Debug Xbox Stuck in Retail Mode

[98PaceCar]

Hi everybody,

I'm a new poster here at assembler, but I've been reading for a while now. I've recently picked up a debug xbox with the intention of dabbling in console programming. For some reason, it appears that the xbox is locked in retail mode, ie it looks exactly like the dash on my retail box. I'm certain it's a real debug and not a retail converted. The beta games I have all work fine. I've installed the 5849 sdk on top on my vs.net with no problems. I tried burning the recovery iso on to a dvd-r, but no luck. It responds the same as it would if I tried a retail game. I've tried the xdkrecovery.exe with no luck as well. It tells me error connecting or downloading information from xbox. I'm trying to connect by IP address as I'm not sure what the name of the box is. Is there any way to verify that the box is getting an ip or even what it's name is? I have an xbox live beta disk if that helps any. I've also tried connecting through xbox neighborhood, but can't seem to find the box there either.

I'm hoping I'm just missing something simple. I'll try reburning the recovery dvd on different media. That's easy to do. Any other suggestions would be great!

Thanks
Darren

[hl718]

If the debug box is in retail mode the only way to switch it back to debug mode is via a recovery disc. The remote upgrade files will only work with a system that is already in debug mode.

While it is possible that you may have a "special" debug kit with a custom kernel installed, the more likely scenario is that you either have a corrupt recovery.iso or you are burning it improperly. FWIW, don't burn it to a DVD-R, burn it to a CD-RW.

Hope this helps.

-hl718

[98PaceCar]

If the debug box is in retail mode the only way to switch it back to debug mode is via a recovery disc. The remote upgrade files will only work with a system that is already in debug mode.

While it is possible that you may have a "special" debug kit with a custom kernel installed, the more likely scenario is that you either have a corrupt recovery.iso or you are burning it improperly. FWIW, don't burn it to a DVD-R, burn it to a CD-RW.

Hope this helps.

-hl718

Thanks for the info. I've tried opening the iso as well as mounting it in Alcohol 120%, but neither one would let me see anything. I'm assuming it's a special format for the xbox and not necessarily indicative of a corrupt iso? I'm going to head out and pick up a couple CD-RW to try. Thanks again for the pointers!

Darren

[atomiX]

it might ultimately depend on what DVD drive you have in your debug kit. thomson drives don't read CD-R and usually have problems with CD-RW (although it will end up reading the disc). for a thomson, I suggest DVD-R. if it's a philips, go with CD-RW or CD-R and go with CD-R for a samsung.

i'm not sure if all debug kits will come with something other than a thomson but maybe the newer ones do.

if all this fails, then the ISO is most likely corrupt and/or was burned incorrectly.

[98PaceCar]

it might ultimately depend on what DVD drive you have in your debug kit. thomson drives don't read CD-R and usually have problems with CD-RW (although it will end up reading the disc). for a thomson, I suggest DVD-R. if it's a philips, go with CD-RW or CD-R and go with CD-R for a samsung.

i'm not sure if all debug kits will come with something other than a thomson but maybe the newer ones do.

if all this fails, then the ISO is most likely corrupt and/or was burned incorrectly.

It's a thompson drive. I just tried a CD-RW, but got the same thing (message about needing the DVD kit). I'm guessing I'm probably just burning the iso incorrectly. I'm using the slowest speed possible, but are there other settings I need to use? I'll do some searching, I'm sure it's out there somewhere!

Thanks,
Darren

[Topic Archive]

What app are you using to burn the .ISO and how are you doing it?

...Record Now Max is fail safe btw.

...Btw a 'dvd kit required' type message is not a good message to see.

[98PaceCar]

What app are you using to burn the .ISO and how are you doing it?

...Record Now Max is fail safe btw.

...Btw a 'dvd kit required' type message is not a good message to see.

I've tried Nero 6, Alcohol 120%, and Clone DVD 2 so far. In Nero, I found the UDF/ISO xbox video setting, so I was using that. The other 2, I just burnt as default. I'm trying Record Now Max as I type. Hopefully that will get me somewhere!

I was incorrect on my error message. The dvd kit required came up when I tried a retail game. The error I'm getting with the burns I've done is the standard not recognized error. Hopefully that's ok! I can get the exact text if need be.

My Record Now Max burn just finished. I dropped it in the box and I'm still getting the Your Xbox can't recognize this disk error. I burnt to a DVD-R based on a previous reply. I'll try a CD-RW next.

Is there any way to tell if my iso is corrupt? I'm using the one from 5849 out of the recovery with symbols zip file.

Edit: Just found a newer firmware for my dvd burner. Going to try that out next.

Thanks for the help guys! I really do appreciate it!

[hl718]

You shouldn't be fiddling with any settings while burning. Just open Nero or Record Now Max and tell it to burn a disc from an image file. Put in the blank CD-RW and let er rip. Don't try and mount the image or anything like that.

Despite what Atomix claims, don't bother burning to a DVD-R. You're just going to waste discs until you get it right. All of the debug kits can read CD-RW and the recovery.iso is a CD (not DVD) image. At least if you mess up a CD-RW burn you can wipe it and re-burn it. ;)

As for brand, stick with Verbatim discs. They'll treat you right.

-hl718

[Topic Archive]

Blimey you must be well unlucky m8 as it's meant be a 'no brainer' operation...

...If you have the 5849 recovery ISO I'd be surprised if it was corrupt, you could always open it up in summat 'basic' like xISO, or whatever Xbox iso app you prefer.

...If it opens up chances are its not corrupt.

It definately sounds to me like you're burning it wrong, or using incompatible media.

[98PaceCar]

I just tried a new kind of DVD-R media and still no luck. I'm going to pick up some Verbatim CD-RW in a few minutes and give them a shot. I'm also going to take the whole thing over to a friend of mine's house to try out his burner. Mines a couple years old now, so maybe it's got some incompatibilites with the xbox.

Hopefully I can get this thing figured out soon! My beta games are ok, but I really want to try some new stuff!!

[Topic Archive]

"My beta games are ok, but I really want to try some new stuff"

...That statement could mean several things!

...Could you post your Kernal and Dash Versions?

[Pikkon]

What I did is for my debug kit I would switch the xbox dvd drives.I burnt the recovery
cd to a cheap cd-r then installed my samsung drive in my debug kit.What kind of
drive do you have in your retail xbox.Or try to install a new HDD.

[98PaceCar]

"My beta games are ok, but I really want to try some new stuff"

...That statement could mean several things!

...Could you post your Kernal and Dash Versions?

I just don't want to end up with an xbox that all I can do is play the four beta games I have. I was hoping for something I could attempt some programming with. Not expecting anything major to come from my skills, but I want to at least try! Programming nothing but business software gets old quick!!

Both the kernal and dash are version 1.00.4034.01

I had thought about swapping another dvd drive in, but the one in my retail box is a Thompson that has a hard time reading some retail games. I doubt it would read a burnt disk at this point.

If I swap in a new hard drive, I'll still need to be able to boot the recovery disk, right?

[Pikkon]

Well I know for sure that memorex dvd-rw's will work in most
thomspon drives.Have you tried to put a retail audio cd in the
debug kit to see if it plays,also clean the dvd laser with some
rubbing alcohol,thats what I did to my friends xbox then the dvd
drive came back to life.

[Topic Archive]

Are your 4 beta games on DVD-R's?

...If so and they play okay then there's little wrong with your DVD drive.

If you bung in a new HDD 'yes' you will still need to use the recovery disc which your are unable to do, so little point.

[98PaceCar]

I just tried a music cd and it worked ok. Tried a dvd and it told me it needs the dvd playback kit. I even tried one of the oxm demo disks, no luck.

I got a hold of another burner and tried it, but I could only do cd-r and dvd-r on it, no RW. Neither of these worked any different from the burns I've been doing all day.

All 4 of the discs that came with the debug are silvers with the xbox ring in the center. No dvd-r's. I've made arrangements to borrow a samsung drive, so I guess I'll be opening this up.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm pretty certain it's either an issue with the burns or with the drive at this point. Hopefully swapping out the dvd will point me in the right direction.

Darren

[hl718]

I just tried a music cd and it worked ok.

That is exactly what it is supposed to do.


Tried a dvd and it told me it needs the dvd playback kit. I even tried one of the oxm demo disks, no luck.

Again, 100% normal for a Debug Kit.


I got a hold of another burner and tried it, but I could only do cd-r and dvd-r on it, no RW. Neither of these worked any different from the burns I've been doing all day.

CD-R is not officially supported on a Debug Kit. Never has been. As for DVD-R, we've already established that whatever you're trying to do isn't working, so it's rather pointless to keep wasting discs. Track down *someone* with a CD burner and burn a CD-RW. What DVD burner are you using anyway? Professional equipment excepted, I've not seen a DVD-R drive that can't also burn CD-R/RW.


All 4 of the discs that came with the debug are silvers with the xbox ring in the center. No dvd-r's. I've made arrangements to borrow a samsung drive, so I guess I'll be opening this up.

No real need to open it up as you haven't given any indication that the drive is faulty. You're probably going to have better luck burning a CD-RW.


Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm pretty certain it's either an issue with the burns or with the drive at this point. Hopefully swapping out the dvd will point me in the right direction.

Chances are you're going to get the same result when you swap the drive. If you want to confirm that your unit can read DVD-R media just burn a DVD movie onto DVD-R. If you get the "DVD Playback Kit Required" your drive can read DVD-R just fine and it is not an issue with the drive.

-hl718

[98PaceCar]

What DVD burner are you using anyway? Professional equipment excepted, I've not seen a DVD-R drive that can't also burn CD-R/RW.


No real need to open it up as you haven't given any indication that the drive is faulty. You're probably going to have better luck burning a CD-RW.

Chances are you're going to get the same result when you swap the drive. If you want to confirm that your unit can read DVD-R media just burn a DVD movie onto DVD-R. If you get the "DVD Playback Kit Required" your drive can read DVD-R just fine and it is not an issue with the drive.

-hl718

I've tried on my LiteOn 811S DVD burner. I also tried on the Mitsumi that's built into my girlfrieds laptop. Same results on both. So far, I've used Nero 6, Clone DVD 2, Record Now DX, and Alcohol 120%. I agree, at this point all I'm doing is making coasters! I had picked up some CD-RW, but they are acting really weird. Half of the time, I get a message from Record Now that they aren't compatible with my burner. I'm going to take the whole thing to a friends house and try out his burner. It's a lot newer than mine (dual layer and all).

I hadn't thought about trying out the DVD playback kit. That would tell me where the problem is without cracking the seal. Much easier and leaves all my seals intact!

Thanks for the sanity check! I'll report back tomorrow when I have tried the dvd playback kit.

Darren

[hl718]

I had picked up some CD-RW, but they are acting really weird. Half of the time, I get a message from Record Now that they aren't compatible with my burner.

There are three kinds of CD-RW: normal, hi-speed and ultra-speed. You have to purchase the kind that is compatible with your burner.



I hadn't thought about trying out the DVD playback kit. That would tell me where the problem is without cracking the seal. Much easier and leaves all my seals intact!

The DVD playback kit itself will NOT work in a stock debug kit. However the dash will still recognize that you have inserted a DVD Video and give you the DVD playback kit required error. If you put in a DVD-R movie and get that error, your drive is reading the media just fine. Same with a CD-RW burned as an audio CD. If you put it in and it plays, your drive has no issues with the media.


Thanks for the sanity check! I'll report back tomorrow when I have tried the dvd playback kit.

Remember, simple solutions are usually the correct ones. Occam is your friend.

-hl718

[idc]

I'd have to say that you are either doing something catastrophically wrong whilst burning the Recovery Disk image, or the image itself is corrupt.

See if Qwix will let you browse the .iso image. It is not a standard .iso image, by the way, so mounting it in Alcohol 120% or opening it in UltraISO or similar will not work.

[98PaceCar]

There are three kinds of CD-RW: normal, hi-speed and ultra-speed. You have to purchase the kind that is compatible with your burner.

The DVD playback kit itself will NOT work in a stock debug kit. However the dash will still recognize that you have inserted a DVD Video and give you the DVD playback kit required error. If you put in a DVD-R movie and get that error, your drive is reading the media just fine. Same with a CD-RW burned as an audio CD. If you put it in and it plays, your drive has no issues with the media.

Remember, simple solutions are usually the correct ones. Occam is your friend.

-hl718

Ok, I"m back to messing with this now. Stupid question time: If my burner says it supports Ultra Speed CD-RW, I would assume this means that it will use Ultra speed and down? The reason I ask is that I went and picked up some basic RW media this morning. When I put one in the burner, it still tells me it's the incorrect media. I just figured downward compatibility was built in.

I copied one of my dvd's over to -R and I did get the message about needing the dvd playback kit. So that's good! I also browsed the iso file in Qwix and it all appears to be good. I didn't get any errors when I tried an extract.

I guess my next step is either find a drive that will burn regular RW media or pick up some ultra. Either way, I have to be getting close!

Thanks for everybody's patience and advice.
Darren

[Topic Archive]

...Do you not have any Ritek DVD-R's?

[98PaceCar]

...Do you not have any Ritek DVD-R's?

No. TDK, Memorex, Verbatim, and CompUSA (Princo). Are Ritek the preferred?

[Topic Archive]

Ritek (summat like a good old G03/G04 dye) is preferred.

...Xbox CD-RW support/compatability was fine initially (2001) but what with dye changes and burn speed changes CD-RW has got difficult to cater for, when trying to work to a 100% success rate with more 'modern' materials than were ever intended, both hardware wise and software wise.

...'Yes' in theory the Thomson drive should read CD-RW's but I have had Dev Kits, Debug Kits and Retail kits that failed to read it 100%, sometimes they take 3 or 4 boots ups before they 'find' the data.

...Where as I've never had an issue with Ritek's

I appreciate we're clutching at straws here but basically your problem is so rare that it must either be incompatible media or you're burning it wrong. (I'm presuming that your original recovery image is okay from what you said earlier)

[mairsil]

I haven't had any problems with 8x (burned at 4x) DVD-R's from TDK. One thing that you might want to make sure is that you are burning the DVD-R's at the right speed (i.e. that you are not trying to do an 8x write on 4x media).

[idc]

I haven't had any problems with 8x (burned at 4x) DVD-R's from TDK. One thing that you might want to make sure is that you are burning the DVD-R's at the right speed (i.e. that you are not trying to do an 8x write on 4x media).

Good advice. I'd suggest you remove all doubt by going so far as to burn the image to CD-RW or DVD-R at 2x or even 1x.

I have an XDK with a Thomson drive, never had problems with reading Imation branded CD-RWs burned at full speed (as advertised on the CD-RW packaging) or Ritek DVD-Rs at no more than 6x.

[98PaceCar]

Based on a previous suggestion, I burnt some audio to a CD-RW. My debug didn't read it. A retail read the same disk fine. I've tried a different burner now as well, with the same results.

So, I broke down and cracked the seal (carefully!). I got a hold of a loaner samsung, but in all honesty I think this drive is worse than mine. It's absolutely filthy outside and refuses to open sometimes. It acts like it's trying harder to read the disk, but still fails. I'll try cleaning my thompson while it's out. Can't hurt anything at this point.

I've tried burning at all different speeds now, but I tend to burn slow anyway so I think I'm covered there.

I guess I can try to get a hold of a different dvd drive as well as some ritek media. I'll probably have to order both, but no biggie there.

Any chance anybody here is in Dallas? Having a known working recovery disk might help my debugging a bit. A long shot for sure, but I'm at my wits end!

Thanks,
Darren

[hl718]

When it comes to CD-RW, you need to make sure your burning speed matches the rated speed of the disc. You don't want to try and force an Ultra Speed CD-RW to burn at 1X.

You can also try troubleshooting the burn with your retail. No, it's not going to boot it, but it will tell you if you've burned the ISO correctly. ;)

Normally if you put an unrecognizable disc into your Xbox (say a PS2 disc) it will simply tell you that it cannot recognize the disc. However if you put a properly formatted debug disc into a retail Xbox, the retail will initially see it as a valid Xbox disc and try to boot it, switching from the dashboard screen to the Xbox screen (with the Microsoft logo underneath). It will of course fail when the signature check happens and fall back to the dashboard, but if you get that far then you have a pretty good chance that the disc was in fact burned correctly. If however your retail simply pops up the "cannot recognize disc" error, WITHOUT leaving the dashboard then your burn is toast. (pardon the pun)

Just remember, boot the Xbox WITHOUT a disc in the drive and get to the dashboard. From there, try inserting discs (hell try some of the coasters you've already burned) and see if any of them pop up the logo screen.

-hl718

[98PaceCar]

When it comes to CD-RW, you need to make sure your burning speed matches the rated speed of the disc. You don't want to try and force an Ultra Speed CD-RW to burn at 1X.

You can also try troubleshooting the burn with your retail. No, it's not going to boot it, but it will tell you if you've burned the ISO correctly. ;)

Normally if you put an unrecognizable disc into your Xbox (say a PS2 disc) it will simply tell you that it cannot recognize the disc. However if you put a properly formatted debug disc into a retail Xbox, the retail will initially see it as a valid Xbox disc and try to boot it, switching from the dashboard screen to the Xbox screen (with the Microsoft logo underneath). It will of course fail when the signature check happens and fall back to the dashboard, but if you get that far then you have a pretty good chance that the disc was in fact burned correctly. If however your retail simply pops up the "cannot recognize disc" error, WITHOUT leaving the dashboard then your burn is toast. (pardon the pun)

Just remember, boot the Xbox WITHOUT a disc in the drive and get to the dashboard. From there, try inserting discs (hell try some of the coasters you've already burned) and see if any of them pop up the logo screen.

-hl718

I have seen the logo screen. That's one I'm used to from my retail not reading disks. I can always tell if it's going to work or not by the Microsoft showing up at the bottom. So it's getting that far at least. Not on all of them, but some.

Do you think cleaning the drive will do anything for me? I'd be willing to rub a couple chicken bones together if someone thinks it might help!! I'm on a mission now, this thing HAS to work!

[hl718]

I have seen the logo screen. That's one I'm used to from my retail not reading disks. I can always tell if it's going to work or not by the Microsoft showing up at the bottom. So it's getting that far at least. Not on all of them, but some.

Do you think cleaning the drive will do anything for me? I'd be willing to rub a couple chicken bones together if someone thinks it might help!! I'm on a mission now, this thing HAS to work!

If you're getting the logo screen and seeing Microsoft show up on the bottom (on the debug) when you insert the recovery disc then chances are you burned the disc correctly. To verify this try booting your retail to the dash and see if the same thing happens. If this *is* the case, then there is the slim possibility that the system has a custom BIOS on it and may not boot the recovery disc.

Out of curiosity, you mentioned that you had four games that do boot on this system. What are they and what are the ID numbers printed across the top of the discs?

Also, since you couldn't resist the urge to crack the system open, what is the MCPX revision and what information is written on the configuration label near the pin header? It'll be near the BIOS chip.

-hl718

[98PaceCar]

If you're getting the logo screen and seeing Microsoft show up on the bottom (on the debug) when you insert the recovery disc then chances are you burned the disc correctly. To verify this try booting your retail to the dash and see if the same thing happens. If this *is* the case, then there is the slim possibility that the system has a custom BIOS on it and may not boot the recovery disc.

Out of curiosity, you mentioned that you had four games that do boot on this system. What are they and what are the ID numbers printed across the top of the discs?

Also, since you couldn't resist the urge to crack the system open, what is the MCPX revision and what information is written on the configuration label near the pin header? It'll be near the BIOS chip.

-hl718

I thought booting this disk in a retail was a major no-no? Does it give me an out if it does work?

The disks I have are:

Re-Volt (Media PN XL00301A-B1)
Unreal Championship (IG03601W-B1)
Mech Assault (MS02301W-B1)
Whacked (MS03901A-B2)

I also have a copy of the XBox Live Dashboard (Beta). Maybe that's what's causing the problem? I've tried all 5 of the disks and they all boot.

The MCPX chip says:
MCPX X2
F47837.1A 0204B2

The sticker by the bios says:
XDK
Flash XM2 4039
EEPROM XM2 4039
SMC 001

I've got the system completely torn down if you want any more info from it or even pics of the mobo.

[mairsil]

You shouldn't boot a recovery disk in a retail XBox which is modded/hacked into running the debug BIOS. When you try to use the recovery disk on a retail console running a retail BIOS, it will refuse to run it. If you run the recovery disk on a retail console running a debug BIOS, the system will think that it can run the disk properly, but it will end up screwing up the BIOS leaving the console in an unusable state.

[hl718]

The disks I have are:

Re-Volt (Media PN XL00301A-B1)
Unreal Championship (IG03601W-B1)
Mech Assault (MS02301W-B1)
Whacked (MS03901A-B2)

I also have a copy of the XBox Live Dashboard (Beta). Maybe that's what's causing the problem? I've tried all 5 of the disks and they all boot.


The fact that you have both a Xbox Live Dashboard beta disc and a Re-Volt beta disc is leading me to wonder if you might have an Xbox Live XDK Beta box there instead of a standard debug. If so, then no, the recovery disc will not boot. The annoyingly named Beta boxes were designed to test Xbox Live and will only run specific Xbox Live debug discs. You may have just cracked the seal on one of the rarer pieces of Xbox kit out there.


You shouldn't boot a recovery disk in a retail XBox which is modded/hacked into running the debug BIOS. When you try to use the recovery disk on a retail console running a retail BIOS, it will refuse to run it. If you run the recovery disk on a retail console running a debug BIOS, the system will think that it can run the disk properly, but it will end up screwing up the BIOS leaving the console in an unusable state.

This isn't *quite* true. So long as you have a debug BIOS pre-flashed onto your TSOP or mod chip, you can quite happily run the XDK recovery disc on a retail console. Simply eject the disc once it has finished installing all the software and prompts you to flash the BIOS. Power cycle the Xbox and you're golden.

To answer 98's other question though, no the recovery disc WILL NOT boot on a stock retail console. If properly burned it will cause the console to flash the Xbox logo screen and display the Microsoft logo, but it will then fail back to the dashboard with an "unrecognized disc" error. So no worries.

-hl718

[atomiX]

Despite what Atomix claims, don't bother burning to a DVD-R. You're just going to waste discs until you get it right. All of the debug kits can read CD-RW and the recovery.iso is a CD (not DVD) image. At least if you mess up a CD-RW burn you can wipe it and re-burn it. ;)
From personal experience, I can say that that isn't completely accurate. Thomson drives are theoretically supposed to read CD-RW media just fine but this usually isn't the case. It all depends on what media you use. And even though the recovery disc is meant to be burned on a CD, you can burn it on DVD without any problems at all just like any other Xbox-format (GDF) ISO. The thomson in my DEV kit had problems with the CD-RW media I was using so I burned to DVD-R and haven't any read errors (and i've used the disk quite a few times).

98PaceCar: Try extracting the ISO using any xbox ISO app. If it can be extracted, then this is probably a sign that it hasn't been corrupted and that the problem lies most likely with the media or burn process.

[98PaceCar]

The fact that you have both a Xbox Live Dashboard beta disc and a Re-Volt beta disc is leading me to wonder if you might have an Xbox Live XDK Beta box there instead of a standard debug. If so, then no, the recovery disc will not boot. The annoyingly named Beta boxes were designed to test Xbox Live and will only run specific Xbox Live debug discs. You may have just cracked the seal on one of the rarer pieces of Xbox kit out there.



This isn't *quite* true. So long as you have a debug BIOS pre-flashed onto your TSOP or mod chip, you can quite happily run the XDK recovery disc on a retail console. Simply eject the disc once it has finished installing all the software and prompts you to flash the BIOS. Power cycle the Xbox and you're golden.

To answer 98's other question though, no the recovery disc WILL NOT boot on a stock retail console. If properly burned it will cause the console to flash the Xbox logo screen and display the Microsoft logo, but it will then fail back to the dashboard with an "unrecognized disc" error. So no worries.

-hl718

Hmm, glad I didn't mess up any of the stickers when I opened it up! Is there a sure fire way to tell if it really is a live beta box? Is there a particular sequence of serial numbers or something? Some internal indication?

Just for fun, I slapped another HD into the box and tried to boot. It gives me a screen with a message to contact MS in about 8 different languages. So I guess the hd isn't causing any problems, not that I thought it was.

So if this is a Live xbox, that pretty much leaves me dead in the water as far as dev work goes then, I assume.

[98PaceCar]

From personal experience, I can say that that isn't completely accurate. Thomson drives are theoretically supposed to read CD-RW media just fine but this usually isn't the case. It all depends on what media you use. And even though the recovery disc is meant to be burned on a CD, you can burn it on DVD without any problems at all just like any other Xbox-format (GDF) ISO. The thomson in my DEV kit had problems with the CD-RW media I was using so I burned to DVD-R and haven't any read errors (and i've used the disk quite a few times).

98PaceCar: Try extracting the ISO using any xbox ISO app. If it can be extracted, then this is probably a sign that it hasn't been corrupted and that the problem lies most likely with the media or burn process.

I did use Qwix to open up my iso and it all appeared to be fine. I was able to extract all of the files in it with no errors. I've tried 3 different burners, several different kinds of media, and every burner program I have! No luck though.

[The Dreaming Eye]

Hopefully I can help a bit here. I wish I would have seen this thread earlier to (possibly) save you some work.

Did you purchase this from ClubNinja on DP? Reason I ask is I traded him this exact lot earlier this year. If this is the case, you have a Beta Kit (and it should have a beta sticker on the front, it did when I had it). I had three more discs that will work on it that I sold to a forum member here.

It was a nice system, but I downsized my collection a bit earlier in the year and decided I'd rather keep other things. She was even a virgin up until now!

If you want a rare piece of kit in your collection, I'd hang on to it.

[Topic Archive]

I always silently suspected that you probably had a Beta Live! Debug Kit, now you've listed the games youv'e confirmed it.

....There is no XDK Dash for that console, enjoy :)

[AntiPasta]

So if this is a Live xbox, that pretty much leaves me dead in the water as far as dev work goes then, I assume.

Nah, just dev on PC, not noticing the difference requires little effort ;-)


(forgive me, it was a pathetic attempt at humour)

[98PaceCar]

Hopefully I can help a bit here. I wish I would have seen this thread earlier to (possibly) save you some work.

Did you purchase this from ClubNinja on DP? Reason I ask is I traded him this exact lot earlier this year. If this is the case, you have a Beta Kit (and it should have a beta sticker on the front, it did when I had it). I had three more discs that will work on it that I sold to a forum member here.

It was a nice system, but I downsized my collection a bit earlier in the year and decided I'd rather keep other things. She was even a virgin up until now!

If you want a rare piece of kit in your collection, I'd hang on to it.

Yup, I sure did get this from ClubNinja on DP. It doesn't have a beta sticker on it anymore, so I guess he took it off. Wish it did, I had found pics on OldEngineer's site that show the one with the beta sticker on it and wouldn't have cracked it open had I known. Oh well! At least I did it right and didn't just punch through the stickers. She's back together now and will stay that way from here on out.

So, since I can't run the xdk on it, anybody here have anything that will run on it they want to sell??

Thanks for all the help figuring out what this is. It's been frustrating because I know this should be a simple process and just hated to think I couldn't get it to work!

Darren

[Topic Archive]

Well just so you know Beta Live! Debug Kits are Region Coded...

As luck would have it I have three pressed Beta Live! games that are compatible with your NTSC system:

Capcom Vs SNK 2 EO Beta Confidential

NFL Fever 2002 (06-11-02) Confidential

NBA 2003 Beta Confidential


http://img338.echo.cx/img338/2632/betalive1jb.th.jpg (http://img338.echo.cx/my.php?image=betalive1jb.jpg)


...Lmk if if you are interested.

[Pikkon]

So oldengineer there is no way to install the XDK dashboard on a beta live debug kit.
I know you said its region coded but is the debug bios different also.

[Topic Archive]

I know you said its region coded but is the debug bios different also.

Yep, it's unique...

...In fact it's more like a Retail BIOS than a Debug.

[Pikkon]

So if someone could changed the bios and the eprom it would act like a genuine
debug kit. Theoretically speaking.

[Topic Archive]

Yep ;-)