Ohcouchi Gengorou Ikka UNRELEASED for N64 - Community Dump

[LeGIt]

For those of you who never saw the thread here (http://www.assemblergames.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=3892&start=0) I'm going to pick up the Unreleased N64 game Ohcouchi Gengorou Ikka (with my own $$$) off Yahoo! Japan and in return for donations have the game dumped for the whole community to enjoy.

Any donations above the original cost of the game will be refunded. Unlike the Propellor Arena fiasco, I'm not asking for $50 and promising a CD-R of the game then failing to deliver. 100 people @ $5 each will be sufficient and the game will be released as a ROM only for you to either play on your favourite N64 emulator or on a backup device such as Bung's, whatever you choose.

In the event we lose the auction or fail to reach an acceptable pool to recoup my costs then worst case scenario is all donations are refunded and that's the end of it. Once the pool is reached FTP details will be provided for you to download at your leisure. In the event any PayPal chargebacks take place AFTER I fulfilled the proposal to dump the game and provide the ROM, the buggers will be named and shamed!

There should be enough people here to vouch for my authenticity so hopefully everything will go smooth :smt023

PayPal: REMOVED :smt033 (Note there is a _ between legit and @)

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Current Donors: KR155E, Fire-WSP, Shakey_Jake33, Alchy, the_steadster, djb1986, Greatsaintlouis

[Alchy]

Sent cash. Good luck!

[retro]

Good stuff. Can't help myself atm at least until my job situation improves! However, I can offer help in getting a V64 image if you need it.

Whatever that means :smt083 Gee, I have no clue!

[Evangelion-01]

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[LeGIt]

Sent cash. Good luck!

strange, it never came to my account, maybe it's working slow or something.:smt009 Did you enter the details correctly? REMOVED
The _ is supposed to be there :smt023

[KR155E]

Sent cash. Hopefully this works :)

[LeGIt]

Got yours, cheers :smt023 Wonder where Alchy's went to though ... :smt009

[Silverhawk]

you got $ :)

[Shakey_Jake33]

Donated some $! Would have donated more, but end of the pay month for me... might be able to donate more later.

[Alchy]

Sent cash. Good luck!

strange, it never came to my account, maybe it's working slow or something.:smt009 Did you enter the details correctly? legit_@msn.com
The _ is supposed to be there :smt023Aagh... I didn't see the gap >_<
Right, payment from the old one's been withdrawn and a new payment should have been sent to the correct address.

[LeGIt]

Got it :smt023 :drinkers:

[Paulo]

Well if you are only going to accept cash upto $500 and then ONLY share with people who have paid how is this releasing the game to the community?

More like releasing it to a select few. Also what happens to the cart once you make the $500 back?

[LeGIt]

You misundertsand.

I'm only accepting cash upto $500 because that's how much the cart costs. No point taking a penny more as not after profit. It will not ONLY be shared with peeps who cough up, FTP link will be posted for ALL to use.

As for the releasing to the select few, well whoever sees the FTP link in the thread once it's dumped will be the peeps who DL it. If they don't look in the thread for the link then of course they won't know where to get it from! Chances it are it will be on a P2P network in the blink of an eye anyway so may aswell provide a torrent aswell as FTP .

Cart goes into my collection :smt083 It will never be sold, if the time should arise to get rid of it, it will be donated to a museum/gameshow for other people to enjoy.

[retro]

How does a cart cost $500 in an auction? Or is that buy it now? Have you thought about shipping costs, Yakumo's costs etc?

And if you raise the $500, you get a free cart out of it - sweet deal for you :P

[LeGIt]

How does a cart cost $500 in an auction? Or is that buy it now?

Seller will take the $$$ and end early with any luck, $500 is the start price ...

Have you thought about shipping costs, Yakumo's costs etc?

My problem and my problem alone, all anyone else needs to think about is the cost of the cart. Full $500 returned isn't essential but it would be nice to have half my costs met.

And if you raise the $500, you get a free cart out of it - sweet deal for you :P

YAY :smt083

[Evangelion-01]

It will never be sold, if the time should arise to get rid of it, it will be donated to a museum/gameshow for other people to enjoy.

dont trust you on that, you sell everything after about a month, jejeje jk xD

hey! i acept donations to buy a ps2! i will send pics to the ones that help out!. jk legit :P

[the_steadster]

Just donated towards it

[djb1986]

It will never be sold, if the time should arise to get rid of it, it will be donated to a museum/gameshow for other people to enjoy. :smt023

Count me in. Payment sent, but it's through a bank transfer, so it should show up in a few days.

[popeye_no_eigo_asobi]

For those of you who never saw the thread here (http://www.assemblergames.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=3892&start=0) I'm going to pick up the Unreleased N64 game Ohcouchi Gengorou Ikka (with my own $$$) off Yahoo! Japan and in return for donations have the game dumped for the whole community to enjoy.

First of all the game is called Ookouchigengorouikka.

Secondly, the seller bought it on yahoo auctions in 2002 for only 17000 Yen. Not a single person in Japan would pay 50000 Yen for it.

If you are wise you will wait for the auction to close with zero bids and hope that he will relist it at a cheaper price. Just my two cents.


Kindaichi

[cahaz]

Can't help you (sorry, but i have a tight pocket and i want to get that panzer dragoon saga this month! :-D ) , but i find your idea pretty good and thank you for this beautiful present you give to the community. Plus, if you reach the 500 limit, you'll have one more proto in your collection for free, you lucky bastard! ;-)


thx again comrade. :smt023

[popeye_no_eigo_asobi]

Any donations above the original cost of the game will be refunded. Unlike the Propellor Arena fiasco, I'm not asking for $50 and promising a CD-R of the game then failing to deliver. 100 people @ $5 each will be sufficient and the game will be released as a ROM only for you to either play on your favourite N64 emulator or on a backup device such as Bung's, whatever you choose.

In the event we lose the auction or fail to reach an acceptable pool to recoup my costs then worst case scenario is all donations are refunded and that's the end of it. Once the pool is reached FTP details will be provided for you to download at your leisure. In the event any PayPal chargebacks take place AFTER I fulfilled the proposal to dump the game and provide the ROM, the buggers will be named and shamed!

Deleted!

Kindaichi

[cahaz]

Any donations above the original cost of the game will be refunded. Unlike the Propellor Arena fiasco, I'm not asking for $50 and promising a CD-R of the game then failing to deliver. 100 people @ $5 each will be sufficient and the game will be released as a ROM only for you to either play on your favourite N64 emulator or on a backup device such as Bung's, whatever you choose.

In the event we lose the auction or fail to reach an acceptable pool to recoup my costs then worst case scenario is all donations are refunded and that's the end of it. Once the pool is reached FTP details will be provided for you to download at your leisure. In the event any PayPal chargebacks take place AFTER I fulfilled the proposal to dump the game and provide the ROM, the buggers will be named and shamed!

The overall idea is nice. But what bothers me: what about the original cart?

=== IGNORE THE FOLLOWING ===
I am just thinking about the following: if you get enough money from the donators, you would get the cart for free, right? This means: what you do here is trying to get the game for free through the donations. Sure, you will dump the game. I believe you! But the fact remains that the original will stay in your shelves and in the end you didn't pay a penny for it.
=== IGNORE END ===

Nice idea and concept. I should try this out one time too! :)

Anyway, to get serious again: I would donate 17000 Yen right away if you would give me the original cart after dumping the game. I do not need the dump at all. I just want the original developers cart with the game on it. Maybe we can deal something out if the cart itself isn't too important for you. Just let me know.

Thanks.


Kindaichi

you get it right, he want to get a free proto by ecahnging the rom with the community. But take it on another angle, what if the buy wasn't Legit, what if after buying the prototype he/she suddentlty disapeared leaving no traces at all of the proto, no pictures nor roms or anything else. Legit, on the other hand, whant to share that proto. with the community by asking 5 bucks until the 500 limit is reached. 5 bucks to play a rom you would never be able to pay and play normally without a free 500 bucks in you pocket. Sure, the Prototpye price legit own will decrease because it will be released to the public, but it's still the original and not a fake. So i think everyone is in a winning position. ;-)

edit: uh, sorry i clicked the quote button on a unrefreshed page, and didn't notice you added IGNORE while typing my response.

[The_Squeege]

One thing I don't get, just like I didn't get it during the whole PA "fiasco" was how come the buyer gets to keep the cart/GD? You paid nothing for it, yet you get to keep it. Makes no sense to me. Surely dumping a ROM isn't worth $500. Wouldn't it make more sense to sell it and then refund everyone's money after it's been dumped?

Just don't get it, no offence though.

[djb1986]

^ Because even if he did sell it. Most people on Y! Japan or eBay won't pay the $500 for it.

[Greatsaintlouis]

Sure, the Prototpye price legit own will decrease because it will be released to the public
*sigh* It's sad to see people actually believe this sort of scaremongering... :smt009

[Calpis]

Thats not exactly true, I have a Japanese friend who is willing to fundraise with other friends to buy it but he's holding off because I explained the situation on this board. If Legit doesn't win, he'll be upset with me for telling him to hold back.

The theory here is that Legit gets the cartridge since he's (well should be) putting up the seed money or the vast majority of it, otherwise he get's a free flash cartridge that took but a donation post and a little extra for shipping etc. I don't see the problem with it going to him since it's doubtful to me that he'll make anywhere near $500 in donations but I'd be slightly annoyed if I donated and he didn't win or he won but recouped all his cash. (I'd take donations AFTER I bought the cartridge, that way refunds wouldn't be necessary in any circumstance)

I don't think however that it'd be a bad idea to sell the cartridge outside this community and refund the earnings to the donators/Legit proportionally but it's ultimately Legit's decision.

[LeGIt]

Had something similar come up on DP.

So basically, you're asking 100 people to club together and buy you a prototype, right?

Hell, I'll buy and share all the protos you can find as long as other people pay for them.

Cease and desist!

I've got the money sat there rattling away in my bank as we speak, I'd more than happily buy it but I wouldn't dump it. Even if half my costs were covered I'd probably still dump it. What point would there be me spending $500 on it, dumping it, making the original media more or less worthless and be $500 out of pocket when I could have put the money to better use towards my business? People sell reproductions of games they never even dumped for big $$$ yet give no thought whatsoever to the people who paid the hard cash for buying and dumping the proto in the 1st place, that's hardly fair. The $$$ is to recoup costs obtaining the material on the cart, not the cart itself.

Sure the cart would end up in my collection and at a reduced cost (and subsequently reduced value at that), but every man and their dog who wanted to play it will be able to do to so too. The cart would never be sold - if anything it would be donated to a museum/video games event such as CGE for yet more people to enjoy.

If it makes you feel any better, if the cart cost is met I won't even look at it, after it get's dumped goes straight to CGE for a display or something.

There have been no similar complaints in the past when peeps have done it with other unreleased games so I don't see why it should be a problem this time around.

[arsenal]

I like it when you say cease and desist with that attitude :drinkers:

[youruglyclone]

sorry to the ignorant, but could you provide some background on the game?

but yeah this sounds like a cool idea I might churn out 5 bucks for this

edit: learned to how click a link nm

[cahaz]

Sure, the Prototpye price legit own will decrease because it will be released to the public
*sigh* It's sad to see people actually believe this sort of scaremongering... :smt009

nah, you miss quoted me. Yes, alot of people belive this, but im not one of those the proto is still the original and not a copy. Sadly, alot of people in the community see it on another angle, and no mather if you belive it or not, the ones that belives it will make you cart worth less. Less buyers means less profit when it comes to one single cart.

[the_steadster]

Legit, Did you get my payment?

[LeGIt]

Yeh I got it :smt023 Added you on the list of donors @ the bottom of the 1st post yesterday.

[Greatsaintlouis]

nah, you miss quoted me. Yes, alot of people belive this, but im not one of those the proto is still the original and not a copy. Sadly, alot of people in the community see it on another angle, and no mather if you belive it or not, the ones that belives it will make you cart worth less. Less buyers means less profit when it comes to one single cart.

Ah, my bad, I guess I misunderstood you. But with the amount of people who believe that having unreleased games dumped on the internet, there's got to be SOMEPLACE where I can get a Propeller Arena GD-R for $15, right? Because everyone knows it's worthless after its release. And moreover, Dracula X and Radiant Silvergun are both relatively easy to find in their Internal System Overview form - how come they aren't $7 a piece? Am I just not looking in the right places?? :smt022 :smt009

Or is it maybe that the idea of games devaluing when they are dumped for people that couldn't afford them anyways is total bullshit? ;-) :smt043

Anyways, a bit more on-topic - it might be a rather academic question at this point with all the interest, but do we even know if this game is worth $500?? What sort of gameplay are we going to get? Will it be just text-based, or what? There's not a lot we can tell from the pictures, unfortunately, and while I love unreleased games, getting something unplayable by non-readers of Japanese might be a bit anticlimactic to the interests generated this far.

Now, if it were Echo Delta on the other hand.. :-D

[LeGIt]

Am I just not looking in the right places?? :smt022 :smt009

Could be :P

Or is it maybe that the idea of games devaluing when they are dumped for people that couldn't afford them anyways is total bullshit? ;-) :smt043

Nah :P Less people interested because it was ripped = less people bidding / trading :(

Anyways, a bit more on-topic - it might be a rather academic question at this point with all the interest, but do we even know if this game is worth $500?? What sort of gameplay are we going to get? Will it be just text-based, or what? There's not a lot we can tell from the pictures, unfortunately, and while I love unreleased games, getting something unplayable by non-readers of Japanese might be a bit anticlimactic to the interests generated this far.

Is it worth $500? Maybe, maybe not. It's unreleased which has to count for something and if it's any good even better! As for gameplay who knows, but hopefully it won't be unplayable for those of us who can't read japanese like myself. Someone could be kind enough to do a full translation guide - GaijinPunch was saying how he would like to translate stuff to keep his linguistic skills sharp so he would be the perfect candidate assuming he was willing. The other gamble being that the game could be too japanese for us to "get it" even with a translation, but as most chaps are donating $5 a pop it's no real financial loss and it's still another unreleased game out there for the people ;-)

[einbebop44]

I commend LeGiT for this. Really, he's taking an initiative to do something that may end up costing him money--a good deal of money,

Everyone whining fails to take into account that LeGiT is taking a risk here--making an "ass" of himself, having to pay $300+ out of his own pocket, getting the cart lost in the post etc.

[Greatsaintlouis]

Greatsaintlouis wrote:
Am I just not looking in the right places??

Could be :P

Greatsaintlouis wrote:
Or is it maybe that the idea of games devaluing when they are dumped for people that couldn't afford them anyways is total bullshit?

Nah :P Less people interested because it was ripped = less people bidding / trading :(


Well, the original question was actually rhetorical in nature, spiced with the exquisite flavor we call sarcasm. But seriously this time - if a release being freely available on the internet affects the value of the original, I challenge you to find me a Propeller Arena GD-R for $50, or Radiant Silvergun for $35, or Dracula X for $30. Really, find them for me. I don't think you have any comprehension how the collector's market works at all.

[arsenal]

What company made this game/ was going to produce it?

[Calpis]

No one knows.

[arsenal]

I asked since the ambiguity of the spelling isn't going to help so I thought I'd ask if anyone knew. But we'll know soon hopefully.

[manopac]

Well, the original question was actually rhetorical in nature, spiced with the exquisite flavor we call sarcasm. But seriously this time - if a release being freely available on the internet affects the value of the original, I challenge you to find me a Propeller Arena GD-R for $50, or Radiant Silvergun for $35, or Dracula X for $30. Really, find them for me. I don't think you have any comprehension how the collector's market works at all.

my two cents ... I think Legit is right, if a generic cart with a flash rom is dumped, its worth nothing ... like Propellar Arena GD-R, because its free available and everyone could burn a copy of it to one of the many empty GDRs flying around ... Radiant Silvergun or Dracula X is a different story, I can get you a self burned copy for $35, I can produce as many as you want, but finding the ORIGINAL is still much harder ... so the value of THAT will rise ... I don't think that you can get big bucks for a Half-Life or Prop-Arena GDR on ebay now (nowhere close the $1000 they went in the first place)

I actually don't count any copy on a generic disc as an Original, no matter where it was burned ... the value lies in the data, not the disc, data free available -> drop in value ...
Radiant Silvergun: value lies in the disc/manual/inlays/etc. -> data free available -> no drop in value ...

[Alchy]

Of course, because any fool in the street can buy a programmable N64 cart from Game and stick this ROM onto EEPROM with their handy EEPROM programmer. Please.

Since you mentioned Propellor Arena, let's not forget we also got another unreleased DC game ripped and released recently. Then last week it sold on ebay for... £400? $800 dollars for a game that's freely available. Hell, I could burn it on a printable CDR and make a design for a CD printer to make it look white label, if I felt like ripping someone off with a non-authentic disc. The point is that the buyer was obviously a collector with large amounts of cash who wanted the real thing - he could have downloaded it but he didn't.

GSL said it best:
the idea of games devaluing when they are dumped for people that couldn't afford them anyways is total bullshit

[arsenal]

Well, the original question was actually rhetorical in nature, spiced with the exquisite flavor we call sarcasm. But seriously this time - if a release being freely available on the internet affects the value of the original, I challenge you to find me a Propeller Arena GD-R for $50, or Radiant Silvergun for $35, or Dracula X for $30. Really, find them for me. I don't think you have any comprehension how the collector's market works at all.

my two cents ... I think Legit is right, if a generic cart with a flash rom is dumped, its worth nothing ... like Propellar Arena GD-R, because its free available and everyone could burn a copy of it to one of the many empty GDRs flying around ...


I think Legit did not say it and not someone else but only you. That's what you say where it turns odd before going way off (topic if you will). Are you sure your two cents are Lincolns, hmm? Maybe wheat pennies you have...

But it's not like a Propeller Arena... Is it? And at great length...

Apples & oranges. GDR, original or not, it isn't generic N64...stuff

In sence that once dumped people are NOT...able to...burn copies :-(

So my question how is Ohcouchi Gengorou Ikka (on official N64 flash developer's test media, there simply isn't any generic flash media for n64 I know of) "...worth nothing, like Propellar Arena GD-R (arguably so), because its free available and everyone could burn a copy of it to one of the many empty GDRs flying around ...

Oh wait let me get my generic flash media to play on my n64 console and I'll burn a copy. Oh wait there's no such thing for my N64 console as generic media to be able play what rom I have here here! How how how is it acceptable to say. I ridicule you sir. :smt071 :smt045 Yes I do :smt009

Anyway no nead to one-up me because I won't argue that. If it's worthless then it must be only because you say so hardy-har-har. :-D

[XerdoPwerko]

First of all, what Legit is doing is pretty cool. :smt023

Second. I think he knows his investment is pretty much secure, no matter how many times the contents is dumped, because he owns the pre-original proto. Therefore, he owns something that cannot be duplicated.

Third. Why did Propeller Arena in GDR lose its value? The proto cannot be reproduced, even if the data inside it can. Sure, it can be burnt to GDR. That's still different from the original media, is it not?

[Silverhawk]

Second. I think he knows his investment is pretty much secure, no matter how many times the contents is dumped, because he owns the pre-original proto. Therefore, he owns something that cannot be duplicated.


thats true! only a few people have the possibility to burn a N64 Rom to a official Nintendo 64 Flashboard. So i belive it is no problem to dump N64 protos since you can not make a 100% copy of it.

[Fatalist]

Since you mentioned Propellor Arena, let's not forget we also got another unreleased DC game ripped and released recently. Then last week it sold on ebay for... £400? $800 dollars for a game that's freely available. Hell, I could burn it on a printable CDR and make a design for a CD printer to make it look white label, if I felt like ripping someone off with a non-authentic disc. The point is that the buyer was obviously a collector with large amounts of cash who wanted the real thing - he could have downloaded it but he didn't.


We don't know if that buyer from Kuwait knows about the rip of the game.

[LeGIt]

Thread is going pretty OT here. If peeps want to debate whether or not a proto goes down in value or not after a rip, then please make a new topic.

Back on topic though, after PayPal fees only got about $35 in donations! Come on guys, cough up ;-)

[Calpis]

Of course, because any fool in the street can buy a programmable N64 cart from Game and stick this ROM onto EEPROM with their handy EEPROM programmer. Please.

Since you mentioned Propellor Arena, let's not forget we also got another unreleased DC game ripped and released recently. Then last week it sold on ebay for... £400? $800 dollars for a game that's freely available. Hell, I could burn it on a printable CDR and make a design for a CD printer to make it look white label, if I felt like ripping someone off with a non-authentic disc. The point is that the buyer was obviously a collector with large amounts of cash who wanted the real thing - he could have downloaded it but he didn't.

GSL said it best:
the idea of games devaluing when they are dumped for people that couldn't afford them anyways is total bullshit

N64 cartridges are very different than the old 16bit, it's not just a piece of cake to make new ones, I have absolutely no clue what kind of ROMs they use. They're definately non-JEDEC and with so few pins, they very well could be set up like NAND memory or something, 8bit data bus, serial addressing. Try finding a N64 cartridge pinout, I sure can't. This is definately beyond petty prototype fakers. I don't think people with talent are going to spend hours or even days examining cartridges
just to crank out a couple obscure Japanese "prototypes" which are obviously fakes because N64 prototypes strictly come on flash carts (and more often digitally.) Also why can't we just keep the game to people we know? Why does it have to be released all over the net? Too bad we don't have a N64 programmer to make us an unremoveable intro hehe.

[LeGIt]

Also why can't we just keep the game to people we know? Why does it have to be released all over the net?

In a short time keeping to the forum will eventually lead to all over the net anyway, but I guess atleast peeps who actually chipped in get to have some time with it before all the freeloaders start whoring it out and making NFO's claiming they dumped it :smt043

Too bad we don't have a N64 programmer to make us an unremoveable intro hehe.

ASSEMbler & Shiggsy have plenty of goodies so maybe that's not too impossible, failing that maybe a ROM hack?

Anyhow, I just sent Yakumo the $$$ so it's in his hands :smt023

[Calpis]

Not a flash cart programmer, someone that knows R4300 assembly to write an intro.

[ASSEMbler]

Some thoughts here.

I think if he releases the rom, it could be done on a page with a story and pics of the cart. That way when people come to get the rom, they read about it, and the cart gains legendary status. Then it will hold value.

N64 flash carts aren't exactly commonplace, and it's a large piece of hardware, not like a cdr/gdr that is really a blank cheapo medium that most people associate no value with.

Look at some nes games, you can get the roms, but they still sell for hundreds on ebay.


I would say, put up a page with the rom, the story and a pic of the cart. The story and cart will become famous and keep the value , if not grow in value. It's like neo geo, you can buy metal slug for $1000 or get the rom online, but the cart is a tangible item that holds value.

Nind you if you get someone to code an intro, it would rock 100%.
:-D :-D :-D

[Shiggsy]

Not a flash cart programmer, someone that knows R4300 assembly to write an intro.

Not that you would have to know R4300 assembly to make an intro....but how were you thinking it would be made unremovable?

Shiggsy

[ASSEMbler]

just edit the textures :-)

[LeGIt]

I guess we have your blessing to slap the ASSEMbler logo into the ROM then :smt023

[cahaz]

just to tell what i think, take Half-Life DC GDR and compare it with the DC castle vania GDR, both where unreleased. Still, i think someone would pay ALOT more for that (or another) Castlevania GDR than an Half-Lige one. Why? Simply because you can't play CV with any other way, since it wasn't dumped. And don't tell me Half-Life don't have is lot of fan too.

And yet, Castlevania DC was on a CD-R. ;-)

Anyway, That's how the ''market'' goes, but am i for this? No. I personnally don't think a Prototype is less valuable when dumped and would still whant a proto. if it was dumped, because it's the original thing. Still whatever i think (and you either), we won't change anything. That's how it is and it's only a fact....well, in my opinion. :smt043


Look at some nes games, you can get the roms, but they still sell for hundreds on ebay.

Nah, it's not the same thing. A comertical game comes with a box a manual and adds, and this makes, for the most of times, the value of the game. A normal game loose worth less than a normal game with everything mint, and you don't have this in a rom.


I think it alwatys depend on wich games. A final Fantasy proto will never decrease in value. Still, i think a collector would pay more for a never dumped Final fantasy proto than a dumped one, because there's a mistery behind it and he would know he have something everyone would like to play in his hands.

like Funkstar Deluxe wrote in another thread: ''It's a psychological thing, you can't have it - there for it's better. ''

that's my opinion. ;-)

[Calpis]

Not a flash cart programmer, someone that knows R4300 assembly to write an intro.

Not that you would have to know R4300 assembly to make an intro....but how were you thinking it would be made unremovable?

Shiggsy
Of course one needn't learn R4300 but does anyone here even do N64 development at all?

Theres no such thing as an unremoveable intro but there are strategies for releasing a game that no one would care to tamper with. For example, one could "sign" or tag random code, one could as Assembler pointed out, tamper with the graphics, these would discourage people from removing an intro because it'd be impossible to extract a perfect image without knowing a proper checksum or even what was replaced.

There must be trainer source out there that could be altered into a simple intro but likely it'd be a simple removeable frontend. To have an unremoveable intro one'd need to hide it somewhere only able to be found through debugging, but if you're clever you could the get the intro to the point where no one could fix your damage/understand your spaghetti code.

[LeGIt]

I think maybe peeps would have to go through too much trouble to rip off a modified ROM and claim it as their own, plus atleast we would all know the truth and laugh at the lil kiddies ;-)

Hacking the title screen to have the ASSEMbler logo in the corner and maybe end credits and some random bits of text in there would do the trick, a fancy intro may be a bit too pimpin :smt033

[d4s]

I think maybe peeps would have to go through too much trouble to rip off a modified ROM and claim it as their own, plus atleast we would all know the truth and laugh at the lil kiddies ;-)

Hacking the title screen to have the ASSEMbler logo in the corner and maybe end credits and some random bits of text in there would do the trick, a fancy intro may be a bit too pimpin :smt033

thats not a good idea imo.
the actual game mustnt be altered in any way.
i'd say an intro is ok, though.
theres no way to make it tamper-proof, but i dont think thatd be much of a problem.

btw, i have never worked with the n64 but im heavily into snes coding.
if you guys ever consider to release a snes proto and want an intro in front of it, be sure to drop me a line.
ive got selfwritten intro code up and running and we are not talking ugly static 16 colour pictures here. :-D

[AntiPasta]

I could help with the MIPS assembly if there's any need... though I know absolutely nothing about the N64's hardware.

[LeGIt]

The bid has been placed and Yakumo has the $$$ - but still not too much donations yet! Uk guys especially with the exchange rate $5 is not a lot! Even if you don't like N64 or ROMS it's still only a small amount for everyone to enjoy :smt033

[djb1986]

Damn, we didn't get it. :smt022

[Calpis]

Ahh what the hell happened?!

[djb1986]

Someone outbid Yakumo by 2,000 yen. The final price was 57,000 yen.

[Greatsaintlouis]

Oh sad... :smt009 Well, it was a good effort on the part of all involved. :smt023

Any chance we could see this sort of thing happen again, like if another Echo Delta cart pops up or something?

[Shiggsy]

arsenal on this board has Echo Delta so no need to wait, you can start bugging him right now :P

Shiggsy

[Calpis]

Let the pestering begin!

[cahaz]

damn! :smt009

sometimes ebat can be really frustating. oh well, i just hope donations will be bringed back to their owners. thx for your try. :-)

[Yakumo]

yep, we were out bid guys :smt022

Yakumo

[LeGIt]

Kind of a downer, but now my bank won't be screaming out at me saying 'feed me'. I was only prepared to go upto 55,000 though - I'll start sending out refunds to all the peeps who coughed up as soon as Yakumo sends the 55,000YEN back :smt023 If any other unreleased protos pop up for of course we can go for them again if I've got the money or if someone else pursues it

:smt033

[LeGIt]

I've sent out refunds to everyone who donated - if you could post to confirm you got your FULL refund I'd appreciate it because:

a) I know then that everything went fine
b) Peeps will know I haven't ripped anyone off :smt023

[Alchy]

Refund confirmed :smt045

[the_steadster]

Got mine

[Calpis]

Haha, I just noticed what this thread is titled. It's Ookouchi, not "Ohcouchi" which brings "Oh couchie" to (my) mind.

[djb1986]

Got mine.

[Shakey_Jake33]

Refund Confirmed.

[Silverhawk]

my response is very late but i got mine too long ago ;)

[Gilgamesh]

Hello

I should say immediately that I am not the owner.


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2790/ogi1.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/893/ogi2.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8894/ogi3.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4827/ogi4.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/385/ogi5.jpg


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/177/ogi6.jpg


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/978/ogi7.jpg


:rambo:

[Shiggsy]

It's been almost 5 years now but those look like the pictures that was in the original yahoo japan auction. I have them saved somewhere as well...

Shiggsy

[willcrook]

why such an low budget originally to try and get the game? - If I was around at the time I would of put abit out there for this.