View Full Version : Xbox 360 Transplant
Xenon.7
10-04-2008, 11:17 PM
Recently I've had strong feelings of wanting to quit my research over Xbox, Devs, and Halo overall, and was very close to until a good friend of mine(being as awesome as he is) offered me a broken devkit.
The mobo seems to have a burn mark he said, and that would be the cause of problem. EDIT: Actually the previous owner said the burnmark did not affect it, and it was infact a CPU problem.
So I was wondering, what all would need to be transplanted from the dev into a retail console for it to function as a dev?
What i've noted so far is:
-The CPU/NAND
-The DVD Drive(as the NAND is tied to it).
Would it work with just that or would more need to be done?
EDIT: Nevermind, I know now, and find it's not worth it.
I say it is worth it...
The only thing you need is to transplant the nand and the CPU between the same model of board. I heard from a local friend that does RROD repairs by reballing GPU's that they did experiments with switching the GPU's from other boards and they weren't always sucsesful.
If its too expensive I wouldn't try it as it may not be worth your money
neull
10-05-2008, 07:51 AM
I don't know..It would be a huge undertaking to do this without the tools required, if I were you, you could ask around on xboxhacker and see if anyone has had any success there.
ASSEMbler
10-05-2008, 08:19 AM
For an experienced hot air reworker, this would be easy stuff.
I would just ask around.
ShadowGuy
10-05-2008, 10:20 AM
I don't see how it's not worth it you can buy a 'broken' box off ebay for cheap. Typically a reballing will guarantee you a fixed box, so not only will you be fixing it you'll turn it over to dev mode as well. The DVD also is not tied to a dev box you can use any (or none at all).
Just do a quick google search for reballing services in your area, it shouldn't cost very much at all. Hell try these guys out http://www.360-pros.com (http://www.360-pros.com/) they specialize just in 360's.
ConsoleFun
10-05-2008, 08:46 PM
The DVD also is not tied to a dev box you can use any (or none at all).
The DVD is still tied to the box. It's just that the key normally is not needed on dev boxes. This is how it works:
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=265585&postcount=10
The DVD is still tied to the box. It's just that the key normally is not needed on dev boxes. This is how it works:
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=265585&postcount=10
I thought a reecovery would over write the dvd key, or atleast some of them did
ShadowGuy
10-05-2008, 11:00 PM
I ran my xedk without a drive for two weeks after my first drive died during a bad flash. When I got my new drive it worked by simply plugging it in.
Yes but can you run retial games in the older flash with boot retail?
ShadowGuy
10-06-2008, 01:31 AM
Ahhh I see what you are saying now... I was on a different page, sorry.
Xenon.7
10-06-2008, 02:28 AM
For anyone thats interested I was told this is what is needed to be transplanted and is why I said I'd rather not:
CPU, NAND, DVD, SMC Chip, South Bridget.
If anyone knows anyone that could do this, tell me here, otherwise I'll just have to go to plan 2.
Pikkon
10-06-2008, 04:01 AM
Its way to much work to even get it working if it could be done.
If the retail 360 ever gets fully cracked then I could see a easy way of converting a retail to dev.
Xenon.7
10-06-2008, 03:27 PM
Yeah its not worth it to me.
The previous owner said the burnmark wasn't the source of the problem as the dev would receive power, but it's CPU would overload and cause it to either freeze or turn off. I heard the xclamp method or reballing could fix this, but I'd rather not open it, maybe others will know what they're doing better.
Pikkon
10-06-2008, 06:02 PM
Well the xclamp method is more of a temporary fix.
Reballing is the best solution.
Xenon.7
10-07-2008, 06:49 AM
I'm aware, but thanks. ;P
tmbinc
10-07-2008, 03:41 PM
CPU and Flash. Nothing more. Still I would consider this as "enough to be not useful", other than in the name of science.
ShadowGuy
10-07-2008, 05:15 PM
So if I got a cheap zephyr and transplanted my xenons CPU and flash I could have HDMI? Would it still work with a sidecar (using the 213w PS)? This might be a dumb question but where is the 'flash' and what does it look like?
neull
10-07-2008, 11:31 PM
Would it still work with a sidecar (using the 213w PS)? This might be a dumb question but where is the 'flash' and what does it look like?
1. It won't work with the sidecar, unless you add the missing connectors to the board, other that that, the sidecar should power up, and work.
2. The flash is a chip on the motherboard, rectangular in shape, and if i remember correctly, it's beside of the GPU near the metal cage, and close to the front of the board.
So if I got a cheap zephyr and transplanted my xenons CPU and flash I could have HDMI? Would it still work with a sidecar (using the 213w PS)? This might be a dumb question but where is the 'flash' and what does it look like?
Don't count on it... I have the means to do the test at local game shop, but its simply TOO risky and besides they charge like 60 bucks for any service
Nand is small black chip around where the dvd drive is, its not the big silver one thats by the ethernet port.
If I had a spare dead devkit I might as well give it a try
ASSEMbler
10-08-2008, 06:18 AM
If the cpu is shot, it's not gonna work.
Sell it for parts, no point in wasting another 360 trying.
Xenon.7
10-08-2008, 06:34 AM
I don't get what you mean by "shot", but if you mean dead I really doubt it is. Seeing as if I go through with this itll be unsoldiered eitherway, when reattached I'll just resoldier it back on, which would hopefully and most likely fix the issues it has.
EDIT: the previous owner said the CPU just had an overheating problem so al should be good if I did transplant, though I think I'll just sell it off.
MrHard
11-04-2008, 06:02 PM
Xenon.7 any news?
Holy Ownage
11-17-2008, 02:42 AM
Anybody know if he continued doing so?
He seems to be in-active.
lllsondowlll
12-30-2008, 04:27 PM
I was the first person to really dip into this, and if I recall correctly many people told me it was a stupid idea, then turned right around and asked the same question when their xbox went teets up :P
Anyway, the conclusion to this is quite simple.
The pinouts of the nand and the cpu are different with traditional retail mobo's however I have recently decided to dip back into this as well this is the newest topic here and with the new jasper motherboard the pinouts are the same! anyway, should work with a steady hand.
Case closed.
Do you really have any idea what you are talking about? The 65nm cpu and gpu are completely different in size (physical size on the motherboard) how on earth do you think they would work? Unless you had a falcon devkit, which I doubt many people have.
Also, I compared motherboard revisions between my kit and an old launch console I have and the motherboard revisions were identical. If I were to swap the cpu and nand they would work.
The real question is whether a zephyr and a Xenon have the same CPU bracket.
Taucias
01-03-2009, 10:33 PM
How on earth are you going to wire it? Then, in doing so, how will you cool the chip?
People have already found that unmounting the gpu/cpu and re balling is an effective way to solve the ring of death, the only problem is you need very specialized tools to do it correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQeanpujmuM&feature=related
The main question no one can seem to answer is that if this works with different motherboard types. We do know however this works with identical motherboard revisions and that swaping the cpu with the nand does make the console boot.
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