Taemos]

That's not too great, especially from an emulation point of view -_-
It'll be fine for old Sega games (MD, system 16, etc.) as they're 320x224 (so there'll only be slight letterboxing), and Neo-Geo games will have borders around the screen as they're 304x224. Those two are fine - I play them on my PC at 320x240 most the time and it's acceptable. But then comes most other things - NES and SNES games are 256x224 - this will give a crappy square picture, or if resized, a blurry mess (resizing to a res. only slightly bigger like that will suck eggs whatever way they do it). Same goes for a lot of standard res. arcade games - some are 288x224, which will also look kinda shite. And CPS games are 384x224, which could be gack as well.

Also, some SNES games use a 512-line high resolution mode - such as the menus in Secret of Mana & Seiken Densetsu 3 - which will be unreadable on such a low resolution screen.

It's a price I'm willing to pay. :)

[JTI2K]

ARM940T : Video Coprocessor
O/S Linux
Resolution320*240(QVGA)

I see a weak GPU, a bad choice OS (should been QNX) and the same old screen from the GP32 (not that bad, its better than the DS ones, but it could be 480X320, or even a VGA one)

BTW: "Gaming: CPU which has 2D accelerator enables you enjoy games anytime anywhere. Meet the exclusive GPX2 games along with abundant emulators such as MAME, SNES, Genesis, PC Engine etc"

They are goin to be sued to death:smt071

You simply cant say that it will play other consoles games (with or without emus) cuz then you are supporting piracy.

Those dumvb koreans should keep the emu shit to themselves and wait to someone like Yoyo to release the emus..........

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

yea but will that stop us from buying one?....and plus its korea land of the ripp-off...so what did you expect

[WolverineDK]

Ryan: that consoles is called an open source console, just like the first one. Because it was made first for Korea, but it was a smack succes around the world, because of the "opensource" thing to it.

[cahaz]

Oh man.... i guess the DS will wait! this system is sleek, sober and beautiful, it doesn't look like that toy looking gp32. What will you be able to emulate correctly with this? Will you be able to play, let's say metal slug on the Neo-geo? Can it handle 3d? What couldn't be emulated on the first gp console? (i'm no GP32 expert, sorry)

Do you know if it will come out in stores? In america? I might pick one, if it's not too expensive. it could make a good mp3 player too (the battery life is kinda low though), and a cheap alternative to a PSP for emulators and all (the only thing that apeal me so far, i must admit)

Damn, I'm pumped up! :D

(sorry!)

[JTI2K]

Ryan: that consoles is called an open source console, just like the first one

The GP32 was never a "real" opensuource console. It began as a direct competitor for the GBA, but samsung dropt the idea of selling it overseas.

Like the local market couldnt provide a great number of games for the console, GP released the SDK (that was a piece of shit) to the public, and becos the machine used SMCs and was pretty cheap, programmers begun to do things with it, and little by little it found its way to the videogame underground, us.

[Hawanja]

The best news I've seen in a while. Never got around to getting a GP32, glad to see there's a successor comming out. Maybe I'll just have to get this instead of a PSP this Christmas.

[XerdoPwerko]

The thing that worries me is the "specifications might change" disclaimer on the site.

I'm very excited about this thing, but we need to wait until it's out to see what features stay and what features go vapour.

[cahaz]

that could also be a great thing, you know?

imagine they change the life battery from 14 to 20 or 30 hours? :D

[XerdoPwerko]

I hadn't seen it that way, Cahaz.

You're right. I guess I'm too pesimistic some times.

[JTI2K]

imagine they change the life battery from 14 to 20 or 30 hours? :D

Or the screen to VGA :smt030 :smt023

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

Ryan: that consoles is called an open source console, just like the first one. Because it was made first for Korea, but it was a smack succes around the world, because of the "opensource" thing to it.'


i know it was open source...ive been looking at the stuff available for the console...and it amazes me....everything from doom to d&d games to operating systems, i just wish it could replace home computers...that would be awesome!

[cahaz]

i dont think we'll see them get sued as much as you think, of course, game park will just say that they support the emulators and open source roms only......i wonder if the linux its running is anything like redhat, or knoppix....that would be awesome.......is their anything about a north american release, every time i go to the site is screws up my ie...

that would be really nice indeed, i wonder if you'll be able to play easly with the OS to do anything you want. :) like plugging internet on the usb slot, or things like that. :)

[bnwim]

The thing that worries me is the "specifications might change" disclaimer on the site.

I'm very excited about this thing, but we need to wait until it's out to see what features stay and what features go vapour.

- Final changes: RAM 64 MB & TV out

- It isn´t backwards compatible with GP32, different OS

- This "machine" is from Gameparks Holdings, not from Gamepark (orginal Gamepark was divided).

- November is the month, 150 - 200 €


Gamepark has XGP, it isn´t opensource & more expensive than GPX2:

CPU: ARM920T 200 mhz

GPU: Supports OpenGL-ES

RAM: DDR 64 MB (200 mhz) / NAND Flash 64 MB

LCD: 4" / Resolution: 480 x 272

Storage: SD

Battery: Lithium Ion (internal)

Others: TV out, WIFI (802.11 b/g) & DMB player (only Korea)


And Samsung has GPang (http://gpang.magicn.com/index.asp) (like Ngage):

http://xataka.com/archivos/images/GPANG1.jpg

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

are you serious?

[bnwim]

are you serious?

- XGP (Gamepark): http://www.gamepark.com/

- GPX2 (Gamepark Holdings): http://www.gpx2.com/

Changes on GPX2 -> RAM (http://www.gpx2.com/support/support_sugest_view.asp?part=00&indexNo=608&bunho=5) - TV-out (http://www.gp32spain.com/) (sorry, this one only in spanish)

- GPANG (Samsung): http://gpang.magicn.com/index.asp

[cahaz]

what will you be able to do with the XGP then? i mean, it's more powerfull and all, but if the opensource is removed, what's left? Why can't they make a gpx2 with the power of the xgp? and why can't the gpx2 use lithium ion batteries!? damn.

As for the retro compatibility with gp32, i imagine the community will be able to emulate its OS with a bit of work.

[bnwim]

what will you be able to do with the XGP then? i mean, it's more powerfull and all, but if the opensource is removed, what's left? Why can't they make a gpx2 with the power of the xgp? and why can't the gpx2 use lithium ion batteries!? damn.

As for the retro compatibility with gp32, i imagine the community will be able to emulate its OS with a bit of work.

Gamepark was divided because one part wanted to do a "commercial videogame system" a little expensive (XGP - only for Korea) and "Gamepark Holdings" wanted to do a cheap opensource system (GPX2).

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

wow....so are is gamepark holdings still affilated with gamepark....both systems seem quite similar....
man i hope we get the gpx2

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

The GP32 was never a "real" opensuource console. It began as a direct competitor for the GBA, but samsung dropt the idea of selling it overseas.

Like the local market couldnt provide a great number of games for the console, GP released the SDK (that was a piece of shit) to the public, and becos the machine used SMCs and was pretty cheap, programmers begun to do things with it, and little by little it found its way to the videogame underground, us.
This isn't true. I followed the development of the GP32 from before its Korean release (back when they actually had good designs for the system) and it was always hyped as having an openly available SDK. The commercial games were never supposed to be open source and they never were, but the SDK was always going to be available to anyone who wanted one.

I know you guys are hyped on the emulation stuff and it is cool, but you really shouldn't ignore the homebrew games either, some really amazing stuff came out on the GP32. Hopefully the GPX2 will get the same kind of scene.

From what I've heard Gamepark and Gamepark Holdings are now separate entities and the name of Gamepark Holdings will be changing shgortly to avoid confusion (though the names of the consoles will probably remain the same in order to create confusion).

AA batteries is a great choice in my opinion. Just use high capacity NiHMs and you'll get about the same performance you would from a small Li-Ion pack, plus you also have the option of going into any store and buying more batterires if you run out somewhere where you wouldn't have the option of recharging a Li-Ion pack. It would be nice if the system was able to recharge NiHMs internally just by plugging it into a wall rather than needing a separate charger, though.

And yes, that stick will be very much like the NGPC stick, not quite as good because of the physical design differences that you can see (it's not sunken into a little well which is the best design), but it is indeed a microswitch clicky stick just like on the original GP32.


...word is bondage...

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

- Final changes: RAM 64 MB & TV out
TV-Out!!! Yikes! If that turns out to be true, I may be in love. Yikes, I say.


...word is bondage...

[cahaz]

http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp/bgallery0.jpg
http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp/bgallery2.jpg
http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp/bgallery1.jpg

http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp/bgallery3.jpg
http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp/bgallery4.jpg





Damn, that's sexy as hell!

and here it is in Black!

http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp/bgallery8.jpg

and here's a GPX2 vs XGP page i found on gp32.com:
http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp.php

what's that open sdk on the xgp? and will you be able to play emulators on it?
Damn, i guess the DS will really need to wait, and i'll take one as my mp3 player at the same time. Poor DS :(

- EDIT -

WTF? i just read that on the gpx2 faq:
GPX2 has a backlighting function.
Holding a button for a few seconds will shut off the light, there is no dedicated button if i understand, if you press, let's say ''x'' for a long time, the screen backlight will go off. 0_o


and what is a usb host?

[the_steadster]

USB Host means it can work like your computer does with USB - e.g. you could plug in your digital camera to the gpx2 and download the photos to it.

[cahaz]

so i could plug an mp3 player and change the files without the help of a pc?, or you could share things between 2 gpx2? DAng! why don't they put that super interesting feature on it? certainly to reduce costs, but i would pay more to have usb host on my gpx2. :(

now does anyone know the length and wdth of the system? i know i'm crazy, but if i buy one, i'll need to say goodbye to an specialized mp3 player to respect my budget, but i don't want that damn big thing that wouldn't fit in my pocket, you know?

nevermind, here's the dimensions 143.6mm / 82.9mm / 34 mm.

not that bad, i guess.


And...


* We advise you the design and features could be changed for better quality :smt045

Also,..


Dear public,

Although we have the name Gpx2 on our site, the product name will be changed and we want you to name it!
We will be accepting names for the next Gamepark Holdings system until August 15th and we will select a winner on August 25th.
The lucky winner of our contest will win the system.
Some rules apply

1) Product name: Should contain more than 3 letters
2) Product meaning: Reasoning for the name
3) Email Address must be included
4) Logo upload: If you would like to make a logo please make it in .gif or .jpg format (optional)
5) Duration: Contest will end August 15th
6) Winner: Winner will be announced on August 25th
7) Prize: The new Gamepark Holdings system will be given to the lucky winner

Selected product name and logo will be under the jurisdiction of Gamepark Holdings

Good luck!!

[JTI2K]

This isn't true. I followed the development of the GP32 from before its Korean release (back when they actually had good designs for the system) and it was always hyped as having an openly available SDK.

If you dont mind I would want to have some proofs on that, since i followed the project from the early desings too, and only heard of the open SDK when they released it.

Anyways, why they have to use SDs? SMC were already a pain in the ass, why dont go with CFs? theres an awful lot of IO devices for that format.

BTW, since they are goin to use the same screen that the GP32 (they are, right?) why dont use a GBASP-like layout? You know, to make it more portable.

[AntiPasta]

Nice piece of kit. I loved the original GP32 with its ease of development and "scene".

However, I find it rather amusing that everybody starts creaming his pants as soon as emulators are mentioned, to almost gamefaqs-like proportions. Of course, you have all the right to, and I shouldnt sound so elitist... but it's nothing new! You get to play old games, which you probably will download illegally, and play them with all the emulation deficiencies on a screen they were not intended for with a control scheme they weren't intended for. Wow, I'd rather play them on real hardware and actually own the games, and look out for the original stuff to be done on this console. But then, I don't like emulation, to each his own.

[cahaz]

Well, i'm more ''creaming my pants'' because of the affordable multimedia station it makes , the power it have (compared to it's predecessor), the hombrew community and what we could see on that thing because of it's power, ease of developing and because of its OS (wich is linux, i believe). I'm almost forgeting it sleek style AND that it can emulate old consoles. that's just the cherry on the top of the sundae to me. And it's everything i want from the psp, but cheaper. (well, there's no 16:9 screen, but that's pretty useless for video clips, music and emulators anyway.)

So the psp is out of my mind for a long time now, and i wanted a mp3 player also, so..

[RyanGamerGoneGrazy]

well put.......yawn...im off to bed..or at least to my 'cube

[bnwim]

XGP (from Gamepark): Now open SDK

http://www.gp32spain.com/reviews/xgp/xgp_01.jpg

http://www.gp32spain.com/reviews/xgp/xgp_02.jpg

http://www.gp32spain.com/reviews/xgp/xgp_20.jpg

Pics stolen from gp32spain.com (http://www.gp32spain.com)


WTF? i just read that on the gpx2 faq: if i understand, if you press, let's say ''x'' for a long time, the screen backlight will go off. 0_o

Yes, like the GP32 BLU

[cahaz]

i don't know a thing about the gp32, so i don't know what is gp32blu. :(

anyway, that xgp of yours looks like a cheap psp pirate handheld. i was unsure of wich i would take, 'cause the xgp had a 16:10 screen, more power and 3d capabilities, but that XGP doesn't apeal me at all design wise, i think it's bulky ugly, and way too psp wanna be.

but it still have usb hosting, lithium ion batteries, 3d capabilities and something to protect the screen while listening to music that the gpx2 doesn't. :(

i'm lost.

EDIT-

there's 2 xgp version on those screens btw.

[bnwim]

i don't know a thing about the gp32, so i don't know what is gp32blu. :(

if you press the "select" button during 2-3 seconds on GP32 BLU (Back Light Unit; there are 3 GPs, "original GP32", "GP32 FLU" or "Front Light Unit" and "GP32 BLU") you´ll turn off the "illuminated" screen.


anyway, that xgp of yours looks like a cheap psp pirate handheld. i was unsure of wich i would take, 'cause the xgp had a 16:10 screen, more power and 3d capabilities, but that XGP doesn't apeal me at all design wise, i think it's bulky ugly, and way too psp wanna be.

but it still have usb hosting, lithium ion batteries, 3d capabilities and something to protect the screen while listening to music that the gpx2 doesn't. :(

i'm lost.

EDIT-

there's 2 xgp version on those screens btw.

XGP has a 3D accelerator, but you can use it only for "comercial games" (and they could be in Korean, like a lot of comercial games from GP32) and a few homebrew games.

XGP has a 16:10 screen, (I think) only good for widescreen videos.

GPX2 has a 2D accelerator, a good choice for homebrew, but bad for 3D games.

[cahaz]

thx for the for the explainations. :)

i'm way more attracted by the gpx2, but i'd like to see usb host, online, a better batery life and a dedicated backlight button, No matter how higher the price will get, that would be so sweet. As for 3d, i just hope that somehow the gpx2 will have good ports of Quake 1 and 2, pleeeease! :P

[bnwim]

i'm way more attracted by the gpx2, but i'd like to see usb host, online, a better batery life and a dedicated backlight button, No matter how higher the price will get, that would be so sweet.

GamePark Holdings will relase next year a new version with new features.



As for 3d, i just hope that somehow the gpx2 will have good ports of Quake 1 and 2, pleeeease! :P

GP32 has a port of Quake 1 (now version 0.6).

http://www.gp32spain.com/files/ports/gpquake/1.jpg

[WolverineDK]

XGP vs GPX2

http://www.gp32x.com/gpx2xgp.php

[cahaz]

that sucks, i don't want to wait a year to get a better version. On the other hand, if i wait for that next version, when i'll get it, the homebrew community will be big, the reviews and user comments will be all over the place, and you'll have more choice for commercial games. well, nothing's perfect i guess. :/

but i just don't understand why they couldn't release two versions of the console at the same time, you know? the standard one and the enhanced one, wich would be more expensive of course.