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virtual alan
05-08-2009, 12:40 AM
I have a 1000 and I think for general use is great

Quite solid, doesn`t feel flimsy

Has anyone here used 2000 or / & 3000 or even has all three for any insane reason

Would there be any eason to buy a later version if just for general gaming? IE slimmer but don`t feel as sturdy etc

Just a freind is interested in getting one & I said I would do a bit of homework for him (with your help ;-) )

Christer-swe
05-08-2009, 01:42 AM
The latter versions have more RAM and reads UMD's faster (thanks to a buffert when reading the discs). I could be wrong though, I only have the 2000 version.

Barc0de
05-08-2009, 06:03 AM
the 2K is slightly better for "older" PSP games, since they weren't made with the 3K's pixel arrangement in mind. That said, the 2K series are fairly solid, and so are the 3K ones, although no where near the sturdiness of the first one - with the added benefit of being lighter, yet the grip is a bit too thin for big hands like mine. My fingers complain, but my wrists are thankful that I don't own a 1K.

Either way, it's certainly worth having either a 2K or 3K in addition to the trusty 1K. The 2K has some significantly better backlight compared to the previous model too.

If you're a skype user, the 3K version is well suited for the task, considering it contains a built-in microphone. Probably the single reason I d like to have one.

Skaarg
05-08-2009, 12:47 PM
The 2K and 3K are the best performance wise. I've heard for right now though that the 2K is the best if you're interested in homebrew stuff. I imagine it's only a matter of time though before the 3K gets there. My 1K satisfies my needs for now though.

Martin
05-08-2009, 05:07 PM
1k, M33 software, reads from card quickly and great for ROMs

Barc0de
05-08-2009, 05:45 PM
1k, M33 software, reads from card quickly and great for ROMs

and the 2K doesnt' offer all that? ;-)

Christer-swe
05-08-2009, 05:54 PM
and the 2K doesnt' offer all that? ;-)

It does offer all of that, and better.

Keberasky
05-09-2009, 10:17 AM
I'll summarize the differences here.

2000/3000 Pros over the 1000:
Brighter Screen
Video out using either composite or component cables (some features only work with component cables)
USB Battery charging (when in USB mode)
Double the amount of memory (64mb)
Ability to use Skype
UMD Cache abilities
More colors for the official firmware.
Smaller and lighter weight
2000/3000 Cons over the 1000:
Old headphones with remote don't work in the 2000/3000 series.
IR Port was removed (I don't think this was officially used.)
New batteries. Old ones will work in the 2000 series but you have to buy the battery cover which is no longer manufactured by Sony.2000 Pros over the 3000:
2000 can install custom firmware (with the exception of the very last versions of the 2000 series).
The screen doesn't have the "interlace" issue that the 3000 screen has.3000 Pros over the 2000:
Screen is able to display more colors.
Brighter display.
Built in Microphone.
Able to play PSP games on your TV using the composite cable (the one with yellow, red, and white RCA connectors).
2000 series is not being manufactured anymoreNote all PSP can play homebrew but presently the firmware version must be 5.03 or below.

Custom firmware features:
Ability to play UMD games from the memory stick (called ISO/CSO) which saves battery usage.
Ability to play homemade Playstation One game images (not just the ones on the PS store).
Ability to install customized icons, themes, and plugins.
Able to change your PSP region.
Basically a fully unlocked PSPThat should help your friend make a decision.

Tachikoma
05-09-2009, 05:48 PM
The screen on my PSP1001 is brighter than my PSP3000, but it's the infamous Sharp screen... even though it's American oddly...

Barc0de
05-09-2009, 06:06 PM
then it isn't infamous, it's the legendary sharp screen ;)

PhreQuencYViii
05-09-2009, 07:40 PM
So should I sell off my 1000 and get a 3000 or wait for the wtf thing they might announce?

Tachikoma
05-10-2009, 04:41 AM
I'd wait, if a new PSP is out (and I dare say it will be) then it will be announced very soon.

Keberasky
05-10-2009, 07:06 AM
So should I sell off my 1000 and get a 3000 or wait for the wtf thing they might announce?

It all depends on what you consider important. The new PSP Go (or whatever it will be called) doesn't have a UMD drive. I can only imagine that if you have a bunch of games on UMD that you will be stuck with purchasing them over again via the store. So if don't want to do that 3000 is the way to go.

Sony also has a tendancy to remove certain ports/features whenever they come up with a major revision to the hardware. It won't be one of the essential ones such as memory stick, or Wi-Fi. That leaves the headphone (video out part of the jack) or the USB port that they could remove. That's all speculation on my part obviously but it does fit the pattern.

Personally myself the 2000 series has the best combinations of all models albiet you have to buy these on ebay.

PhreQuencYViii
05-10-2009, 09:11 AM
I guess I'm going to wait and see. I just bought a 4GB memstick (to replace my 32mb...lol) and my plan was to grab some PSone games, etc. I myself am moving to digital shit to save room/money etc, but it also doesn't help when Sony has Jeanne Darc up for 22$ when it can be had for a ton less. But, theres some killer prices too. Hell, all the PSone games are excellently priced, especially being used on PS3 and PSP. How the hell do games that use R2/L2/2nd Analog work though?

I also own a whopping 3 PSP games, so no loss.

Keberasky
05-10-2009, 11:00 AM
Hell, all the PSone games are excellently priced, especially being used on PS3 and PSP. How the hell do games that use R2/L2/2nd Analog work though?
I happen to agree that the pricing for PSone games are great...though I wish the selection was better.

As far as how the buttons work...it's an emulator and there is button mapping. By default the L,R, Analog map to the L1/R1 and left analog stick. You can change this on the fly by pressing either the home or PS button (the game will pause when you do this) and using the settings options . There are 4 predefined settings and in the more recent firmware I believe you can set your own mapping. Of course you are still short 1 analog stick and 2 buttons so it doesn't work well with games that use those buttons at the same time.





I just bought a 4GB memstick (to replace my 32mb...lol) and my plan was to grab some PSone games, etc.
You will probably end up like me and have 5 of those stick with all of your games on them. This is one of those hidden costs that is higher on the PSP compared to other platforms. If you bought the memory stick for say $20.00 and the stick stores say 4 games, each game must cost $5.00 less online than the UMD version in order to break even.

Those memory sticks are also easy to loose in the cushions of a couch or in a car or accidentially washed by the washing machine because you left them in your pants pocket. On the PSP it's a wash for digitial download. :lol:

PhreQuencYViii
05-10-2009, 11:03 AM
Wow, so it must be tough to control cameras and stuff?

I paid 20$ for it. I don't think I'm going to be downloading much of anything but PSone games, and later on I'm getting a PS3 so they can live on there. Also got a 2GB high speed whatever SD for the Wii.

Keberasky
05-10-2009, 11:17 AM
Yeah any game that uses both analog sticks pretty much is unusable. And yes there have been cries to Sony to add a second analog stick ever since the PSone games option was introduced and even more when hackers figured out how to use the emulator.

If you only purchase PSone games which can be up to 800mb in size the minimum number of games will be 5 single disc games on a stick. That's probably plenty for now unless you like racer games.

PhreQuencYViii
05-10-2009, 11:23 AM
Yeah, the only game I have to replace is Suikoden and Twisted Metal 2 so I can sell the hard copy. The rest are whatever I wanna play. I miss Crash 2 and 3! You can redownload the games and stuff whenever right? LAter on I'll grab a huge stick when I need it or just keep two with me.

Wait, is the new PSP even going to use Memstick duo?

Keberasky
05-10-2009, 11:44 AM
It's just like the PS3 so yes you can re-download them (though I don't know what limits are applied to that such as the number of times you can re download to the same PSP or different PSPs)

If they pull out the memory stick how are you going to be able to get your music on to the PSP? I could be wrong on this and they could take out the stick but leave the USB (again pure speculation).

PhreQuencYViii
05-10-2009, 11:57 AM
What I mean is, are they going to use different memory cards? I know sony has some other memory stick now thats smaller?

Keberasky
05-10-2009, 12:13 PM
I can only see that if there is some adapter for it (like SD Micro to SD Mini.) To come up with a different memory type all together would just cannibalize memory stick duo, not to mention it wouldn't be compatible with the older PSPs, or the PS3 or anything else for that matter.

Christer-swe
05-10-2009, 10:02 PM
If they pull out the memory stick how are you going to be able to get your music on to the PSP?

Built in harddrive. If they launch it with a 20GB HDD, I could live without a memory stick. I'm going on a big trip this summer with a lot of boring moments, so even with my 8 GB MS I'm pretty limited with how many movies I can bring.

johnace
05-11-2009, 06:05 PM
I have a 1000 series and i love it...good build quality M33 firmware and 4 gig ms is all you need really until the "Psp Go/Psp2" is released.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/johnace/new_psp.jpg

subbie
05-11-2009, 10:17 PM
Yikes that mockup is somewhat ugly.

No analog sticks, too ipodish and shitty d-pad.

Second this PSP go isn't a PSP2. The real psp2 will definantly be drool worthy.

Christer-swe
05-15-2009, 11:42 PM
shitty d-pad.

Exactly. No way will they give up on the d-pad they have, it has become somewhat of a trademark for Playstation.

I'd like a slide function though. I often use my PSP for movies, so a slide function would mean a bigger screen.

Bluehaze
05-17-2009, 11:21 AM
Keberasky (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/member.php?u=37729)'s post of comparisons was really good. Overall, I think your choice of PSP will largely depend on two questions: (Q1) Do you primarily want to play PSP games or run emulators and custom firmware? & (Q2) If you want to primarily play PSP games, then are there ones that are currently out that you want to play or are you looking towards the future?

Q1 is very important because as the new PSP2 comes out, then it will take an additional period of time for the crackers & hackers to develop custom software and firmware. Thus, if yes to emulators and firmware, then yes to the current and older models, because otherwise you may be waiting quite a long time.

Q2 is dependent on a large point that someone made, which is that Sony has a good reputation of dropping old games, features, and BC in new hardware updates. Thus, if you are wanting to play old games and are not too concerned with new games and software, then once again the current PSPs would be the best.