SDK/Software/Documentation thread

[Calpis]

I thought I'd start a thread related to software. (Free trade, info, help) I'm going to start gathering development software and wouldn't mind a unified place for member interaction.

Don't be stupid. Talk like this: "Hi, I'm Bob. I have P*oDG for PS2 and I'm looking for Mac C*d*Warrior for Y*r*z* let's trade!"

It'd be really cool if someone actually listed *pressed/printed* official software too for all consoles.

[HI_Ricky]

it mean show off???
http://www.super-news.com/001.jpg

[Calpis]

Not a place to show off, a thread where people can talk about software...

[HI_Ricky]

so, could you list you have software ?

[Calpis]

Yes, and the features of each program. For example, what is actually on those CDs of yours ;) How much should they cost? What are they packaged with?

I'd like to know personally:

- What software comes with the Net Yaroze?
- Can anyone list the specific discs that come with various PsyQ?
- Are all Katana/WinCE SDK backwards compatible?
- What commercial software is available for GB/GBC
- Are there any suites for NEC consoles?

[HI_Ricky]

Yes, and the features of each program. For example, what is actually on those CDs of yours ;) How much should they cost? What are they packaged with?

I'd like to know personally:

- What software comes with the Net Yaroze?
- Can anyone list the specific discs that come with various PsyQ?
- Are all Katana/WinCE SDK backwards compatible?
- What commercial software is available for GB/GBC
- Are there any suites for NEC consoles?

Net Yaroze:
Yaroze startup disc for ps
Net Yaroze AT/PC software disc
Net Yaroze key lock region memcard
Net Yaroze lightwave 4.X

PsyQ:
it plan on what hardware come with software.

Katana/WinCE SDK is compatible, just ver different

GB/GBC only use there offical SDK

[AntiPasta]

Stuff I have:

- N-gage SDK disc + booklet that was supposedly given away at E3 2003 (or
was it 2002?)
- P*S2 T*chnical Ref*rence D*sc 2001 :smt043

[Calpis]

Right now I've "got":

Kat*na R9 / DC
WinC* 2.12 / DC

Pr*DG for GC, PS2
Psy* N64, PS
Too many first party PS tools to count
Some IS GBA tools

[LeGIt]

Katana SDK R4 (for use with Set 4)

[HI_Ricky]

cool, all people get cool sdk...

[bigsexyolli]

KATANA R 9
Katana R 9 (europe release, 2 discs)
Katana R 10
Wince 2.1

[Tomcat]

psy-q for megadrive and its natty little file and some sega music docs

[Calpis]

I'd like for there to be a ASSEMbler member limited FTP, that'd be cool. Anyone have some space and speed for a pub?

[Tachikoma]

What would be the point? it would be naughty to share such documents and disks. ;-)

[Calpis]

Naughty to share anonymous files? :-D

[HONGXING]

I will set up a password-protected pub.

Certain people will get admin access and others will have download-only access.

Also, I can limit it to ?? MB per Session, so people don't start to leech everything without need.

For example, I am in need of SONYs Yaroze Dev-Tools (I don't own a Yaroze, but a debugger). I only got an somewhat-complete version of PSY-Q.

I think, only people with interest in development should access such a FTP.

[Tachikoma]

For liability purposes, anything further should be limited to individuals pm'ing each other.

[HI_Ricky]

that yaroze disc???
http://service-test.no-ip.org/yaroze01.jpg

but i'm use it better than yaroze....hehe
http://www.super-news.com/dtl-2000.jpg

[kammedo]

Ultra64 Board and 2.0K SDK (~100%) PC/SGI,
psyq N64 (from d******e)

Better than nothing :smt023

[HI_Ricky]

there only i have disc's
http://service-test.no-ip.org/ps2-sdk.jpg

[wombat]

HI_Ricky, it's very nice indeed that you have all those nice and rare stuff.. But don't you think its useless to post huge pictures everytime it is about stuff you have?

[Johnny]

Dev C/C++ :-D

Anyway, would not mind having some P*S2 SDK stuff. I had some manuals on .pdf format (remember that Antipasta? We got them from a irc channel). But my brother deleted them :angry

[Johnny]

HI_Ricky, it's very nice indeed that you have all those nice and rare stuff.. But don't you think its useless to post huge pictures everytime it is about stuff you have?

Agreed. Host them on imageshack, that makes thumbnails automatically :smt023

[HI_Ricky]

well. what can i do?
just type words?

sorry no more time type alot.....
well i have the disc, just people don't want i show it.

[AntiPasta]

Anyway, would not mind having some P*S2 SDK stuff. I had some manuals on .pdf format (remember that Antipasta? We got them from a irc channel). But my brother deleted them :angry

Oh yes I remember. Sadly, the HD I had them on died as well :angry
So I figure they're lost forever, but we might be able to sort something with that other disc I have if you're interested ;-)

Oh and HI-Ricky, how come you have the N*DS and qSP (sic) SDK's already? And I'd love to see some pictures of them! Do you also have the hardware?
:dance :boobies2 :happyhap: :ramen

[Calpis]

Yeah, I didn't intend for this to be a bragging thread.. I was hoping some people could help eachother "get" or use some of the software as well as comprehensively document what software comes in what packages... By this I mean: listing the disc's table of contents, file CRCs etc, a breif description of each file as well as pictures. All this stuff when finished should be compiled into another medium such as my wiki idea. This kind of stuff has to be done sometime, might as well be here to show that this board isn't a place for just smalltalk, it is supposed to be about "expensive shit." Help the community get recognition by bringing better content than "What does X Dreamcast game cost?" ;)

[Topic Archive]

Yeh, I'm totally confused by this thread...

:smt030

[HI_Ricky]

Anyway, would not mind having some P*S2 SDK stuff. I had some manuals on .pdf format (remember that Antipasta? We got them from a irc channel). But my brother deleted them :angry

Oh yes I remember. Sadly, the HD I had them on died as well :angry
So I figure they're lost forever, but we might be able to sort something with that other disc I have if you're interested ;-)

Oh and HI-Ricky, how come you have the N*DS and qSP (sic) SDK's already? And I'd love to see some pictures of them! Do you also have the hardware?
:dance :boobies2 :happyhap: :ramen

well, it a last post with pic.

PSP
http://service-test.no-ip.org/cwpsp.gif

[Chief Chujo]

Anyway, would not mind having some P*S2 SDK stuff. I had some manuals on .pdf format (remember that Antipasta? We got them from a irc channel). But my brother deleted them :angry

Oh yes I remember. Sadly, the HD I had them on died as well :angry
So I figure they're lost forever, but we might be able to sort something with that other disc I have if you're interested ;-)

Oh and HI-Ricky, how come you have the N*DS and qSP (sic) SDK's already? And I'd love to see some pictures of them! Do you also have the hardware?
:dance :boobies2 :happyhap: :ramen

Hmm. I think I may have the docs you're refering to.
It's not the 2.7 S*K Docs is it?.

[LeGIt]

I agree it would be handy to have all the software in the same place for people to actually use their "expensive shit" however most people who have dev kits have or can get hold of the relevant SDK to use it anyway. In many ways the software is useless to pretty much everyone else as a) they won't have the hardware b) a fair amount of software doesn't work without the hardware. What would be handy though is stripping the SDK's of usefull information for a "dev unit/software technical wiki"outlining all aspects of hardware/programming.

[HI_Ricky]

well, please keep looking cheap cheap cheap.
"cheap shit"= how long you can wait.(may be after rls 3-10year's)
"expensive shit"= how long you can wait.(may be before rls 3week- rls 3year's)

and plan on what you look for pay. use to develop/program it? for tech know? hacker?code?ice ?

if the dev util just for display on you home, of coz "cheap" is better
if the dev util for make money, of coz you not care it "expensive"

but for me. under officel price, it ready is "cheap", like after 3 year.
dev util no one want buy over offical price (but you a seller,you want sell it under cost?). and UNDER OFFICAL PRICE CAN CALL EXPENSIVE ?

[LeGIt]

Yes Ricky under or close the the office price is high :smt083 Official prices are to developers which includes the license to use it aswell as technical support. For collectors, we don't have the large bank balance of a company to pay for the SDK, nor does it come with the license or technical support hehe. No license + no technical support + not very rich customers = low price :smt045

[HI_Ricky]

Yes Ricky under or close the the office price is high :smt083 Official prices are to developers which includes the license to use it aswell as technical support. For collectors, we don't have the large bank balance of a company to pay for the SDK, nor does it come with the license or technical support hehe. No license + no technical support + not very rich customers = low price :smt045

may be you don't know.Official prices to developers(util,sdk) it "NOT Includes" the license. technical support...

well. i stop talk about low or high price . this is last post about price.

thank you looking

[Calpis]

Sooo... for a little bump, does anyone know of any GB(C) tools AT ALL? Considering how the system has been in use for more than 10 years, there must have been some official stuff leaked.

I'd like copies of documents for: SNES, GB and GG

Anyone have any sources? I have an ancient 1991 scene-released SNES doc, but I'd like something more up to date. 1994 is a good age.

Has anyone spotted official WS and NGP(C) docs? (Not that they're very necessary for those consoles)


I'd encourage people to post back here what documents people know exist for past generation consoles

[HI_Ricky]

ws, i have wondemagic(offical for game fan's program)
WS DEV BOARD WITH VIDEO OUT util i have (it use mod ws case to do game pad)
NGP......well...all SNK DOC/*DK only can find in there office..
NGP DEV BOARD WITH VIDEO OUT util i have (it use NEO-GEO port to do game pad)
GB(C) only IS-XXXX for GB/GBC i have

[Calpis]

Is there SDK for NGPC/GBC? There must be? If not, how do 3rd party developers get the information to make games?

Very cool about the WS/NGPC dev w/ video out, I've never heard/seen it. Sometime you should post pictures (not this thread) ;)

[HI_Ricky]

" IS-XXXX " is 3rd party developers TOOLS.....hmm. like "cross" dev util for sega..
WS/NGPC dev with video out... 1. it in my japan house. i will take a pic when i go jaapn. 2. if i post pic. people will talking i'm shit.

[wombat]

HI_Ricky, Don't let one of my post stop you from ever posting pictures :smt009.

[kammedo]

I'd like copies of documents for: SNES, GB and GG

Id like to get some official SNES Manuals too....btw kyuusaku, have a look for Qwerty's SNES scene doc, and the latest version of Y0shi's one....i use them for hacking the SNES games and they are very accurate, although i didn't try any of the code i wrote on a real SNES since i own a pal one and wasn't able to get a copier up to now :smt022

[Tachikoma]

Might as well ask as well:

Anyone got some D5 *DK or docs they can share? interested to see how far removed from the native GBA it is. That and wouldn't mind having a play with some code.

[Calpis]

I'd like copies of documents for: SNES, GB and GG

Id like to get some official SNES Manuals too....btw kyuusaku, have a look for Qwerty's SNES scene doc, and the latest version of Y0shi's one....i use them for hacking the SNES games and they are very accurate, although i didn't try any of the code i wrote on a real SNES since i own a pal one and wasn't able to get a copier up to now :smt022
I mean I have an scene-released copy of Nintendo's 1991 doc ;) A few hundred pages of illegible PCX scans.

[Calpis]

" IS-XXXX " is 3rd party developers TOOLS.....hmm. like "cross" dev util for sega..
WS/NGPC dev with video out... 1. it in my japan house. i will take a pic when i go jaapn. 2. if i post pic. people will talking i'm shit.

Definately not, we like your pictures but not in every thread. PLease start a topic and post pictures, I think people will like it very much.

[AntiPasta]

I'd like to put in a request too, for an official Sn0y doc on the Pureisteishiyon GPU, if there ever was one.

[Calpis]

Do you mean on it's internal archetecture like it's logical core? Or from a programmers standpoint?:)

[AntiPasta]

Do you mean on it's internal archetecture like it's logical core? Or from a programmers standpoint?:)

Well I meant the latter, but the former looks nice as well :-)
There's quite some holes in Nagra's or whoever's doc...

[Calpis]

I think Sony would hold on tight to the former, especially since PSX core is in PS2 and will be in PS3, so I doubt thats ever been leaked but I'll have a look for a GPU doc for ya

[Omar]

I'd like copies of documents for: GG

http://www.smspower.org/dev

[Calpis]

Wow, more than I could have hoped for.. MK3 docs! Thanks for the pointer and your great site! :D

[Johnny]

Anyway, would not mind having some P*S2 SDK stuff. I had some manuals on .pdf format (remember that Antipasta? We got them from a irc channel). But my brother deleted them :angry

Oh yes I remember. Sadly, the HD I had them on died as well :angry
So I figure they're lost forever, but we might be able to sort something with that other disc I have if you're interested ;-)

Oh and HI-Ricky, how come you have the N*DS and qSP (sic) SDK's already? And I'd love to see some pictures of them! Do you also have the hardware?
:dance :boobies2 :happyhap: :ramen

Hmm. I think I may have the docs you're refering to.
It's not the 2.7 S*K Docs is it?.

Don't remember. Can you share it?

[Calpis]

(Stay clear of this :

:angry )

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Well if anyone needs any Pr0D5 stuff, ask :) of course you'll need SDKs to accompany.


BTW: how come Sega docs are so common? Is it the Sega developer's mentality? :D

[SilverBolt]

(Stay clear of this :

:angry )

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Well if anyone needs any Pr0D5 stuff, ask :) of course you'll need SDKs to accompany.


BTW: how come Sega docs are so common? Is it the Sega developer's mentality? :D

Maybe, or maybe sega of america/europe just didn't care to much about what happened with the docs and stuff.
X-b0x stuff is also very easily obtainable maybe developer for M$ also don't care a rats ass :smt043

[Calpis]

I think thats because of the great number of homebrewers for the Xbox. Also, the XDK brings far better programs than 3rd party tools whereas on the other consoles they don't really.

[kammedo]

I'd like copies of documents for: SNES, GB and GG

Id like to get some official SNES Manuals too....btw kyuusaku, have a look for Qwerty's SNES scene doc, and the latest version of Y0shi's one....i use them for hacking the SNES games and they are very accurate, although i didn't try any of the code i wrote on a real SNES since i own a pal one and wasn't able to get a copier up to now :smt022
I mean I have an scene-released copy of Nintendo's 1991 doc ;) A few hundred pages of illegible PCX scans.
:smt043

[SilverBolt]

I just came across something that might be interresting the SDK for the tapewave Zodiac that pocket pc/game console-ish thingy
Does anybody have any experience with this machine ?
It appears to be programmed on palm os based software here's the read-me file:



************************************************** *******************
* Tapwave SDK - Readme File *
* *
* IMPORTANT: Read before using the Tapwave Software Developer's Kit *
************************************************** *******************

This SDK is designed for PalmOS 68k and Tapwave Native Application
(TNA) development using Metrowerks CodeWarrior 8.x, 9.x and Microsoft
Visual C++.

68k Development:

This SDK must be used along with Palm OS SDK 5.0 R2 headers and
libraries for 68k development (It has not been tested with earlier
versions of the Palm OS SDK). You can obtain the Palm OS SDK from
Palm Source (http://www.palmsource.com).

Tapwave Native Application for device:

This SDK should be used with Metrowerks CodeWarrior 9.2. CodeWarrior
9.2 is currently only available as a beta release. It may be possible
to use this SDK with other toolkits (such as CodeWarrior 9.0 or gcc), but
many runtime features will be missing. Go to
http://www.metrowerks.com/MW/Services/Beta/default.htm for more information
on the CodeWarrior 9.2 beta program.

Tapwave Native Application for PalmSim:

This SDK should be used with Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 with SP5, but it
should also work with any compiler that is capable of compiling standard
Win32 DLLs.

================================================== ===================
WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE SDK
================================================== ===================

* Documentation
Tapwave developer documentation

* Incs
PalmOS header files modified to support multiple compilers;
including Metrowerks 68K and ARM, GCC 68K and ARM, Visual C++.

* Incs/TapWave
Tapwave header files, which support various compilers

* PalmSim
Debug Palm OS Simulator for the Tapwave platform

* ROMs
ROM images for device and simulator

* Samples
Sample projects

* X-Forge
X-Forge development kit, which has its own documentation

* Tools
Various development tools

* ARM_EABI_Support
CodeWarrior runtime library for developing Tapwave Native Applications.
This library should be used along with CodeWarrior 9.2

[AntiPasta]

That's odd, it appears that the Tapwave uses a 68K and an ARM CPU... the venerable 68k just won't die :smt023

[HONGXING]

I created the FTP server.

Please PM me for account data (only developers or people known on this forum, no newbies that need to leech).

You got upload/download possibility, but delete is only possible if you contact me, to prevent mad deleters...
(I was long time ago in the PC warez scene, and we always had the problem with people deleting the pubs for fun...)

FTP server is 84.113.3.13

[Elgr]

.k

[LeGIt]

There is not much point of the FTP existing for trades, it's for people to dump anything and everything that they have! It's not like the old ROMs board ya know!

BTW hook me up an account and I'll upload some stuff tomorrow , as backups for my existing copies incase I scratch the discs ... :smt083

[dj898]

not sure whether this belongs to here but there's DC Runtime Library v3.1j toolkit on Yahoo Japan for at 1100 yen...

cheers

[AntiPasta]

There is not much point of the FTP existing for trades, it's for people to dump anything and everything that they have! It's not like the old ROMs board ya know!

BTW hook me up an account and I'll upload some stuff tomorrow , as backups for my existing copies incase I scratch the discs ... :smt083

Will you upload that same disc that I got (the $N0Y one with the fancy art) or shall I do it? :-)

[Elgr]

Which disc are you talking about.

[Chief Chujo]

Whoops. Wasn't much point in me putting the 2.7 docs up then :smt042

[Elgr]

Sorry bout that ;)

[AntiPasta]

Also included are the ps2linux docs (that commercial devs also get) which IMO are MUCH more valuable for dev, as it outlines all the hardware and registers.

It does? OMG! :happyhap:
I thought the Linux kit prohibited all that! Now all I need is a devvable PS2 :p

[Elgr]

Nah, ps2linux is actually pretty interesting. The only thing it blocks you out from is the IOP.

[AntiPasta]

does that mean you can't write IRXs? I think the homebrew community has written loads of those (that or they're all stolen) so there must be some doc floating about...

[Elgr]

No, of course you can write IRX files. You just need an IOP GCC compiler. PS2 Linux on the other hand can't. Its blocked out. You go through them to use what you need.

The ps2dev community does NOT use ps2linux, as they prefer having complete access to the hardware. Like a professional developer would, but without the libraries.

Though, the compiler sony distributes is GCC, so it should be legal to redistribute.

[HI_Ricky]

no, no, no, you can use PS2 Linux dev some stuff
but you need special ver PS2 Linux(support ps2fs ver.) :-D

[Elgr]

If you were speaking to me, I wasn't saying that ps2linux can't be used for dev, I said it can't be used for IOP dev. :)

[HI_Ricky]

"FULL" iop dev only TOOL can do this section.
but. if you mod ps2 have come out debug log. hehe.....