CartDev rev.b software/manuals [Archive] - ASSEMblergames.com

WarHampster

10-31-2008, 06:35 AM

I've got a CartDev rev.b that I'm trying to get working, and from digging through some old posts I've found a lot of references to "Antime's site", which is now dead. Apparently that site had some CartDev related manuals and software... which would be very helpful to me. Can someone link me to these files?

If I'm missing something here just let me know :P

dj898

10-31-2008, 10:24 AM

it was mostly documents Sega released at that time plus other stuff from memory...
maybe someone hopefully d/l the content...

besides you still need software and that you will have to source as well - don't think anyone have the complete set though retro should be close enough...
plus you may need the mirage unit and possibly PC connected to the whole setup~ ???

WarHampster

10-31-2008, 03:23 PM

Well, I've heard that he had a program that sent COFF files directly to the CartDev... that would be very helpful. As for a mirage unit, I'm pretty sure that they're optional, and all you need to connect to a PC is a slightly modified scsi cable.

dj898

10-31-2008, 04:50 PM

don't forget you will need the PC that was used for the dev back then AND software - I'm pretty sure those weren't Window XP compatible... ^ ^

WarHampster

10-31-2008, 11:18 PM

I don't think that running the software will be a problem... but I won't know until I actually have said software. Surely someone here has what I need?

Dr.Wily

11-06-2008, 11:59 AM

plus you may need the mirage unit

What that ?

dj898

11-06-2008, 04:32 PM

HDD to emulate the CD drive.
handy when you think about.
no need to burn then expensive CD-R with each build... ^ ^

Segafreak_NL

11-06-2008, 05:37 PM

Did you buy that unit from Ebay roughly a month ago?

WarHampster

11-07-2008, 12:18 AM

Yeah... I'm still looking for the software/ manuals.

Dr.Wily

11-07-2008, 03:29 PM

HDD to emulate the CD drive.
handy when you think about.
no need to burn then expensive CD-R with each build... ^ ^

Ok thank :icon_bigg

have you some pics of this unit ?

WarHampster

11-08-2008, 01:04 AM

Are you looking for pictures of the mirage or my cart dev?

klarth

11-08-2008, 06:38 PM

give me a PM if youre still looking for the files. I downloaded everything off of Antime's site on 3/26/06, so I probably have most of what you want

WarHampster

11-08-2008, 07:50 PM

PM sent :)

Dr.Wily

11-10-2008, 09:58 AM

Are you looking for pictures of the mirage or my cart dev?

Yes :icon_bigg

Taucias

11-13-2008, 03:49 AM

Antime's site: http://web.archive.org/web/20061012104724/www.antime.org/sega/

EPR's saturn docs: http://web.archive.org/web/20061017154026/www.classicgaming.com/epr/saturn.htm < Check out the SOA document. Very good info to get you going.

WarHampster

11-13-2008, 04:41 AM

Awesome, thank you.

ASSEMbler

11-17-2008, 04:24 AM

This stuff is old enough I don't think we have any problems hosting it.

Taucias

11-17-2008, 04:46 AM

Also, I recommend checking out http://cgfm2.emuviews.com/, scroll down to the news post for 6/18. He has a programmer for the Pro Action Reply cart with a PCB board allowing USB connection to a PC instead of the old ISA card. Also code examples!

WarHampster

11-17-2008, 05:09 AM

Thanks again, to bad the Saturn information section of his site is dead.

Taucias

11-18-2008, 02:17 AM

Yeah... but did you see the part I meant? It is on the main page...

WarHampster

11-18-2008, 02:25 AM

I found it ;)

On another note, heres a new question: does anyone have some information on the cable that was used to connect a Mirage unit with a modified production saturn? More specifically, the cable that connects the CD Emulator port on the modified saturn to the CD Interface port on the Mirage. Is this some kind of SCSI cable, or is it custom? Also, I'm looking for information on the type of hard drive used by the Mirage units.

retro

11-27-2008, 08:15 AM

It is SCSI, it is very rare. Your chances of finding one are very slim. You don't need it, though!!

The Mirage used SCSI hard drives ;-)

I wish people would stop saying the files came from Antime's site. All he did was mirror the files from the Sega DTS website.

Oh, and you don't NEED an old PC, just one that'll run the software. That means it'll probably need NT or 95, but a modern PC will still do that! ;-) Likewise, you don't NEED a Mirage. It is a CD emulator, used to save money because CD-Rs were so expensive back then. They aren't now - use CD-Rs!

WarHampster

11-30-2008, 12:07 AM

Thanks for the reply, all good information :)

selgus

02-12-2009, 06:06 AM

I do have a bunch of the old Sega DTS CD-ROMS plus all the Saturn manuals (though they are hard-copy, not electronic). If there was something specific that people were looking for, I could search through what I still have.

I was looking through the SGL source code just the other day for kicks. :icon_bigg
--Selgus

retro

02-12-2009, 12:39 PM

Hmm. I don't think I've ever heard "Saturn code" and "for fun" used in the same sentence before :110:

I think all of the Sega manuals are widely available, as are the Psy-Q and Mirage manuals. The only ones people might find a bit trickier are the CartDev ones.

There was a copy of the DTS CD doing the rounds a while back, although it isn't so widely available now, it would seem.

WarHampster

02-12-2009, 04:50 PM

selgus

02-13-2009, 05:32 AM

Cool... do you have anything obscure/ interesting?
Define "obscure" and "interesting"? :icon_bigg

I have all the standard dev stuff, the source to SGL wasn't readily available back when I was developing on the Saturn, so I got special authorization to get access to it. That might be interesting to some, if you are into SH2 assembly.

For Shaq-32, I did a whole sprite based engine at first, then a polygonal one first based on SGL, then later on my own stuff that would use both SH processors at once. Though not sure if I still have that on any of my archives any longer.

Plus there are the DTS CDs...

I still do have my Saturn Key disc, for booting CD-Rs.
--Selgus

WarHampster

02-14-2009, 08:49 AM

I'm still looking for a system disc (I'm assuming thats the key disc you mentioned)... would you be interested in selling?

retro

02-14-2009, 11:22 AM

Key disc is what Sega's internal documentation called it, yes.

selgus

02-14-2009, 05:58 PM

I'm still looking for a system disc (I'm assuming thats the key disc you mentioned)... would you be interested in selling?
This is what I was talking about:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5898/scalesaturnym1.th.jpg
Well, I really don't use the CD-ROM these days, did you want it for a specific use, or collecting?
--Selgus

retro

02-14-2009, 07:57 PM

Ah, another SOA disc turns up - cool!

WarHampster

02-14-2009, 10:20 PM

Well, I really don't use the CD-ROM these days, did you want it for a specific use, or collecting?
I want one for the purpose it was intended for - booting burned CD-Rs.

Shoot me a PM if you're interested in selling it.

TmEE

02-15-2009, 10:44 PM

Someone who is actually going to make something for the Saturn would probably benefit more from that CD...

I'm going for cart route when I'm going to mess with Saturn so its not too much of interest for me, and I'm broke anyway :P