My DTL-H30001 "TEST" PS2

[HONGXING]

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What I find really interesting, it's a NTSC/UC debugging station, but has got an european power-supply with 230V/50Hz...
It also states on the back that it's 230V/50Hz.
And the warranty seal has not been broken -
so it must have been there from beginning.

[pit56]

china and australia have 220V power supplies too so maybe it's not a europpean one.

[Tachikoma]

True, but Australia is a PAL region, and to some extent is true for some Chinese console variations (I think).

[pit56]

of course australia is Pal region but europe too so...
i don't know country with NTSC U/C signal ith a 220 power supply, maybe for a studio in europe who devellop NTSC games before Pal games (UBISOFT ? )

[Calpis]

Asian consoles as of late use NTSC/220V.

[dj898]

Korea uses 220 VAC...
they used to run both 110/220 VAC till couple of years ago but now they switched to 220 VAC as standard...

[LeGIt]

UK *mostly* uses 240v, though if you're buying some really heavy duty kick ass power tools such as DeWALT (especially for outdoor/construction work) to reduce the chance of death corded devices can be bought in 110v - the downside being you need an industrial transformer which can survive a few hits to stepdown the current from 240v to 110v. It's better than using a 240v drill outdoors and something happening to the electrics resulting in :death

[dj898]

umm... most of tools sold around here are 240 VAC...
not a pleasant thought mate... :-(

[CJPC]

But what I dont get, its at 30001, but European? kinda weird!!!

[Zilog Jones]

It must be for European developers to do localisation testing, as the majority of them do release their games in North America - hence the "U/C". The majority of TV sets sold these days here are NTSC compatible, plus they can just use RGB anyway, so using one here wouldn't be a problem.

[ASSEMbler]

Your unit was from korea I believe.

[HONGXING]

What I also find odd, is that is plays PS2 games (master discs and originals) in the correct region, hence a PAL game in PAL.

But it plays ALL PS1 games, regardless of what region in NTSC!

So, what I got is a Korean debugger? Interesting :-)

[Tomcat]

UK *mostly* uses 240v, though if you're buying some really heavy duty kick ass power tools such as DeWALT (especially for outdoor/construction work) to reduce the chance of death corded devices can be bought in 110v - the downside being you need an industrial transformer which can survive a few hits to stepdown the current from 240v to 110v. It's better than using a 240v drill outdoors and something happening to the electrics resulting in :death

Meh i always find 110v equipment lacking in clout such as heat guns. :smt067

The best power tools are pheumatic :smt023

[Calpis]

IMO the best power tools use AA batteries, I'm not afraid of those ones ;)

[dj898]

hmm... I wonder if any of you've bought PS2 Test from assembler got NTSC unit instead of PAL?

Got mine today but it's PAL unit instead of NTSC? :smt022
maybe someone's out there wondering why they received NTSC unit instead of PAL unit? o_O

oh well... hope PAL unit has no issue to run NTSC-U/NTSC-J titles coz that was the reason I wanted NTSC PS2Test in the first place...

still top block. :smt023
thanks to him I got hold of my own PS2 Test...

cheers

[Tomcat]

IMO the best power tools use AA batteries, I'm not afraid of those ones ;)

Ive got a small kick ass soldering iron that runna off AAs runns hotter then a 110v

[dj898]

IMO the best power tools use AA batteries, I'm not afraid of those ones ;)

Ive got a small kick ass soldering iron that runna off AAs runns hotter then a 110v

mine's portable one runs off gas... :-D

[Tomcat]

yeh but i cant use gas on aircraft :smt022

[dj898]

huh? mate what were you doing on airplane welding soldering iron? o_O

[Tomcat]

lol you can get soldering iron that run off lighter fuel thought thats what u ment.

Some aircraft still have solderd joints :angry why????? there shit

[virtual alan]

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I`ll have to power up my TEST as didn`t know it would come up with something different.......suppose it makes sense as the DeBug does :smt083

[Taemos]

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I`ll have to power up my TEST as didn`t know it would come up with something different.......suppose it makes sense as the DeBug does :smt083

It's in one of the console information menu things. It boots up just as a normal PS2 does. Other than having TEST written on the top and "Debugging unit" on the information sticker, I wouldn't be able to tell mine was any different ffrom a normal PS2.

[HONGXING]

Yes, when I insert a Video-DVD, it recognizes it, but then writes something like "DVD Player not setup".

My CD-R copied PS1 games from any region are recognized even in the menu as originals. PS2 original games from any region are also recognized as originals.

"Normal" PS2 copies are recognized on CD-R as PS1 games and hang when you run them, and DVD-R copies give you are red screen.
You need to do master discs, if you intend to play copies.

All PS1 games run on my unit in 60Hz, PS2 games run in their correct video mode. It really sucks with PS1 games on my PAL TV.

[dj898]

Interesting.
on my PAL PS2 Test all titles run fine with varying degree of issue. With original PS2 titles all US/JP/PAL runs just fine without any visual issue that I can notice. I'm waiting for PS2 Component cable to text on my Plasma screen to determine whether it makes any difference - don't see why it would.

with PS1 although all regions again run on the unit but there are slight visual issue. Being PAL unit PS1 PAL titles run just fine. But with US/JPN titles the FMV is shown as if pushed to upper left corner of screen and not in the centre of screen. Some titles this pushing is fairly severe resulting top rows of FMV pushed outside screen area... Main game themselves are fine though... I had similar issue when running US/JPN DC titles on chip'd PAL DC on VGA - not sure whether this is something to do with PAL and all...

Although Assembler has agreed to exchange the unit it cost fair bit to send it back and if I find there's no major issue I'm thinking of keeping this unit. Soon as I get the Component cable I will burrow 480p titles and test on my HT setup which is geared for NTSC/60Hz rather than PAL/50Hz...

wish I can replace the PSU of mine to 240VAC instead of factory 110VAC but guess I will get around to it - I need to source the PSU in the first place anyway...

HONGXING:
what kind of problem do you have with PS1 on PAL TV?

cheers

[dj898]

What I also find odd, is that is plays PS2 games (master discs and originals) in the correct region, hence a PAL game in PAL.

But it plays ALL PS1 games, regardless of what region in NTSC!



If that is the case PAL PS2 Test would play all PS1 games in PAL regardless of their region. Now displaying NTSC in PAL-60 isn't big problem since most PAL TV can sync with it...

I can now see what's your problem. Your unit must pumping out NTSC-50 which I don't think there are many TV that can handle this one...

Maybe it's good thing Assembler got mixed up and sent me PAL PS2 Test. Let's hope I don't encounter any nasty surprise with the Component connection.

cheers

[Zilog Jones]

Wouldn't it be outputting PAL PS1 games in NTSC-60, though, if the PAL ones play everything in PAL-50?

Anyway, if the problem is lack of colour, then you'd need to get a TV that can handle NTSC 3.58 (and if can, you may have set it manually in the TV's menu), a TV/15kHz monitor that can display 60Hz signals correctly with RGB inputs (and get suitable cables) - *very* common in Europe (i.e. any decent brand TV made in the last 15 years), or a converter box for converting the colour system from NTSC 3.58 to PAL.

[dickibow]

Hi,

Just thought I'd clear something up, your TEST PS2 console is NOT of Korean origin but European. That is what the "E" stands for after the model number. Many large international game companies based in the UK that produce games for both PAL and NTSC regions use NTSC debugging units as well as PAL debugging units. I found this out through a friend at Sony Computer Entertainment in London.

There are quite a few peripherals that also have the "E" after the model number such as the English network adapter. It basically means that although the UK version adapter is the same as the USA version adapter (the one without the E at the end), the one with the E at the end of the model number was designed for the European market, so it will have European instructions and different software. The exact same thing goes for the debug PS2 units.

The "DTL-H30001 E" you have pictured would have been originally supplied to the games company with European instructions and software and power lead.

[ASSEMbler]

So for european setup (220) but for ntsc debugging.

[dickibow]

Yep, cos we use 220v but also have major english developing companies making games for both pal and ntsc regions. Therefore debugging machines for each TV signal are used.

I remember reading that someone on this forum bought a 110v PAL TEST console from you, Assembler. Is that right or did I dream it....?

So I think it works both ways.

[Polak]

It must work both ways, because American developers make games for Europeans too f.e. SOCOM US Navy Seals.

[gaming247]

03-08-2005 to 06-06-2006, biggest bump I've seen in a while. :icon_bigg It happens to the best of us.

[dickibow]

Whoa - never thought I'd see this post again! lol

[mdmx]

I have a DTL-H30002U. It says AC120V on the back, but works fine with 220V

[dickibow]

You must have had some balls to try that one!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mdmx]

You must have had some balls to try that one!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: I bought my unit from a guy in UK. He wrote in his auction that it's a 240V unit. He hadn't mentioned that it's labeled as 120V unit. After I got it, I was a bit wondered about the 120V label. So I had a bad feeling when I powered it up for the very first time. But it worked :nod: Later I also tested it with a stepdown converter at 120V which worked fine, too:thumbsup:

I like this multi-region, multi-voltage and multi dvd-/+r machine. The only downside is the broken expansion port :-(

[dickibow]

Not broken - just didn't get the firmware upgrade.

D'oh!

[mdmx]

Not broken - just didn't get the firmware upgrade.

D'oh!


yes, you're right. I wonder if anyone has these firmware upgrade cd. I'm pretty sure that it's a cd because it would take too much time for Sony's service employees to reprogram the firmware via iLink.