different saturn devkit

[haliway]

What are the different saturn devkit existing? (give the number of the version also please)

[Calpis]

Seach the board for:

Psy-Q & PsyQ
Sophia
CartDev Rev.B

[LeGIt]

Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Programming box (SG4001)
Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Graphics Box
Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Sound Box
Cross CartDev Rev.A
Cross CartDev Rev.B
Psygnosis PSyQ

[haliway]

the sophia system is the first version of saturn devkit? 3 boxes? can someone post pictures of all those devkit please

[Paulo]

Search the board there is loads of pictures of saturn dev around...

[dj898]

what are the main difference between Sophia and CartDev Rev. A ?

[haliway]

i think no diff but i'm not really sure

[dj898]

always thought they are the same one?

[macwest]

Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Programming box (SG4001)
Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Graphics Box
Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Sound Box
Cross CartDev Rev.A
Cross CartDev Rev.B
Psygnosis PSyQ

Dont forget the e7000 for the sophia programming box:)

[Calpis]

Then don't forget the 2,000 other 68K ICE either.

[haliway]

SO what is the diff between

Sophia Systems and Cross CartDev Rev.A

[AntiPasta]

what's the difference between Psy-Q and Cartdev really?

[Calpis]

LOL :D

[haliway]

nobody wanna answer

[LeGIt]

I typed up a nice long post then hit send and it fucked up so I can't be bothered typing it up again, but basically:

Sophia = custom hardware
CartDev = modified retail hadware
PSYQ = add-on hardware

They're all different but do the same thing over all, the only major difference being the cost.

Sophia = mega expensive
CartDev = cheap as chips

Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Programming Box
http://assembler.roarvgm.com/Saturn_Japanese_Developer/saturn_1.jpg

The Graphics box looks pretty much identical except it has no CD-ROM drive.

Sophia Systems SegaSaturn Sound Box
http://assembler.roarvgm.com/Saturn_Japanese_Developer/saturn_6.jpg

http://assembler.roarvgm.com/Saturn_Japanese_Developer/saturn_japanese_developer.html

Cross CartDev
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Shrine/7357/cartdev.jpg

Rev A & B are mostly identical to look at, only some minor hardware/software tweaks

Psygnosis PsyQ
http://www.geocities.com/s_h_3/sega/saturn/psy-qcart.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/s_h_3/sega/saturn/psyq.htm

Seriously though guys it only took me 10 mins to knock this post together shouldn't have been too hard for you to get the information :P Well, I guess now you'll stop asking for the differences :P

[dj898]

cheers mate
never seen Rev.A was wondering what the hell thing was...

[AntiPasta]

LOL :D

what's so funny? I bought a what was sold as a Psy-Q saturn and the actual Saturn happens to look exactly like the Cartdev one.

[Calpis]

The kit put together sure doesn't

[dj898]

what's so funny? I bought a what was sold as a Psy-Q saturn and the actual Saturn happens to look exactly like the Cartdev one.

there are few variants with Psy-Q Saturn...
there's one apart from NMI cable looks just like stock grey Saturn with no visible mod outside... and then there's one with the SCSI port at the side but nothing else... and then there's one looks like Cross Saturn with full mod jobby...

[retro]

There are more Sophias than that listed. Then you could include IS/SI address checkers.

The difference between Sophia and CartDev A? Well, other than the fact one was made in Japan, one in England, one is a LOT bigger than the other, one sits under a modified Saturn.... umm, Sophia works, Rev A is utter shite.

The reason for a Rev A and Rev B, believe it or not, is that the A was totally unreliable. A surviving WORKING Rev A is quite hard to find! If you do - DON'T USE IT!

I have said this countless times, but obviously people didn't take it in ;) Here goes again:

A Psy-Q is a cart that plugs into a saturn. Technically, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PSY-Q SATURN.

From the Psy-Q manual:


This version of Psy-Q features:
· High performance Psy-Q SCSI interface card for host PC.

· Compact Saturn adapter cartridge, including extensive firmware stored in battery
backed SRAM.

· All the software you need:-
· Two RISC SH2 assemblers compatible with standard C compilers including
the popular Freeware Gnu-C.

· Fast 68000 assembler with numerous directives.

· High Speed Linker and Librarian, with extensive link-time options.

· Powerful Source Level Debugger, allowing the programmer to step, trace and
set breakpoints directly in the source code.

Additional hardware required:
· Host 386/486/Pentium PC with hard disk drive, at least 1 Megabyte of memory and
1 free 16 bit ISA slot.

· Sega Saturn. This can be either a ‘Small Programming Box’ or an ordinary
production Saturn from your local retailer.

As you can see, the Psy-Q (which is a cart) can be used with a NORMAL Saturn. The Saturn with the Psygnosis label on it is a NORMAL Saturn. However, Psygnosis had it modified with the USUAL country switch, and also added a VCD port. No, this is NOT a video CD port, it is for a JVC Virtual CD card, or the Mirage. You DO NOT need this to use the Psy-Q.

Answer: Psy-Q is a Cart which plugs into a Saturn and connects to a computer via SCSI. CartDev is a system consisting of a box and a modified Saturn. A CartDev Saturn usually has a ribbon cable coming out of the front.

[dj898]

there are more than one cable hanging out and plug in with CartDev - well at least with Rev.B anyway... :p - to connect into RAM buffer cart that goes into cart slot... and then there's cable that connect between PC ...

[retro]

Yes indeed, but for simplicity, saying there is one hanging out the front is sufficient to distinguish it from a Psygnosis modded Saturn. :)

[dj898]

mind you I once had saturn from Psy-Q that had single black wire hanging out in front that looked very much like NMI cable on CartDev...?

[retro]

Unusual... could be it was modded for both!

[dj898]

no apart from that single wire it looked just like JPN grey saturn. The other one of the pair I had was modified with SCSI port at the side but no country switch nor any NMI cable (also had Psy number sticker at the side as well...

I'd say Psy did number of different mod with saturn console and hence various different saturn consoles with Psy-Q setups... just my guess