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ASSEMbler
01-26-2009, 10:33 AM
What do you predict for 2009?

$150 xbox 360?
$249 ps3?
$149 dsi?

It doesn't have to be what I am saying, just what you think will happen this year.

Pikkon
01-26-2009, 11:10 AM
I would go with the DSI.

karsten
01-26-2009, 12:53 PM
i expect a ps3 bundled with a game at 299

Gamesreview
01-26-2009, 01:25 PM
No! Come on. Guys!

Did you all see the numbers on Sony? A 3 billion $ loss.
Ms firing 5000 of its staff.

No price drops for either system.

sequent_blender
01-26-2009, 02:35 PM
I predict that Codemasters will take the Formula 1 licence they purchased and produce the best Formula 1 game ever played.....

graciano1337
01-26-2009, 03:24 PM
I predict A LOT of sequels in 2009. Much more than 2008. I wish the DSi was $149...

z_killemall
01-26-2009, 05:05 PM
No! Come on. Guys!

Did you all see the numbers on Sony? A 3 billion $ loss.
Ms firing 5000 of its staff.

No price drops for either system. I think that at least in Sony's case you're seeing things wrong. Ok, Sony had an important loss this year, but it was caused by the poor sells of the PS3, which are mostly caused by the high prices of the units.

Lowering prices can be a risky move, but if it's done right (with some ad campaigns and stuff like that) lower prices mean more sales, with more sales more companies become interested in creating games and exclusives for the PS3, which means even more sales and then Sony gets a nice profit. Consider lowering prices as a medium-term investment...

Gamesreview
01-26-2009, 05:15 PM
I think that at least in Sony's case you're seeing things wrong. Ok, Sony had an important loss this year, but it was caused by the poor sells of the PS3, which are mostly caused by the high prices of the units.

Lowering prices can be a risky move, but if it's done right (with some ad campaigns and stuff like that) lower prices mean more sales, with more sales more companies become interested in creating games and exclusives for the PS3, which means even more sales and then Sony gets a nice profit. Consider lowering prices as a medium-term investment...

I have to disagree. Not so long ago, last month, Sony stated they made 50$ profit/unit. Sorry.

karsten
01-26-2009, 05:48 PM
then i guess they can easily lower a 100$ and try to actually sell games and accessories too...

z_killemall
01-26-2009, 06:07 PM
I have to disagree. Not so long ago, last month, Sony stated they made 50$ profit/unit. Sorry.
Yeah, it's widely known that PS3's profit is too low, but if they start selling more units they can make bigger batchs of units and that lowers production costs considerably, which would allow Sony to keep a profit margin after some time.

If Sony wants to take the PS3 to the top they know they'll have to make some efforts, but if they don't do something about the prices soon the PS3 won't have a great future...

port187
01-26-2009, 07:10 PM
Here the 360 is 150 euros already (and normally it's a 1 on 1 with the dollar) so I guess it shouldnt take too long for the US to have 150 dollar 360's
As for the PS3 they really have to lower the price.

Gamesreview
01-27-2009, 12:58 AM
Yeah, it's widely known that PS3's profit is too low, but if they start selling more units they can make bigger batchs of units and that lowers production costs considerably, which would allow Sony to keep a profit margin after some time.

If Sony wants to take the PS3 to the top they know they'll have to make some efforts, but if they don't do something about the prices soon the PS3 won't have a great future...

Nah, a 25$ pricecut won't pull buers over. That is an illusion.

ServiceGames
01-27-2009, 04:05 AM
Would you rather have $1 of profit per glass on 1000 glasses of lemonade or 25 cents profit per glass on 10000 glasses of lemonade?

I'm sure that sony knows their market far better than most of us do. If they can maximize profits via a price drop by making up a loss through subsequent sales and licensing deals they will do just that.

ASSEMbler
01-27-2009, 04:08 AM
With the yen this strong it's hurting them for sure.

Alchy
01-27-2009, 04:25 AM
Nah, a 25$ pricecut won't pull buers over. That is an illusion.Who said anything about a $25 price cut? Sony would need to cut their price by $200 to match the low end competition in their market ($199 360 Arcade vs $399 baseline PS3). Obviously this isn't going to happen, but a $100 price cut isn't out of the question by any means.

z_killemall
01-27-2009, 05:23 AM
Nah, a 25$ pricecut won't pull buers over. That is an illusion.
I didn't talk about 25$, they're probably are gonna lose some big bucks in the process but big companies know what they do and it's quite common that they lose some money in order to make an even bigger profit.

Don't forget that consoles are not Sony's only thing in gaming market, if Sony sells more consoles they sell more games (Sony has their own game developers and most game developement companies pay licenses for games), accessories (which even if they're cheaper they give a bigger profit percentage), Blu-ray movies (if PS3's price lowers enough it could start compiting with Blu-ray players too) and PSN memberships (which can give some nice profits too if it's handled properly), so I think they'll be able to survive until the PS3 starts giving some money...

Gamesreview
01-28-2009, 02:13 AM
As a comment to all comments above:

Sony can't permit more losses. Its bankbalance is totally different then say Microsoft's. I would even dare to say that if this situation continues, Sony's PS3 might be their last console.

Owning both consoles, I can only conclude that I played MGS 4 and the Misses plays LBP on it. It is a nice machine, but lacks exclusives and is just too damned expensive in purchase. When game titles are multi-platform, usually the Xbox360's are in 1080P and the PS3's are in 720P/1080I. In short, the Xbox360 titles look better. All in all for mass market purposes the PS3 is way overpriced. Especially considering the current economical climate where it would be hard for Sony to get money from the fininancial institutions. They simply can't afford big losses. And the pricegap towards the Xbox360 is simply too large.

Can we call out: R.I.P. for the PS3 in 2011? Or for that matter R.I.P. Sony? Banks are falling, why not Sony?

Alchy
01-28-2009, 03:39 AM
Can we call out: R.I.P. for the PS3 in 2011?Give me some compelling reasons why Sony would withdraw a console that has sold tens of millions of units, is their lead Blu-ray device, and on which they make a profit per unit. This kind of speculation is ridiculous. It's exactly the same as the "oh no the gaming industry is about to collapse" shit that littered this place up a couple of years ago.

Gamesreview
01-28-2009, 03:48 AM
Give me some compelling reasons why Sony would withdraw a console that has sold tens of millions of units, is their lead Blu-ray device, and on which they make a profit per unit. This kind of speculation is ridiculous. It's exactly the same as the "oh no the gaming industry is about to collapse" shit that littered this place up a couple of years ago.

Who had thought the name SEGA console manufacturer would ever disappear? Could Sony follow the same path? If Sony will drop its price, which they might be forced to (also due to the economical climate), the Xbox360 will be hitting a lower number also, making the price drop worthless. It is not that the PS3 outshines the Xbox360 except for a very standard blue ray player, which at that time you can buy for an apple and an egg.

Sony = next Sega?

PS: the PS3 sold tens of millions of units??? Don't think so. The PS2 did.

ServiceGames
01-28-2009, 05:32 AM
Don't forget that Sony has already paid for existing units with the borrowed money that is rolled into last years losses. They need to move that product in order to get some of that money back. We are not talking about the sale of a single unit such as a toaster or a television. We are talking about the sales of a platform that is used to generate revenue based on licensing of products to be sold for use on that platform, as well as, the sale of first party software and peripherals.

Use the NES as a decent example. Remember the licensing death lock that Nintendo held? Why were they able to create such a fantastic market leader position? They moved product! They had such a huge installed user base that the profit per console was irrelevant in comparison to their licensing and software profits.

PS3 Sales exceed 10.5 Million as of February 2008
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/playstation-3-sales-hit-105-million

I'm sure Alchy or someone will come up with more recent numbers as I can't be pained to do so right now.

sequent_blender
01-28-2009, 06:21 AM
Existing PS3 base is something like 16.9 million units as per their latest financial advice. If anyone read that advice, you'd see that the PS3 was not one of the major contributors to their losses, rather the strength of the yen and the TV divisions underperformance, although lower than expected sales of the PS3 obviously didn't help.

As for the death of the PlayStation as a brand, I don't think so, but PlayStation as a stand-alone console? It's on the cards for all consoles really.

Convergance occurs in all things, and it almost certainly will bring the death of the console eventually. Nintento saw the writing on the wall and has made itself a non-convergent device but with TV's now coming with internet connections, built-in hard drives and advanced processors, how long will people shell out any money on a separate console? Old mate Ken Kuteragi said in the early days of PS3 development that he'd like PlayStation to be a chipset that comes standard in TVs, DVD players etc. I think this is the way it'll go. PlayStation branded Bravias, HDD recorders and Blu-Ray players, not just Sony devices, but licenced technology. Same thing with phones, they now come with GPS, touch screens etc so it's not a stretch to suggest that the next PSP will simply be a chipset that comes in phones (and again, not just Sony branded phones, potentially). This is my prediction for 2012 though.

Remember that the PS2 made most of it's money for Sony in the last five years of it's life. Their aim for the PS3 is surely to emulate that. No point stopping production now, they've done the hard yards in terms of costs(R&D, marketing etc), now they must simply do their best to ensure that, even at a lower price point, people want to invest in one. I'd argue they're not there yet....

Alchy
01-28-2009, 06:58 AM
Who had thought the name SEGA console manufacturer would ever disappear? Could Sony follow the same path?I was about to compare the way Sony now, and Sega in the mid to late nineties differ, but it's really not worth it. If you can't see the blindingly obvious differences between these corporations then I don't think spelling it out is going to make a difference.


Convergance occurs in all things, and it almost certainly will bring the death of the console eventually.That's what Trip Hawkins said.

sequent_blender
01-28-2009, 07:06 AM
That's what Trip Hawkins said.

Ha ha.... I forgot about that dude. He may have been a loon, but in the long run, I'm sure he'll be proved right. Nintendo know it, so they're playing a different game now while Sony and Microsoft engage in, to coin a Cold War phrase, mutually assured destruction....

In separate news, it's just hit 45.1 degrees celcius (114 fahrenheit) in Adelaide. That's bloody hot. I predict that the air conditioner is going to remain on for the next seven days....

ASSEMbler
01-28-2009, 07:26 AM
If anything sony will reduce licensing fees for blue ray to spur growth.

Convergence is bullshit and will never happen.

I don't want a tv box that does my email, taxes, and plays games.

Alchy
01-28-2009, 07:50 AM
Nintendo know it, so they're playing a different game now while Sony and Microsoft engage in, to coin a Cold War phrase, mutually assured destruction....How, exactly? Nintendo are the main culprit out of the bunch to stick really tightly to first-party software, and it's not like they're putting the Wii into any TVs. Do you think Sony will bundle Wii hardware into Bravias? This console generation is the first in which massively distinct demographic interests have genuinely been evidenced, and you're saying that suddenly everything is going to go Wii and become the singular hardware platform? Excuse my incredulity.

sequent_blender
01-28-2009, 08:43 AM
How, exactly? Nintendo are the main culprit out of the bunch to stick really tightly to first-party software, and it's not like they're putting the Wii into any TVs. Do you think Sony will bundle Wii hardware into Bravias? This console generation is the first in which massively distinct demographic interests have genuinely been evidenced, and you're saying that suddenly everything is going to go Wii and become the singular hardware platform? Excuse my incredulity.

Sorry, you've misinterpreted me. Sony and Microsoft are fighting to become the "standard" platform. Nintendo are betting that people want just a games machine and are happy to use their PC for media duties, as per Assembler's post. Sony and Microsoft are betting that you'll want to do everything through your TV. With that supposition, is it so stupid to suggest that at some stage in the future TVs will come with the technology built in? If one supposes this happens, it's likely to result in a single platform eventually. Now you get Netflicks streamed straight to your TV. Games won't be so far away. That's my prediction. You're free to predict a different future, that's the beauty of stargazing....

Alchy
01-28-2009, 10:23 AM
With that supposition, is it so stupid to suggest that at some stage in the future TVs will come with the technology built in?With due respect - yes. There are major, critical hurdles to such a thing becoming possible, not least all the major players deciding that they'll throw their bid for supremacy out of the ring and settle with the competition. Given that they've opted to spend billions on the current race, and are already doing so for the coming one, the chances of this happening are minimal. Add the idea of TVs costing significantly more for functionality that a minor percentage will take advantage of, and you've got a stillbirth in the making.

Despite identical goals, and far more compelling reasons for industry-wide complicity, a common HD movie standard was not reached until recently. The idea that the console industry would reach such a standard, despite such obvious conflicts of interest, is daft on the face of it; it'd be like car manufacturers all deciding to use the same engine. Sega may now make software for Nintendo, but it'll be a cold day in hell when Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft come together to manufacture a unified hardware standard - especially given the Wii's dominance this generation.

sequent_blender
01-28-2009, 12:11 PM
Okay, point taken. We'll agree to disagree.

I don't believe that the cost of R&D, marketing etc associated with the development of 'next generation' hardware (and software for multiple hardware versions) is sustainable. Something has to give. Will Sony and Microsoft fight to the death, will someone pull out. or will there be some sort of collaboration? It's an interesting prospect whichever way you think it'll go....

z_killemall
01-28-2009, 06:15 PM
I don't believe that the cost of R&D, marketing etc associated with the development of 'next generation' hardware (and software for multiple hardware versions) is sustainable. Something has to give. Will Sony and Microsoft fight to the death, will someone pull out. or will there be some sort of collaboration? It's an interesting prospect whichever way you think it'll go....
You're talking like this generation was about to end, even when the PS3 and 360 were released years ago, this console wars is just starting. The reason for Wii being the dominant in market was the price, it's basically a budget console. But this brings the thing that if a game developer wants to make a game and wants to include the Wii between the consoles it's released has to rewrite the whole thing to fit into Wii's tiny specs, while in the other hand with minor code changes it can make a game for the PS3, 360 and PC.

I felt the Wii as some kind of transition console, but I think the real competition in the following years will be between Sony and Microsoft and I highly doubt some company will pull out. It probably will just end when the next console generation wars begins.

BTW, there's no way you'll see consoles integrated on TVs anytime soon. Besides all standards-related issues, this would mean TV prices would climb up importantly (think about the costs of including a current-gen chipset with ALL the features of the console in the chipset), console portability would be totally lost (lots of people don't use their consoles in just one TV), if your TV died you'd have to change your console and movie player too!

Martin
01-29-2009, 12:16 AM
If anything sony will reduce licensing fees for blue ray to spur growth.

Convergence is bullshit and will never happen.

I don't want a tv box that does my email, taxes, and plays games.

Convergence on phones is even more bullshit. They'd need to make a phone that is a PSP, not licence out a chip. There's a reason Apple have locked down the iPhone so well.

sequent_blender
01-29-2009, 01:19 AM
BTW, there's no way you'll see consoles integrated on TVs anytime soon. Besides all standards-related issues, this would mean TV prices would climb up importantly (think about the costs of including a current-gen chipset with ALL the features of the console in the chipset), console portability would be totally lost (lots of people don't use their consoles in just one TV), if your TV died you'd have to change your console and movie player too!

Ah, but it's not just TV's that the chipset is incorporated into, it's DVD / Blu-Ray players, CD players, TVs, HDD recorders, Set-top boxes etc etc. I'd also argue that, without the costs of separate packaging and distribution plus some parts commonality (power supplies, ethernet connections, USB, HDD etc), the costs of incorporating console hardware into other products is not over-the-top as a percentage of the costs associated with buying TV's or blu-ray players or other AV equipment. Portability of the console is not a concern, because whatever TV you used would incorporate the console functionality. Just log in and your profile, games, media etc is already there. And all with the power of distributed computing (for which 'Life' on PS3 is simply an experiment), all those processors in TVs and AV accessories just waiting to be used by the connected community.... Mwwa ha ha ha ha (evil laugh).

Anyway, enough bagging my 2012 prediction, make up your own so we can judge yours.....

Dave.

Gamesreview
01-29-2009, 02:18 AM
The man has a point, though.

I foresee Sony taking a huge dump. The PS3 was the only profitable part in Sony's bag in 2008. So, either the Japanese government will save their asses or they take a dive for the worse. No price cut will save their asses. And if they now make 50$ per machine......a donkey can do the math after a price cut. Of course in retro spect of the 2.9 billion $ loss for 2008.


Ah, but it's not just TV's that the chipset is incorporated into, it's DVD / Blu-Ray players, CD players, TVs, HDD recorders, Set-top boxes etc etc. I'd also argue that, without the costs of separate packaging and distribution plus some parts commonality (power supplies, ethernet connections, USB, HDD etc), the costs of incorporating console hardware into other products is not over-the-top as a percentage of the costs associated with buying TV's or blu-ray players or other AV equipment. Portability of the console is not a concern, because whatever TV you used would incorporate the console functionality. Just log in and your profile, games, media etc is already there. And all with the power of distributed computing (for which 'Life' on PS3 is simply an experiment), all those processors in TVs and AV accessories just waiting to be used by the connected community.... Mwwa ha ha ha ha (evil laugh).

Anyway, enough bagging my 2012 prediction, make up your own so we can judge yours.....

Dave.

z_killemall
01-29-2009, 03:12 AM
Anyway, enough bagging my 2012 prediction, make up your own so we can judge yours.....

Dave.
I don't see huge changes for that moment, I think things will be mostly like now, the only things I see possible to happen are Nintendo releasing a new, more powerful console to compete with the 360 and the PS3, or maybe multiplayer gaming between consoles in non-exclusive games. Call me an optimist, but I don't see any company leaving the market for this generation.

jonwil
01-29-2009, 06:09 AM
I am sure that if Sony decided they would make money doing so, producing the "PSPPhone" by Sony Erricson would be doable. How good a device with the PSP form factor would work as a phone is another matter.

Gamesreview
01-29-2009, 07:53 PM
Nintendo will not relase a new console, but some add ons in the near future such as a harddrive etc. The new console will take 1.5 year longer.


I don't see huge changes for that moment, I think things will be mostly like now, the only things I see possible to happen are Nintendo releasing a new, more powerful console to compete with the 360 and the PS3, or maybe multiplayer gaming between consoles in non-exclusive games. Call me an optimist, but I don't see any company leaving the market for this generation.

Gamesreview
01-29-2009, 07:54 PM
People seem to forget that phones are deemed smart by consumers if they are small. This goes in against the very nature of handhelds, Big compared to the average cell. I don't see this happening.


I am sure that if Sony decided they would make money doing so, producing the "PSPPhone" by Sony Erricson would be doable. How good a device with the PSP form factor would work as a phone is another matter.

ServiceGames
01-29-2009, 08:03 PM
I am now convinced that Gamesreview is a random sentence generating computer program that has been instructed to infiltrate Assemblergames.

The current generation PSP seems like a bad candidate for integration into cellphone technology. The need for a UMD drive alone destroys its chances of that. Perhaps a next generation PSP on a Chip could be integrated into a phone and allow downloadable content and memory stick based games. I doubt that this is very likely either, but a much more realistic idea.

z_killemall
01-29-2009, 10:02 PM
I am now convinced that Gamesreview is a random sentence generating computer program that has been instructed to infiltrate Assemblergames.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Damn you ServiceGames, for some reason I couldn't stop laughing with that comment...

Hawanja
02-08-2009, 01:40 AM
Sorry, you've misinterpreted me. Sony and Microsoft are fighting to become the "standard" platform. Nintendo are betting that people want just a games machine and are happy to use their PC for media duties, as per Assembler's post. Sony and Microsoft are betting that you'll want to do everything through your TV. With that supposition, is it so stupid to suggest that at some stage in the future TVs will come with the technology built in? If one supposes this happens, it's likely to result in a single platform eventually. Now you get Netflicks streamed straight to your TV. Games won't be so far away. That's my prediction. You're free to predict a different future, that's the beauty of stargazing....

What I see happening is your the PC taking the place of the TV entertainment center. We may see devices that do what you say but usually such things remain oddities.

sequent_blender
02-08-2009, 02:47 AM
Actually, I don't want to rekindle my prediction-bashing, but David Reeves (SCEE) was interviewed by Eurogamer last week, and threw up a few little tidbits. Number 1 was that they have no plans for any gaming device with a Sim Card, but the second was as below:

Eurogamer: Would Sony ever consider licensing out the PS3 technology? Could we see a Sony laptop or Blu-ray player, or even a machine manufactured by another company, which plays PS3 games?
David Reeves: I wouldn't rule it out, but I haven't thought of it myself. We don't have any plans to do that.

Reference: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/sonys-david-reeves-interview-january2009?page=2

Hmmmm....

ave
02-08-2009, 06:54 PM
They did it before with the PSX, so its at least possible. But actually I don't quite think they would put an expensive technology like the PS3's into another machine when the PS3 itself isn't selling so brilliantly.

Parris
02-08-2009, 11:47 PM
They did it before with the PSX, so its at least possible. But actually I don't quite think they would put an expensive technology like the PS3's into another machine when the PS3 itself isn't selling so brilliantly.

That's interesting as I'd have thought the opposite was potentially more plausible as it might generate another revenue string.

However, I would also be surprised to see Sony doing anything like that.

(One comment cancels out the other lol)

I am genuinely interested in what you and S_Blender mentioned.

Timos
02-10-2009, 09:59 PM
Hmm, i expect a PS3 price drop, due to the fact that Sony will produce a 45nm processor which means lower manufacturing costs.

ASSEMbler
02-11-2009, 10:32 AM
I predict that PS4 will be stupidly easy to program for
and come with training wheels + nanny for every programmer.

Skaarg
02-11-2009, 07:13 PM
I'm predicting this year we'll get 5 new screenshots of Duke Nukem Forever... I can still hope can't I? =P

As a actually feasible prediction. I'm betting we'll get a new Zelda game announced sometime this year, PS3 prices will drop more, and more crappy plastic accessories will come out for the Wii.

Michael
02-13-2009, 05:01 AM
Wii fit will start showing up at yardsales really cheap...

Drew
02-14-2009, 01:39 AM
I'm predicting this year we'll get 5 new screenshots of Duke Nukem Forever... I can still hope can't I? =P
You know, I'm beginning to think that Duke Nukem Forever is actually just a social performance by 3D Realms. It's just a test to see how long you can hype something up without actually delivering anything of substance.

My predictions for 2009 is that the Wii will continue to release crap games, the PS3's price will drop and sales will increase, and the 360 will continue to flourish.

Shadowlayer
02-20-2009, 08:21 AM
No price changes for 2009, the game industry is the only one thats not in the red, and it continues to grow beyond expectations.

Considering sony is loosing money on most divisions, the idea of making a cheaper PS3 even when demand has been stable is preposterous.

About convergence, it depends. A low-powered console mostly for casual gaming like the wii could become a part of most TVs and DVDs, but then again the increasing processing power of those devices coupled with an OS could be a feasible game platform on it's own.

But as long as there's enough demand for state-of-the-art games there's gonna be high-spec consoles, and those cant be integrated into common electronics simply because the cost would be too high

BBaileys
03-01-2009, 08:49 AM
I believe that 2009 is going to continue the trend of digital delivery of movies in HD to outpace the acceptance of Blue Ray. Sony took a big gamble on Blue Ray and it will end up being the albatross for the company. The other branches of the company will continue to struggle as the death of the recording industry increases in it's rate. Artists will continue to leave the big record companies and strike out on their own. I feel that 2009 will be a year of Indy development. There will be a bigger market for low budget games that are able to capture the non-traditional market. The struggling economy will create a market for new companies and continue to cause hardship on established companies who are unwilling or unable to change their business model to compete with smaller, younger, and more aggressive companies.

Arkanoid
03-06-2009, 12:59 AM
I expect announcements from MS and Nintendo about the next generation of consoles. Not release dates or names but just an announcement that they are in testing. Sony still is trying to hold on to that 10 year plan with the PS3 so nothing will come out of them this year. Atari will announce a Flashback 3 system that plays 2600, 5200, and 7800 carts. Sega will drop yet another franchise that could have made them money if they would just listen to the goddamned fans!!!

skavenger216
03-06-2009, 02:31 AM
I predict that PS4 will be stupidly easy to program for
and come with training wheels + nanny for every programmer.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

darkportrait
03-13-2009, 04:46 AM
Sega will make a come back and make a new system... wait they already did...

ServiceGames
03-25-2009, 05:01 AM
Sony will release this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyVh1_vWYQ&feature=channel

concept
03-25-2009, 05:07 AM
I predict that if it turns out to be real OnLive will be the big gaming story of 2009

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22260

VMS
03-27-2009, 10:55 AM
I predict that TEAM ICO's new game will be revealed at TGS in the autumn, not before, and not at E3.

I predict that GT5 (full version) will be released in JP and USA in time for X-Mas 2009.

I predict that joysticks will remain scarce for the rest of the year.


It'll be fun to revisit this thread at the end of the year!

Mugi
03-27-2009, 04:32 PM
i predict that the ps3 gets hacked and after it does, sony releases new firmware that will instantly null the mod :P

wii2 will also be announced in a while and 360 will continue to struggle with failing hardware :(

Twimfy
03-29-2009, 09:56 AM
I predict that some pretentious artist will use the red ring of death on 10,000 360's to make some shit sculpture attacking consumerism and the state of the global economy.

Wanker.

sayin999
03-30-2009, 08:04 AM
Honestly I think Sony's big mistake was being so desperate for blu ray to win that they used it as the format for the system so they could also sell it as a blu ray player. Why does every successful game company always screw up really big down the line?

Nintendo- started with 64 then gc, luckily wii and ds were successful and saved them.

Sega- genesis was a huge sucess, then saturn failed in U.S. europe. Dreamcast while critically successful, but financially a failure and lead to their hardware demise. Question is which pattern is sony following?

Gaming
03-30-2009, 12:11 PM
The Nintendo Wii will release more games for an older audience perhaps? Playstation 3 will remove Bluray and price drop, even though I think the price for a PS3 isn't to demanding since it comes with free online and it has a good lirbary that isn't acknowledged enough.

Aypok
03-30-2009, 02:42 PM
Playstation 3 will remove Bluray and price drop

I recently read an article where one of those economic analyst type people spouted the same line.

The problem with that idea is that all PS3 games (or at least all of the ones I own - about two dozen) are on Blu-Ray discs. Think about it: they'd be releasing a PS3 which can't run PS3 game discs...

Although I guess it could work if they made the games available via the PSN, but I can't see them getting away with calling it a PS3.