SD or micro SD for everdrive 64

[KRIKzz]

right now i perform pcb design for n64 cart, but can't decide which type of sd will be beter
1) SD good that romset easy can be updated, but SD card stick out outside the case and need to modify shell. i not like it
2) good that SD inside of shell, not need to modify shell, but hard to update

personally i thinking that romset not need to update many times, so open a shell few times not looks like a big problem, but sticked out SD it is always a problem because need to be careful, otherwise easy to fall of SD connector with a piece of board :evil:. also not modified shell without extra holes looks beter (:
rss mmc can not be used as alternative because rs mmc cads usually have size not more than 2gb

[indask8]

MicroSD is perfect and I have dozens of microSD at home. :)

(And you can easily transform them in SD with an adapter)

[neomatrix]

standard SD

[5432]

I prefer SD. It´s not a problem for me modify the shell. I prefer take the card without open it.
(¿How many gigabytes occupy the "entire" romlist?)

[StoneAgeGamer]

I prefer regular SD for my Deluxe versions just because I don't want customer taking cart apart every time they want to change something.

[8bitplus]

Standard got my vote. Once the cart is modified its easy to just remove the card and pop it in a card reader.
Micro would me more hassle to me.

Looking forward to this new everdrive Krikzz, can hardly wait.

[ElBarto]

I prefer SD. It´s not a problem for me modify the shell. I prefer take the card without open it.
(¿How many gigabytes occupy the "entire" romlist?)

11G Zipped.

[goombakid]

I think standard SD is fine.

[aleomark]

Micro SD in order to don't have to mod case and looks better

[dutch]

Micro SD in order to don't have to mod case and looks better

+1

[sanni]

Best solution would be a micro sd that doesn't stick out but is accessible without opening the cart. Maybe spring loaded.
But opening the cart everytime you wanna replace a savegame is not a very smart design

[5432]

11G Zipped.
Thanks!

[Teancum]

I voted for standard SD since I end up using SD cards for multiple things. Although I hope their is a way to satisfy both. Maybe we could put space on for the Microsd for those enterprising enough to solder a connector on?

[erkan]

Standard, I like to maintain a smaller ROM set that I play and being able to easely plug in SD-card in computer to update the set when I want to add games is great IMHO.

[Greg2600]

My problem with the microSD and miniSD formats are that you have to put them in the adapters to read them on PC, and those adapters routinely fail. I've had several fail even from Kingston.

[APE]

My problem with the microSD and miniSD formats are that you have to put them in the adapters to read them on PC, and those adapters routinely fail. I've had several fail even from Kingston.

Thats the problem with every flash card format, except for CF being used in an adapter through IDE.

Full sized SD:
Larger size at cheaper prices
You can get an adapter for mini and micro if you really want to use them.

Cons:
It's kinda big (if you're measuring based on the size of a grain of sand)

MicroSD:
Small

Cons:
Can be lost in a box of crisps.

[button]

Maybe I'm just smokin crack, but for me all that matters is:

1. what will load games better/more reliably?
2. what will make it cheaper to produce and buy?

Whichever one that is gets my vote.

[derekb]

Voting microsd, I don't intend to keep every bad/alt/overdumped/underdumped rom in my romset so I'd rather just have everything tucked away neatly inside the cart itself.

[goombakid]

rss mmc can not be used as alternative because rs mmc cads usually have size not more than 2gb

Wait, so will the Everdrive 64 be different from the current Everdrives and be able to accept a 2GB+ media? If so, I may change my mind.

[Teancum]

yeah SDHC would definitely be nice for 64 everdrive.

[KRIKzz]

everdrive 64 will be supported with SDHC, so more than 2gb cards also will be supported.
when everdrive 64 project will be complete i will implement SDHC and fat32 for snes and sega by OS update

also everdrive64 use sdram instead of flash

[derekb]

will look forward to fat32 os update :)

[gtsamour]

Standard SD, easier to handle, easier to insert in the cart without having to unscrew the cart case everytime I need to do an OS update or insert roms.

[link83]

I voted for standard SD for the ability to easily backup and restore save files from my PC.

However, would it be possible to add the solder footprint for micro SD slot to PCB as well? I dont think it would take up too much space, and people who really want to use micro SD can solder in micro SD slot and ignore the standard SD slot (Obviously dont use both slots at the same time)

Alternatively maybe they could build this micro SD to RS MMC adaptor?:-
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=25185

[KRIKzz]

will be choiced only one

[takeshi385]

standard sd would be nice as its no problem to work with on my mac , but with micro sd i woud have to buy and adapter , second if your good with a rotary tool you can make it look nice although i do have the bit to open up a n64 cart, doing so overtime may strip the screws and be disasterest , second why fix whats not broken , or try to improve in this case as it work fine .

so eager to see the out come of this ,. and my own everdrive 64

[derekb]

most microsd cards come with an adapter fwiw

[takeshi385]

seems standard sd is winning yey

[veganx]

SD FTW!!

The best part with SD is that you can have 2 or 3 fit the entire library of N64 and take it with you.

EDIT: Just saw it now that you will improve capacity of the SD cards.
So it will depend on how much memory it will hold.

The N64 No-intro set has 8GB, can a cartridge go that far with fat32 ?

[Teancum]

If I remember correctly the main limitation of fat32 is no files above 4GB or at least that I remember.

[KRIKzz]

SD FTW!!

The best part with SD is that you can have 2 or 3 fit the entire library of N64 and take it with you.

EDIT: Just saw it now that you will improve capacity of the SD cards.
So it will depend on how much memory it will hold.

The N64 No-intro set has 8GB, can a cartridge go that far with fat32 ?

fat32 have limitation on single file size (4gb), but not limited by disc size. so all n64 romset can be writen on single SD

[Shambler]

+1 to SD. Much better I think, I really don't mind it sticking out the top as once the carts in the N64, it won't be coming out! :)

[veganx]

Well, I would change my vote.

There are MicroSDs with 16GB and that is more them enough for all the N64 games. So, if you can just add everygame and leave the shell intact that would be better.

[KRIKzz]

looks like standard SD won. damn (:

[StoneAgeGamer]

looks like standard SD won. damn (:

Haha! Maybe some Vitamin C will help ease the pain. (inside joke)

[radorn]

standard SD always

[Mamejay]

Go MicroSD. They are only a couple of bucks more that SD and once a full romset is installed what need do you have to replace it?

[StoneAgeGamer]

Go MicroSD. They are only a couple of bucks more that SD and once a full romset is installed what need do you have to replace it?

You are a little late my friend.