Why not to buy a PSP. (56k stay away) "Updated"

[Evangelion-01]

Remember a long time ago that the first batch of ps2's where fked? well, same with PSP:

#1 Dead pixels
http://up.haiiro.info/file/626.jpg
http://up.haiiro.info/file/614.jpg
#2 Some Screens wont even turn on
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/4c/ed/d9c0fd1485e4d638eaa8fcd9ea7a2e59.jpg
http://www.imgup.org/file/iup2653.jpg
http://www.imgup.org/file/iup2654.jpg
#3 Faulty drive?
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cf6y-oot/auto.jpg
when you press those marked places the disc jumps out and the game stops.
#4 heh.this sucks
http://ruliweb2.dreamwiz.com/ruliboard/gup/img_link3/79217_2.jpg
If you are playing a game and it goes to sleep mode, when it comes back the screen freezes.
#5 UMD drive wont close completetly
http://ruliweb2.dreamwiz.com:8080/ruliboard/gup/img_link3/79164_5.jpg
#6 Some analog sticks will come broken.
http://ruliweb2.dreamwiz.com:8080/ruliboard/gup/img_link3/79164_6.jpg
#7 Broken left button on d-pad and square button
http://ruliweb2.dreamwiz.com:8080/ruliboard/gup/img_link3/79164.jpg
#8 scratched screen once you open your expensive item anyone?
http://ruliweb2.dreamwiz.com:8080/ruliboard/gup/img_link3/79164_7.jpg

Other Problems:
-Problems will vertical refresh during fast movements
-Games like Ridge Racers have only 3hr of battery life
-Continues and long loading times
-Even though sony said it was region free, is not.
-Some consoles wont even work at all.

Source "Spanish, translated by me" (http://bblover.blogspot.com/)

I dont know about ya, but i am not gonna waste a shit lot of money for something like this , and i would rather wait for a local release and cheaper price. man, i love my ds :D

I sooo wanna play this:
http://ranobe.com/up/updata/up14719.jpg

That blog also has news about a translator function for the ds that will use the touch screen "eng-japanese, japanese-eng,and also the same to chinese and back, will include mini games and stuff.
:smt071 you got pwned psp!

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Update.

So that thing i mentioned before about the UMD disc jumping out if you pressed the marked spots. Well,Here are some vides:
UMD Disc jumping out while playing a game (http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/pspdefect2.mov)
Unit turning on and notting happening (http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/pspdefect4.mov)

[CJPC]

Wow nice informative post!

Lucky i spent too much money, cant get a PSP

There RAPING people for around $500 (the ones with preorders too!)

[madhatter256]

Wow. FInally a game that prolly puts the second screen on the DS to good use!!

[Juul]

The above is not true...

Some guy confirmed, after this 'so-called' info was posted on a board, that most of, or even all of this was made up and that photo manipulations (for example the broken analog stick) were used as some kind of joke. Of course, things like these certainly happened and will happen in the future (especially dead pixels), but I also think that there are people out there who would like to see Sony fail, and therefore diss them in every possible way.

And for the battery life, various sources say that the battery goes for at least 4 hours at maximum screen brightness and (almost) maximum speaker volume, and even 7(!) hours on the lowest brightness level. Besides, as you can also see on comparing pictures, the lowest brightness setting on the PSP is still maybe even brighter than the DS screen(s). So, I think an average of 5 to 6 hours of battery life is very acceptable.

[Baseley09]

Quick, burn the fanboiz!!!!!!!

I supposed there are no problems with the DS are there :drinkers:

[madhatter256]

The above is not true...

Some guy confirmed, after this 'so-called' info was posted on a board, that most of, or even all of this was made up and that photo manipulations (for example the broken analog stick) were used as some kind of joke. Of course, things like these certainly happened and will happen in the future (especially dead pixels), but I also think that there are people out there who would like to see Sony fail, and therefore diss them in every possible way.

And for the battery life, various sources say that the battery goes for at least 4 hours at maximum screen brightness and (almost) maximum speaker volume, and even 7(!) hours on the lowest brightness level. Besides, as you can also see on comparing pictures, the lowest brightness setting on the PSP is still maybe even brighter than the DS screen(s). So, I think an average of 5 to 6 hours of battery life is very acceptable.

But we have yet to see how long a battery lasts under medium brightness under a CPU instensive game. I'm pretty sure it will be less than 5 hours.

[id-republix]

What a pathetic topic.
Evangelion, do the reports of mass dead pixels in DS units slip your mind? Oh but that doesn't count does it, seeing as it's Nintendo??

Even if that BS post were true, so what, one faulty unit ? You actually believe there weren't any faulty DS' at release??


...but I also think that there are people out there who would like to see Sony fail, and therefore diss them in every possible way.

So bloody true. They're only out there to say whatever they can as they perceive as helping SONY to fail miserably. I saw no posts like this saying 'WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BUY A DS' when the DS reports of mass faulty units with dead pixels/random shut-down etc came about. Nothing from these fanboyzzzzz then.

[Evangelion-01]

Quick, burn the fanboiz!!!!!!!

I supposed there are no problems with the DS are there :drinkers:
well, only dead pixels michael jackson :-) like i said, i am going to buy a psp, but gonna wait... and what about fanboy shit? everyone is a fucking fanboy so dont even start

[ASSEMbler]

http://www.assemblergames.com/bbspics/614.jpe

[A. Snow]

Quick, burn the fanboiz!!!!!!!

I supposed there are no problems with the DS are there :drinkers:
well, only dead pixels michael jackson :-) like i said, i am going to buy a psp, but gonna wait... and what about fanboy shit? everyone is a fucking fanboy so dont even start

No, everyone is not a fanboy. Each system has their pluses and minuses. I have likes and dislikes about all the systems I own and also prefer some over others but I don't waste either my time or others screaming form the top of the mountain how one system rules and all others suck. It serves no purpose and rarely if ever changes minds. If you want to do that then go to the gamefaqs boards.

What is with this childish pwned shit by the way. Tell me exactly how in any way Sony got "pwned"?

[einbebop44]

Regardless of the truth behind the statements above, there were no mass amounts of DS screens with dead pixels. With LCDs this happens, but by no means were there a mass amount of defective units.

Also, given Sony's track record with consoles, I wouldn't be surprised if within a 2 years there are very few launch units left.

There are plenty of reasons not to buy a DS or PSP.

And I'm honestly sick of people justifying the PSP's sad ass battery life. Get over it, it sucks. "5-6 hours, that's acceptable." Uh huh...remember the Game Gear? Christ, Sony has already released an additional battery pack. Not a good sign. 5-6 hours is sad, for a device that size. Sad.

[Evangelion-01]

http://www.assemblergames.com/bbspics/614.jpe
:P

[Juul]

The above is not true...

Some guy confirmed, after this 'so-called' info was posted on a board, that most of, or even all of this was made up and that photo manipulations (for example the broken analog stick) were used as some kind of joke. Of course, things like these certainly happened and will happen in the future (especially dead pixels), but I also think that there are people out there who would like to see Sony fail, and therefore diss them in every possible way.

And for the battery life, various sources say that the battery goes for at least 4 hours at maximum screen brightness and (almost) maximum speaker volume, and even 7(!) hours on the lowest brightness level. Besides, as you can also see on comparing pictures, the lowest brightness setting on the PSP is still maybe even brighter than the DS screen(s). So, I think an average of 5 to 6 hours of battery life is very acceptable.

But we have yet to see how long a battery lasts under medium brightness under a CPU instensive game. I'm pretty sure it will be less than 5 hours.

Gamespot has just updated their site with a PSP + Ridge Racers test report. Unfortunately, as madhatter256 was here referring to, they state that the battery only lasts 90(!!!) minutes to 3 hours. This is mainly due to the fact Ridge Racers is a typical example of a CPU intensive game. I think 90 minutes is unacceptable! However, 3 hours on the other hand for such a game could be enough. When you're playing Lumines, or Puyo Puyo Fever you could easily add an hour to the battery life (I hope :-( ). UMD movie playback will encounter the same problems, I expect here the battery to last 2 - 2.5 hours.

Ah, well. Either way, I still wait for the bloody thing to be released in Europe. Maybe by the time the guys at Sony have updated some stuff and fixed the errors/imperfections we saw in the Japanese units.

[Evangelion-01]

What a pathetic topic.
Evangelion, do the reports of mass dead pixels in DS units slip your mind? Oh but that doesn't count does it, seeing as it's Nintendo??

Even if that BS post were true, so what, one faulty unit ? You actually believe there weren't any faulty DS' at release??


...but I also think that there are people out there who would like to see Sony fail, and therefore diss them in every possible way.

So bloody true. They're only out there to say whatever they can as they perceive as helping SONY to fail miserably. I saw no posts like this saying 'WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BUY A DS' when the DS reports of mass faulty units with dead pixels/random shut-down etc came about. Nothing from these fanboyzzzzz then.you are calling me a fanboy, then why do you get all mad?

[Funkstar De Luxe]

When are people going to stop this Sony bashing bull shit? Sony has got a lot at stake, not only the investment in the PSP but also the Sony brand. Do you think they would ruin both by putting out poor quality flag ship products?

Also, if you're going to play you PSP non stop for more than 3 hours then perhaps you should have a long hard look at your life.

[Alien Workshop]

What a pathetic topic.
Evangelion, do the reports of mass dead pixels in DS units slip your mind? Oh but that doesn't count does it, seeing as it's Nintendo??

Even if that BS post were true, so what, one faulty unit ? You actually believe there weren't any faulty DS' at release??


...but I also think that there are people out there who would like to see Sony fail, and therefore diss them in every possible way.

So bloody true. They're only out there to say whatever they can as they perceive as helping SONY to fail miserably. I saw no posts like this saying 'WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BUY A DS' when the DS reports of mass faulty units with dead pixels/random shut-down etc came about. Nothing from these fanboyzzzzz then.you are calling me a fanboy, then why do you get all mad?

I agree with Evangelion-01. Who is really being the fanboy here? The one who informs us of the faults with the PSP, or the one to quickly jump to its defense?

[Evangelion-01]

i found this on another forum and just translated it geez....

[Alien Workshop]

i found this on another forum and just translated it geez....

When I said I agree, I meant I agree with you.

[cahaz]

What a pathetic topic.
Evangelion, do the reports of mass dead pixels in DS units slip your mind? Oh but that doesn't count does it, seeing as it's Nintendo??

Even if that BS post were true, so what, one faulty unit ? You actually believe there weren't any faulty DS' at release??


...but I also think that there are people out there who would like to see Sony fail, and therefore diss them in every possible way.

So bloody true. They're only out there to say whatever they can as they perceive as helping SONY to fail miserably. I saw no posts like this saying 'WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BUY A DS' when the DS reports of mass faulty units with dead pixels/random shut-down etc came about. Nothing from these fanboyzzzzz then.

well, i must agree with you on certains points, but not every ones. nintendo change your console without any fees if there's dead pixels. i don't say sony won't do this too, but im septic about it... we all know how sony is with these types of troubles.

[Mr. Casual]

Im taking Id-republixes side on this, since Evangelion is a huge Nintendo fanboy.

[kstyle25]

can't wait till the turbo express2 comes out an pwns you all :smt023

[einbebop44]

Thank you, Gamespot for shutting everyone the FUCK up about the PSP's battery life. Thank you so much. I felt the need to use an expletive, because finally all this specualtion about the PSP's battery life can end.

3 hours isn't much on a plane flight etc or a long school trip or some crap like that. Besides, who said that you'd be near an outlet the whole time anyhow? 3 hours is sad, 90 minutes is just plain awful.

And please stop with this fanboy crap. No one is acting like a fanboy here. It's more than possible there are PSP units out there like the one above.

Has anyone here actually played a PSP?

[cahaz]

Im taking Id-republixes side on this, since Evangelion is a huge Nintendo fanboy.

im not taking a side because of the fanboyism, im taking a side because of the truth.


touched.

:smt033

;-)

[Hawanja]

I don't know guys, we all have our Ps1 & 2 horror stories. I personally have had two Playstations go sour on me.

Becasue of that, I will never be an early adapter of Sony game systems. I'll be perfectly fine waiting 6 months to a year, when the price will be cheaper, the system will be less likely to fall apart, and there will be more games to choose from.

That said, at that time I will definelty get a Psp.

[Evangelion-01]

I don't know guys, we all have our Ps1 & 2 horror stories. I personally have had two Playstations go sour on me.

Becasue of that, I will never be an early adapter of Sony game systems. I'll be perfectly fine waiting 6 months to a year, when the price will be cheaper, the system will be less likely to fall apart, and there will be more games to choose from.

That said, at that time I will definelty get a Psp.same here

[Evangelion-01]

i found this on another forum and just translated it geez....

When I said I agree, I meant I agree with you.i c... gotta read alittle bit more :P

[GaijinPunch]

Also, if you're going to play you PSP non stop for more than 3 hours then perhaps you should have a long hard look at your life.

Dude -- handhelds are perfect for long ass plane rides. I remember playing my GBA for about 8 of a 13 hour flight when the dickhead ticket person stuck me on the INSIDE of the only other guy on the plane close to my size (6'3", 185 lbs). 3 Hours is absolutely crap, regardless of whether you will "usually" use it that long.

My iPod is the same thing. It's not that I use it for 3 hours straight. But back in japan, I'd use it train to work->train to gym->gym->train home. It lasted, but if I didn't charge it every night, the battery died on the next day. And that, my friend, is a steaming pile of bullshit for a $400+ piece of hardware.

[id-republix]

Regardless of the truth behind the statements above, there were no mass amounts of DS screens with dead pixels. With LCDs this happens, but by no means were there a mass amount of defective units.


Mass was the wrong word, but there were many, as everyone knows, form the manufacturing facilities in China. So yes, it was a serious issue, and there were MANY DS units with dead pixels. So serious was the issue that Nintendo had to address it, which would NOT happen if it were an isolated issue.

But Nintendo's initial response in this regard was completely indefensible :

http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=8021



"With a small number of Nintendo DS screens, one or two dots on the screen may appear to be "stuck" on a particular color, such as white or red. This effect is caused when a particular pixel (the dots that make up the screen) is not working properly, even with the high quality standards set by LCD manufacturers. You will find this situation is common in many LCD devices, (PC monitors, televisions, cell phones, etc.) It's important to understand that this issue will remain limited to the pixels you have already noticed. The problem will not get any worse and you should not expect to see the problem in any other areas of the screen. We suggest that you use your system for a few weeks to determine whether this interferes with your enjoyment of game play. If, after using your system for awhile, you feel that this tiny dot is too distracting, the Nintendo DS does carry a one-year warranty. We are happy to inspect and, if necessary, fix your system at no charge within the warranty period."

Spong put it quite well themselves when they commented on the above : "It might as well read, “So, we sold you suckers a slightly broken new games console and you have the cheek to complain? What is wrong with you? Well, if you are such a baby that your broken screen is making you cry we’ll do some kind of mysterious restoration work which sounds like we’ll take your DS away for ages.”

All this whining about SONY's arrogance. Nintendo has just as much if not MORE arrogance on its monopoly in the handheld market.



There are plenty of reasons not to buy a DS or PSP.

At least the DS is out and people can judge it in their own hands. Bashing the PSP before it is out is pure bias.


And I'm honestly sick of people justifying the PSP's sad ass battery life. Get over it, it sucks. "5-6 hours, that's acceptable." Uh huh...remember the Game Gear?
Christ, Sony has already released an additional battery pack. Not a good sign. 5-6 hours is sad, for a device that size. Sad

The PSP cannot be compared to the GG; GG was big, heavy, and not very portable at all. The PSP uses an optical drive, has moving parts as such, has a much larger display, and as such the battery life of 5-6 hours quoyed for a game would be reasonable considering what is going on inside the machine. A laptop isn't going to have a great dela more going on and typically has to have a huge ass battery that lasts typically 1-2 hours. Yes - as I have said elsewhere 5-6 hours sucks for a plane trip - hell, this news of such sort playtime on Ridge Racers sucks as anything - for example (not many people are going to play the entire length of an 8 hour flight but what of international trips with multiple stopovers and flights?) , but is this reason alone to completely bash the PSP? What, it still can't be enjoyed? Who on earth is goign to be on a perpetual plane trip/ campout/ in general away from a power source for so long, ALL the time? I just hope that the battery charges quickly. Furthermore, for all we know SONY or a third party could be releasing a more powerful battery pack in the future that could last much longer just as was done with the GBA SP.

Give the PSP a chance. It cannot be denied there is strong Nintendo fanboyism behind many of the statements here, and despite the accusations above of my being a fanboy by defending the PSP (laughable)
- the last thing I would EVER be after the bullshit PS2 hype machine that was touted as a DC-destroyer (my ass) would be to be a SONY fanboy.

What I AM saying is that the PSP nowhere enar deserves the bullshit it is getting here, and regardless of your trying to pin it down to battery life, it's hardly just that. People are bashing the PSP just because it's SONY. And that is what's sad.

[ASSEMbler]

That's why they have warranties.

When psx first came out, I went through four of them in about a month as all the lasers were bad.

[Yakumo]

Dead pixles is no big deal really. My 17" Mitsubishi TFT has one crazy pixle that goes blue when the screen is black. My DS is perfect though but I also got one for Importaku and his has one dead pixle on the touch screen. I do belive that the PSP does have a shite battery life as do Sony. Why else release a replacable battery straight away. Nintendo didn't with their DS. I've managed to get 10 hours out of my DS on a single charge. Not too sure how long it's possible to get it to run for though.

Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see how many DS & PSP have faults before we can start slagging build quality.

Yakumo

[ASSEMbler]

Even sony laptops are known for their crap batteries. Wait for a 3rd party battery with a 20 hour life. :smt023

[id-republix]

Wait for a 3rd party battery with a 20 hour life. :smt023

Yeah. I'm sure it will happen. The PSP has SONY backing it; it's no small product and third parties will be rushing to alleviate whatever issues gamers have with it just as they have with eveyr single other console, niche or mainstream, for years.

[asnozz]

didnt they release longer lasting batteries for the SP...... or was that my failing memory? :smt042

[adam-james]

Well, mine is on its way from lik-sang towers... can't wait!

:o)

[asnozz]

Well, mine is on its way from lik-sang towers... can't wait!

:o)

im curious, no offense,

how much did you pay?

[Zilog Jones]

Yeah, didn't someone make an add-on for AA cells or something, or am I imagining things again? Though that probably won't be possible with the PSP as I doubt it runs on 1.5 or 3V, and 3 or 4 AA's would make things pretty big.

My opinion on those pictures:

The dead pixels could very well be true. It's very common for quality control policies of LCD manufacturers to pass TFT screens with one or two dead pixels (though probably only one with these smaller screens). I must have used about 100 PCs with LCD monitors in college alltogether over the past year and a half, and have only encountered ONE 17" with a noticeable dead pixel - and I notice these things! It's really not that common.

All the other pictures are pure speculation, though - God knows what way they could have been damaged. It could have come out the factory like that, but it could have just as easily been damaged in transport, in a warehouse, by the retailers, or (very likely) by the owners. SPECULATION!

About the batteries, though - until we see more tests and reviews I'm going to call that 90 minutes thing speculation too. It could have just been a particularly bad battery they were using, or was improperly charged. Though I'm not going to expect any exponentially better results than around 3-5 hours.

I really think having an optical disc drive in a portable games device is a bad idea, battery wise. I know Sony have been making MD Walkmans for the past 12 years or so, so they know how to make them, but with MiniDiscs you're reading pretty much continuously through the disc and at a pretty slow data rate. With the PSP it'll be reading a lot faster, and the laser will have to be seeking all over the place - and seeking eats the battery! With my MP3 CD Walkman, I get about 60-80 hours battery life when just playing straight through a 700MB disc. Now if I put it on shuffle (which will require the laser having to make more drastic movements between songs), the battery life is halved!

So thinking about this, good optimisation of how the data is arranged on the UMDs could help a lot with battery life, too, and I'm sure early games will not be well optimised.

[Greatsaintlouis]

This just in! Apparently the malicious hacker behind the dead pixel
conspiracy is none other than Nintendo, trying to sabotage the PSP to
ensure its continued handheld dominance! See how they have left a
mocking image made of dead and dying pixels on the screen of one
sad PSP owner!

http://img55.exs.cx/img55/7789/deadpixels3jd.jpg

That being said, I'd like to remind everyone that all devices using LCD technology are indeed subject to dead pixels - it's just a defect associated with the technology, so of course occasional PSP units will have dead pixels.
Or Nintendo DS.
Or GBA/GBA SP.
Or Palm/PocketPC devices.
Or iPods.
Or the Apple Cinema Display.
Or flatscreen monitors in general.
Or graphing calculators.

Get the drift? It's a problem with the technology. I have my own reservations about the PSP, but it seems to me that simply because it's Sony, there are enough people out there looking to find things wrong with the machine, and if it doesn't arrive made of solid gold, capable of creating beer out of thin air and wiping your ass at the same time, there will be people bitching about something.
Just my two cents.
I'm still sticking with my DS, tho.

[Importaku]

made of solid gold, capable of creating beer out of thin air and wiping your ass at the same time

WHAT!! you mean it now dosen't. Grr bloody sony they always change the spec in the finished product. :smt043

[Funkstar De Luxe]

Dude -- handhelds are perfect for long ass plane rides. I remember playing my GBA for about 8 of a 13 hour flight when the dickhead ticket person stuck me on the INSIDE of the only other guy on the plane close to my size (6'3", 185 lbs). 3 Hours is absolutely crap, regardless of whether you will "usually" use it that long.

My iPod is the same thing. It's not that I use it for 3 hours straight. But back in japan, I'd use it train to work->train to gym->gym->train home. It lasted, but if I didn't charge it every night, the battery died on the next day. And that, my friend, is a steaming pile of bullshit for a $400+ piece of hardware.

It's not $400+, it's $185 that SONY charge. That's almost giving it way, £90.

I don't think these things are designed for people who spend their entire day traveling without talking to a soul or having the good fortune to find a power outlet.

You are running a TFT screen, stereo speakers, a laser and an electric motor. And that's just the mechanics, not the internal workings. 3 hours is fucking good to have all that churning away. You think Sony said "we can make it last 5 days. But let's fuck'em and take it down to three hours" Big companies like Sony don't just thow things together, they are limited by what technology can do right now.

[Importaku]

Try reading it again, Gaijunpunch was on about the $400+ ipod not the psp.

[Funkstar De Luxe]

Why the hell was he telling me that? I don't care about you iPod.

[Johnny]

I don't know guys, we all have our Ps1 & 2 horror stories. I personally have had two Playstations go sour on me.

Becasue of that, I will never be an early adapter of Sony game systems. I'll be perfectly fine waiting 6 months to a year, when the price will be cheaper, the system will be less likely to fall apart, and there will be more games to choose from.

That said, at that time I will definelty get a Psp.

I always did this, mostly because i never have money to buy these stuff when they are released. My PS1, although SCPH-1001 / 94000 was bought a year after release. Worked for 8 years flawlessly. Gonna repair it soon.

My PS2, is a 3001R (V5), has a modchip since the beggining and i'm going to put a newer one, Matrix Infinity, by the end of the week. Still works flawlessly.

I guess i'm lucky

PS: By the way, if you go to Lik-Sang.com and check the page they show the disassembled, you can see that the LCD is made by Sharp, not Sony.

[Taemos]

Sony made a faulty console? Pish-posh!

[Zilog Jones]

How times have changed - I never heard of any faulty Hit-Bit MSX's when they came out...

My PSX has seen better days, too - I have to play it upside down to be on the safe side - and that was a 1996 model (5502)!

Also, it seems the PS2s started off crap, then got better around 2002, and then they moved production to China and they became crap again! I know someone who got a new PS2 this summer, and it's already making seriously dodgy-sounding clicking noises when loading stuff...

[id-republix]

Apparently the 'Ridege Racers only lasts 90 mins to 3 hours' claim was either bullshit or from people using the psp out of the box with the 51% charge:

From the Gaming Age :


-----------------------
The Setup:

The PSP reports 51% battery charge out of the box. The unit is used
(to play assorted games and videos) until it shuts down due to low
battery. It is then recharged to 100%.

Ridge Racers is inserted, and the AC Adaptor is unplugged. The PSP is
powered on and as the Ridge Racers logo appears, the clock is
started. The game is played continuously, with minimal time spent in
any menus and absolutely no replays watched.

The PSP is set to 75% max volume and brightness 3 (the highest
possible when using the battery).

Results:

At 3:45 - 3:48 (that's three hours and forty-five minutes) the POWER
light begins flashing slowly. Note that the light stays green, it
doesn't change color a la Nintendo's handhelds when the battery is
low--it flashes instead.

At 4:03:30, just over four hours, the game is interrupted by a
flashing low battery indicator, and the unit powers down.

So there you have it. Almost 4 hours exactly with max brightness and
more than adequate volume (especially if using headphones, which I
was not). Invest in a spare battery pack, and you've got no less than
8 hours of gaming (unless you're using the wireless adaptor, I
suppose).

[einbebop44]

Of course Gamespot's test doesn't count...nope, not at all. They're not respectable...

Oh, but that reaction to the news report from the absolutely hilarious Spong is.

Give me a break.

[id-republix]

Of course Gamespot's test doesn't count...nope, not at all. They're not respectable...


Calm down. Gamespot's test mayhave been from a faulty, or not fully charged battery. Or else how is the test above from Gaming Age explained where they got 4 hours from a fully charged battery playing Ridge Racers on max brightness and 75% volume? There's an obvious discrepancy here.


Oh, but that reaction to the news report from the absolutely hilarious Spong is.

What are you implying here? And how is Spong 'absolutely hilarious'?

einbebop, you know i respect you but you are getting way too sensitive over the DS and replies to your comments on the PSP. You've already said that you want the PSP to fail miserably so it's pretty clear where your attitude on the PSP and over-defensiveness on the DS is coming from, bias. You pretty much lose any image of objectivity when you blatantly say you want the PSP to 'fail miserably.'

[Zilog Jones]

Calm down. Gamespot's test mayhave been from a faulty, or not fully charged battery. Or else how is the test above from Gaming Age explained where they got 4 hours from a fully charged battery playing Ridge Racers on max brightness and 75% volume? There's an obvious discrepancy here.
That's pretty retarded of them to not charge the batteries first if they didn't - rechargeable batteries are NEVER EVER fully charged out of the box, and that's how it's always been! I know they may not have been able to read the manual, but seriously - who doesn't know this fact? Anyone who's ever even bought a mobile phone (and that's pretty much everyone between 10 and 75 these days) would have been told to charge them by the shop assisstants.

[einbebop44]

Spong is hilarious because of their often inaccuracies or colorful spins on events.

The hap-hazard marketing of the PSP, the subsequent lackluster line-up, the fact that the unit is nothing new, and finally, Sony's bullshit hype o meter about the graphics, capibilities, and, let's not forget, fake, self imposed launch shortages are why I wish the PSP to fail miserably. I'm sick of Sony's ridiculous business and marketing manuevers, and utter and complete lies about hardware. That is why I would like the PSP to fail miserably.

The PSP is simply a representation of the bullshit company Sony is. I am in no way comparing it to the DS, on its own merits, the PSP and Sony can die in flaming hell.

That being said, while I really hate Sony as pretty much a whole, I buy their game systems (not touching their shite consumer "products" with a ten foot pole), because I like the games. Thus, I will probably buy a PSP at launch, and contribute to Sony's take-over of the handheld market.

It's not entirely Sony's fault though. It seems to do with the problem of "being in the lead"--you become conceited, and act assholetastical. Nintendo certainly did it in the NES days, as they knew they had everyone hooked on their system. Same with Sony now. Except their whole company sucks monkey balls. I digress.

[Purge]

I actually DISPISE sony, with a PASSION and WAS loyal to Nintendo until they took the patent on portable emulation. Honestly, to me, with the exception of battery life (which is a BIG factor me as I'm rarely near an outlet, and when I am I dont plan on taking my charger with me EVERYWHERE I go) I think its the ONLY thing Sony has done right so far. Ive got to leave but I will explain later if I remember to come back to this topic :P

[Aero-X]

This just in! Apparently the malicious hacker behind the dead pixel
conspiracy is none other than Nintendo, trying to sabotage the PSP to
ensure its continued handheld dominance! See how they have left a
mocking image made of dead and dying pixels on the screen of one
sad PSP owner!

Source please.

[Alien Workshop]

Get the drift? It's a problem with the technology. I have my own reservations about the PSP, but it seems to me that simply because it's Sony, there are enough people out there looking to find things wrong with the machine, and if it doesn't arrive made of solid gold, capable of creating beer out of thin air and wiping your ass at the same time, there will be people bitching about something.
Just my two cents.
I'm still sticking with my DS, tho.

That's the problem though. Sony has such a horrible record when it comes to hardware, that people are expecting the system to be loaded with flaws and faults, especially to first batch of systems.

[einbebop44]

This just in! Apparently the malicious hacker behind the dead pixel
conspiracy is none other than Nintendo, trying to sabotage the PSP to
ensure its continued handheld dominance! See how they have left a
mocking image made of dead and dying pixels on the screen of one
sad PSP owner!

Source please.

GSL was kidding... :smt043

[Johnny]

Stop this shitty talk about PSP x DS. Damn. :angry Move on! Discuss other stuff!

This Sony hate is getting ridiculous. If you don't like them, or their systems, don't buy! Sony makes bad products? (i agree at some extent). Buy from other company!

The funniest coments are about the LCD dead pixel. It's known to happen on LCD for ages, and people complain about them. Sharp makes the damn LCDs! The PSP is brand new, if you have a bad PSP, i'm sure they'll replace it. Think about the bad marketing if they don't.

I agree with Yakumo, about the shitty battery life. 6 hour (max) is terrible. Don't compare it to the Nomad or the GG, because they are old, and batteries technologies are different today. I think some company, will release a better battery in the future. I don't think it will be bigger than 10hours of life, but it will be an improvement.

One of the curious thing about people is how easy they endorse other people's opinion, and make it their own, without thinking about testing it first.

I won't say the PSP is bad before i test it in my hands.

[Aero-X]

This just in! Apparently the malicious hacker behind the dead pixel
conspiracy is none other than Nintendo, trying to sabotage the PSP to
ensure its continued handheld dominance! See how they have left a
mocking image made of dead and dying pixels on the screen of one
sad PSP owner!

Source please.

GSL was kidding... :smt043

:smt083 :smt082 Sarcasm is hard to tell when written.

Agree with Johnny whenever I open a thread about DS or PSP thinking I´ll get more information on each handheld it always ends up in a fight between the two :smt014 and this is happening on the whole damn net.

[Greatsaintlouis]

Source please.

I think it was on Slashdot.

[Mr. Casual]

Cahaz, I wasnt being a sony fanboy...just to let you know, but Evangelion has said some pretty nintendo fanboyish things in the past...and if it was "sarcasm", I guess I didnt see it.

That aside, I dont bash systems, or glorify others, or make threads devoted to how crappy something is, im with Johnny, im tired of all the Sony hate, that gets old and repetitive.

[The_Squeege]

I have nothing against the PSP but everything against Sony. I bought a $100 pair of headphones that seemed to be designed to break, when they did, they charged me $140 for the repair....which is bullshit. Then my MD which was $250 broke after 2 months of light use, the lid wouldn't close and it wouldn't record, when I sent it in for repairs it came back but the buttons didn't work...so now it sits on my desk, I might as well have burned the $350 I gave to sony.

[kstyle25]

you paid 40% more for the repair than the product itself...you sure you didn't deserve it.. :smt042 :smt082 :smt043

[The_Squeege]

I didn't pay for the repair, that's just how much they were asking for it.

[nem]

About that screen contrast (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=856103&postcount=393)... well...

1 - 0 : PSP - DS :smt083

[Tachikoma]

About that screen contrast (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=856103&postcount=393)... well...

1 - 0 : PSP - DS :smt083

Well that settles that argument, thank you very much! :smt045

[Paulo]

oh well that post just smashed it. Even at the lowest brightness it looks decent!

[Alchy]

Because we all know how accurately digital cameras represent screen brightness...

I've stayed out of this argument so far, because it's fairly stupid given that most people here haven't actually had a chance to play on either machine. Time will tell which system is reliable and well made, and which isn't. I have reservations about the PSP, but they be unfounded; I trust in Nintendo's ability to make a decent cart-based handheld, but I may be diasppointed. But until I get a chance to play both systems I'm certainly not going to engage in arguments based on speculation - and a couple of photos from some anonymous guy on a forum doesn't change that.

[nem]

Because we all know how accurately digital cameras represent screen brightness...

Yes, quite well actually. :smt023

Small test I did just now. My digital camera is a cheapo model, so the colour reproduction isn't very good (the orange should actually be red) and the contrast is a bit skewed (light areas are too white, dark ones too black). The first pic came out way too dark, because of the flash, 2 & 3 are fairly spot on.

Test pic 1 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/samuraiukot/flash.jpg), Test pic 2 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/samuraiukot/noflash1.jpg), Test pic 3 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/samuraiukot/noflash2.jpg).

I know, I know, this is hardly going to convince you, but I'm still positive that the PSP screen is good enough even with the brightness set to low.

[Mr. Casual]

Im getting both handhelds, since they BOTH look good. And Nem, your pics were VERY good. Thanks for sharing them with us. And yes, they still wont convince some people and arguments will ensue since this is the internet after all.

[Alien Workshop]

A review from someone who has had hands on experience with the PSP,

http://nfg.2y.net/games/psp/

[Mr. Casual]

I know now how to make the Psp not have the drive open on you...
http://www.auspost.com.au/GAC_Image_Metafile/0,,2715,00.jpg

Problem solved. :smt023

Or you could buy the third party "psp only" tape that might come out for it. :smt043

even though it appears to have some problems, the millions of third party things for it could make it awesome.

[Tachikoma]

I know now how to make the Psp not have the drive open on you...
http://www.auspost.com.au/GAC_Image_Metafile/0,,2715,00.jpg

Problem solved. :smt023

Or you could buy the third party "psp only" tape that might come out for it. :smt043

even though it appears to have some problems, the millions of third party things for it could make it awesome.

Best post ever!

:prayer: