The Propeller arena thread

[Paulo]

Are we still not allowed to talk about it??? :smt040

[AntiPasta]

well this board isnt hosted at roarvgm anymore is it? I dont know what the current policy on such discussions is, though. I'll ask Assembler about it.

[halo]

well this board isnt hosted at roarvgm anymore is it? I dont know what the current policy on such discussions is, though. I'll ask Assembler about it.

The board was never hosted by Daemon/RoarVGM... it used to be hosted by EZBoard. However since the Assembler site is hosted by RoarVGM and it's part of Daemon's hosting contract that links to warez should not be allowed I would say that disussion shouldn't be allowed, unfortunately. Nothing's changed

[LeGIt]

:snipe: Discussion of warez/roms/isos is allowed, but linking directly to such material is forbidden :smt027

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Ok, so we are allowed to talk about Prop Arena then??

As far as i know, Belokk has the GDR. It's been ripped but is not booting on a DC. Seems to be some sort of copy protection on the GDR that needs cracking.

And tht's it. Until its cracked, no PA. Oh well, give it time....

[ASSEMbler]

You can talk all you want about it. ALLUSION to sale will be erased. All other material, screens, vids, etc are great. You MUST follow the rules below.
:snipe:
So:

1.) You can talk all you want about Propeller Arena, and post as many videos and screen shots as you like. :smt023
MP3s are not allowed. :smt009

2.) You cannot in any way shape or form sell PA. :smt027
The only sale discussion allowed must be in DEBATE form and must be NOTED as such! This means philosophical discussion only.
"Joe sells PA and it's great" = NONO :smt009
"Debating if it's wrong for someone to sell PA" =OK :smt023

3.) You cannot in any way direct link to a FREE distro copy of PA. This means less than three clicks to file. :smt009
You can mention: IRC channels and non warez web sites. (see below) :smt023

4.) The two click rule must be in effect. You must have to click more that two times before any link reaches any prohibited material. :smt024
This way any linked materials are the sole responsibility of the other page. No mention of the content can be made!
"Click here to get to PA" = NO :smt027
"Go to this page, they have some VERY interesting info" = YES :smt023

5.) Discussions on encryptions belong in the dev area.
"Cracking WAREZ"=NO! :smt009 :smt009 :smt009
"Decompiling a program"=Yes :smt023 :smt023

[Yakumo]

OK guys, Assembler has set out the rules so let's follow them and have us a great time :smt027

Yakumo

[bendermike]

you can go to http://www.d-central.com (in the forum section)

don't worry there is no link to the game lol

but belokk talk about advancements for propeller arena ! :smt040

[Anonymous]

As mentioned before on my old post (when the PA problem started)

*Talking* about PA is fine.
Videos, screenshots, documenting the game is fine.


BUT


Selling, distributing, linking to (no matter if it's 1 or 300 links away - if it ends up giving one access to illegal material, it's a no-no).

Because like... let's suppose someone made a TRIPOD page that said "CLICK HERE FOR L33T INFO". This page then linked to a geocities page that said "CONTINUE CLICKING! L33T INFO IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER!" that then linked to another page with illegal content.

That would still be no good, don't you guys agree?

I know some people will talk crap about me, but trust me, I'm just trying to avoid trouble in the future.

Noone here would want my site, or ASSEMbler's site to die because of a game!

Here's a WORKAROUND though;

If discussing / trading files / etc was done ELSEWHERE with no proper control (such as IRC), then it'd be fine.

I'll even go a little further.

If ASSEMbler agrees, I'll get bots and set up #assemblergames on EFNET for you guys. You can use the channel freely for talking about obscure consoles, games, computers, prototypes, sharing files with other friends in the community, etc etc.


Opinions?

- Daemon

[ASSEMbler]

You can go from my site to google , and then download any malware you want. Having it 3 or more clicks away is the only real way to distance yourself. Face it, we're less than three clicks away from ANYTHING.

I mean, not having any links is really hard to screen.

[s0urce]

How far is belokk?Don't feel the need to register there,but I heard there were some problems regarding to protection.

[Paulo]

How far is belokk?Don't feel the need to register there,but I heard there were some problems regarding to protection.



Registered he dint say last post ( i dint check when it was tho! doh!) he said the games ripped and all he has to do is make it boot and he was gonna have a crack at it that night... :smt027

[hokman]

assembler told people not to say: "Click here to get PA."
DOes this mean we can find PA somewhere? Does this mean PA is ripped by someone other than the people here? Maybe the internet is small and our only hope is the people here ripping it.

[Keva]

u winder if the inet mode is working i herd it uses a new method of direct connecting to the other dcs ... this only work if you hav e a bba i suppose but if this is true its wicked

[wombat]

assembler told people not to say: "Click here to get PA."
DOes this mean we can find PA somewhere? Does this mean PA is ripped by someone other than the people here? Maybe the internet is small and our only hope is the people here ripping it.
If you just took some time and actually read the topic. Then you would have discovered that 'belokk' is working hard on it... (some problems with booting it)

@Keva, it would be interesting if the game could be linked (LAN).. de online functions are all there! LAN/Custom IP etc. So maybe will see in the future an homebrew server!

[AntiPasta]

If ASSEMbler agrees, I'll get bots and set up #assemblergames on EFNET for you guys. You can use the channel freely for talking about obscure consoles, games, computers, prototypes, sharing files with other friends in the community, etc etc.


Thanks for the offer, there already is an IRC channel though (#assemblerirc on Undernet) which is actually quite busy nowadays :D
It's been around for months but most of the time there were like 3 people :(

[ServiceGames]

Check out this link for a little more info.
http://tinyurl.com/3hb2w

[Calpis]

I don't want be annoying or sound impatient, I'm not terribly even interested in this but this is dragging on too long, it feels like a tease. Whats exactly taking so long? I'm just pointing this out, don't take offense anyone.

With a BBA ripping ANY DC game (GD-Rs are no different) is a 1-2 day job, at least for me and I'm no scener. This includes downsampling audio/video and selfbooting etc. With a "coders cable" I wouldn't expect more than a week or two because of the excruciating speeds, depending on the integrity of the ripped data. Wish I had something to rip for the group :)

[Lostuse]

I don't want be annoying or sound impatient, I'm not terribly even interested in this but this is dragging on too long, it feels like a tease. Whats exactly taking so long? I'm just pointing this out, don't take offense anyone.

With a BBA ripping ANY DC game (GD-Rs are no different) is a 1-2 day job, at least for me and I'm no scener. This includes downsampling audio/video and selfbooting etc. With a "coders cable" I wouldn't expect more than a week or two because of the excruciating speeds, depending on the integrity of the ripped data. Wish I had something to rip for the group :)
uh no alot of dc games have forms of protection that need to be cracked...

[Calpis]

May I have an example of what exactly needs to be "cracked"? LBA stuffs? I've ripped a few (early) games without any trouble and I've never encountered or heard of protection, what are you talking about?

[Yakumo]

Kyuusaku, you probably ripped full versions of games (bad boy :smt011 )but some GDrecordable discs have protection to stop them from being ripped. Anyway, the game has been ripped but needs PAL & NTSC-J support. That's why it's not released yet.

Yakumo

[Calpis]

Ahh so its going to be trained? Hmm I'm interested in this protection. Truthfully, I don't own a single DC backup/copy whatever as of now :) Play and give away.

[Lostuse]

Kyuusaku, you probably ripped full versions of games (bad boy :smt011 )but some GDrecordable discs have protection to stop them from being ripped. Anyway, the game has been ripped but needs PAL & NTSC-J support. That's why it's not released yet.

Yakumo
no it doesnt boot at all as of right now...

[AntiPasta]

Anyway, the game has been ripped but needs PAL & NTSC-J support.

I didnt know there was an actual difference in US and Japanese NTSC, or at least not as far as the DC is concerned... well, as long as my Japanese machines work well on my NTSC-supporting PAL TV's :smt033

[Yakumo]

no it doesnt boot at all as of right now...

Really? I remember being told that it works for US Dreamcasts but not Japanese or PAL. Maybe I misread the mail though. I'll ask Belokk about it.


I didnt know there was an actual difference in US and Japanese NTSC,
The output is the same but I meant the country code.

Yakumo

[Lostuse]

i got my info from belokk lol hes an admin at a site i am too :-P

[Yakumo]

i got my info from belokk lol hes an admin at a site i am too :-P

fair enough. Can't get better than the source :smt024

Yakumo

[bendermike]

it would be cool if belokk can talk about his work on propeller arena :smt023

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Ok, so it's been a couple of weeks. Anyone know if there's any new info?? Still not booting? Arrgh. I want!!

[Lostuse]

still not booting

[virtual alan]

:smt022

[bendermike]

well...if it's like pba bowling it will never boot :(

[virtual alan]

I found a 3 min video of P.A. on my PC this afternoon.

If anyone wants a copy I can mail it...but will be a biggish file.

But it may be something that people have already seen or have

[ShadowofBob]

well...if it's like pba bowling it will never boot :(

PBA bowling boots, just only on USA systems. Did anyone ever try it on a modded PAL or JAP Dreamcast?

[Yakumo]

Propeller Arena is coming and guess who's first on the list ? ASSEMbler members :smt023

Yes that's right. Service Games is going to get all of the details but I'm off to bed now since it's 5am. Let's hope he gets the details soon.

It will be heading this way soon !!! I sure hope that from what I've heard that it's true !! If not then I'm a very angry guy but if true I'll be personally Sending Belokk a present :D Oh, musn't forget Service Games too. If it wasn't for him none of this would be happening.

Yakumo

[TheDeathcoaster]

Excellent News! :smt040

[belokk]

news update, seems megalexx has hacked propeller arena, and has gotten it to boot. i won't know until later tonight the full story, but its not bullshit. :D

=belokk=

[Keva]

WEHEY!!!!

i canne wait for this game its gonna rock!!!!

[wombat]

finnaly the game is going to see the day-light :-).... Can't wait to actually play the game WOEEEHOEEEE :smt024
thanks for making it possible megalexx, servicegames & belokk (and everybody who I forgot)

[Sandman16]

I just want to thank all of the people involved in making this game a reality to all the fans of the DC and Sega in general. I sure hope the game is as good as it seems to be.

[kstyle25]

:smt022 tears of joy fall from my eyes....Good job guys!! :smt023

[belokk]

ok i got the working files, and yes

PROPELLER ARENA IS WORKING !!! :D

so i will be sending back a working copy and the gd-r to service games. thanks to all in this joint project

service games,megalexx,dcp, punks8er, neoiv , lostuse and myself :D

=belokk=

[AntiPasta]

0mg t3h w000t!!1111111111 :smt033 :smt040 :smt043 :smt023

Can't wait to play it! :drinkers:

[koolkid13]

ok i got the working files, and yes

PROPELLER ARENA IS WORKING !!! :D

so i will be sending back a working copy and the gd-r to service games. thanks to all in this joint project

service games,megalexx,dcp, punks8er, neoiv , lostuse and myself :D

=belokk=
Umm... YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smt040

[Da1m0n]

Congratulations, you nutballs :D especially Megalexx :smt033

[Keva]

i need to book a day or 2 off school so i can play this :D

[wombat]

I'm still shocked that we can actually play the game within an month (probally). Can't wait till I recieve my copy whoohooo :)

[Da1m0n]

So, Belokk: I understand you're returning the GD-R to ServiceGamer along with the working rip. I assume that ServiceGamer and Yakumo will go from there and organize the whole for-donators release thing? And when that's done, who will decide when the time for the public release is here? I'm just wondering about how everything is scheduled and stuff. Thanks :)

[belokk]

yeah i sent it back last thursday, and i e-mailed him the news about it goign tou in the mail and the tracking #, i haven't heard fomr him yet. but as soon as he gets the disc back then they should start sending them out ot th pople who made a donation. so lets wait to hear fomr service games and yakumo on the status. :D

=belokk=

[koolkid13]

*crosses fingers* I really hope it got through the mail ok!

[Da1m0n]

well I'm sure Belokk would have been smart enough to send it insured and with delivery confirmation and all the good stuff... probably use FedEx and avoid USPS altogether :)

[Yakumo]

Belokk, just got back from my holiday today and sent you a PM regarding the PA release.

Yakumo

[Yakumo]

Thought that you guys may like to see what the final cover for Propeller Arena looks like in it's case next to a legit Dreamcast game. It looks pretty real to me :smt023

http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/pa-covecase5.jpg

I've still got the spine card to make which I'll do on Sunday.

Yakumo

[Alzaire]

Which one are we getting? The one with the Japanese text on the side or the English text?

[Yakumo]

Which one are we getting? The one with the Japanese text on the side or the English text?

The one you will get will have Japanese text and English text on it. All Japanese games are like that. English on one side with Japanese on the other. Not only Dreamcast but Saturn, PlayStation, Mega CD and so on.

Yakumo

[Keva]

where can i donate? also can you ship to the uk?

[Alzaire]

Which one are we getting? The one with the Japanese text on the side or the English text?

The one you will get will have Japanese text and English text on it. All Japanese games are like that. English on one side with Japanese on the other. Not only Dreamcast but Saturn, PlayStation, Mega CD and so on.

Yakumo

Oh yeah, duh. :p I was thinking it was two different versions of the spine area, but I looked at one of my import PS1 games and noticed on the spine area it has the JP text and the other end where it opens has the US text. Just like you said.

[Yakumo]

where can i donate? also can you ship to the uk?

You can get a copy with disc print and covers by donating 20 to 25 US dollars to Service Games Via Paypal using this account - retiredgamer@hotmail.com And yes, he will ship to the UK.

Yakumo

[kstyle25]

Let me get this straight...they're shipping now????

[Yakumo]

They will be shipping this week I belive once Service Games prints out all the covers. He's very busy but trying his best !.

Yakumo

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Competition Time :smt023

Ok, so as with HalfLife and Beats of Rage, some cheeky git is inevitably gonna start selling PA on Ebay, probably with covers you guys made. And we'll report his cheeky monkey ass, so he can become someone's 'shower bitch'.

So, if everyone picks a date starting from 2weeks time (about when PA is gonna be public released?), and if you pick the date that some cheeky git starts selling **Super Rare - PA - DC - L@@K!!!** on Ebay, you win a ltd edition copy of the game. Or some other prize.

What you think, just for a laugh?

[Yakumo]

:smt040 yeah, whuy not. Sounds fun to me. OK, I choose May 20th as the first date.

Yakumo

[Yakumo]

Made the spine card to go with the Japanese style Propeller Arena covers today. Now it looks just like what the original would have been like.

http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/pa-covecase-spine-1.jpg
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/pa-covecase-spine-2.jpg
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/pa-covecase-spine-3.jpg

Yakumo

[Anonymous]

Hey, if servicegames sends the game sealed, perhaps I decide to keep it unopened lol
Excellent work, yakumo ;)

[Anonymous]

Whats the point of keeping it sealed if its just a freaking bootleg?
:smt043 some of you guys

[Greatsaintlouis]

Yakumo, are the spine cards going to be included as part of the packaging? Barring that, is there any way they will be made available for us to download and print out to complete our copies? :smt040

[Yakumo]

No, the spine cards will not be made by Service Games. He has far too much on his plate with doing loads of front, back and CD covers :prayer: I made this one for myself personally. If you'd like to use it then feel free. Here it is along with an English version for those that don't want the Japanese text. The versions pictured below are only 72dpi with High compression. The links below are for the 200dpi versions at 329kb with no compression.
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/propeller-spine-jpn_web.jpghttp://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/propeller-spine-eng_web.jpg

To download the 200dpi versions then click these links.
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/propeller-spine-jpn.jpg

http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/propeller-spine-eng.jpg

Yakumo

[madhatter256]

So um. WHere can I d/l this game?? :prayer: :smt024

[TheDeathcoaster]

Thats jsut fscking Shite! We haven't even recieved our versions yet (or at least I haven't gotten mine) and its already up for all those fucktangles to download and sell off on Ebay.

I pick my ebay date for the competition as later today :smt011

[virtual alan]

Sorry guys, have to edit this post. Remember Keven's rules regarding this game or any ISO.


4.) The two click rule must be in effect. You must have to click more that two times before any link reaches any prohibited material. :smt024
This way any linked materials are the sole responsibility of the other page. No mention of the content can be made!
"Click here to get to PA" = NO :smt027
"Go to this page, they have some VERY interesting info" = YES :smt023


Don`t flame me for this and I hope it doesn`t get anyone into trouble...

From a newsgroup


"spotted on ************

you`ll need a bittorrent client to download it - i`d recommend Azureus
which can be found on sourceforge (open source software site)"

Submitted by Da1mon

Please feel free to delete this Moderators if you feel you should

Moved from new topic
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FULL ON MARIO COLLECTOR

[Tachikoma]

I dont think posting a link to supernova is technically against the rules, but I deleted your pt.2 thread seeing as you posted the same thing here.

[SilverBolt]

It's on supernova indeed, but there has been some debate if this is the real thing or just some fake release, i've been trying to download it to see if it's the real thing but the speeds on this torrent is verry low.

This could be seen as a good thing because it would mean that it will takes days before the first people have the full download so that the people who donated to teh release will have their copy's before the rest of the world.

http://www.sou.edu/~stlouisc/PAleak.gif

[Anonymous]

:smt011
now im really pissed off.....

[Da1m0n]

I'm afraid it's real... Belokk and Lostuse discovered that someone was leaking it out on an IRC channel... they decided to immediately go ahead with the public release in order to stop some lame unauthorized copy with no proper NFO file etc. from spreading much further. That means I was given green light - no, I was practically shouted at :P - to put it up on suprnova (as I also have had a copy for a few days now, kind of a long story). In the meantime they're releasing the proper multipart rar archive via FXP and IRC and presumably newsgroups. (I released the exact same .cdi image but packed into a single .rar, plus .nfo file)
None of us really like it, but when the more or less inevitable happened, we figured: which is better? An early public release, or an unauthorized leaked copy spreading around like wildfire, with someone taking all the credits for themselves? :smt009

[Greatsaintlouis]

Silverbolt, you are pirating my image without giving credit!! :smt043

After noticing that Da1m0n posted before I got finished, I should state that the brunt of my infinite anger that rages with the fire of a thousand red giant stars is directed towards those who saw fit to leak the unauthorized copies.

I have to say that I am just completely infuriated over some peoples' greed and lack of consideration. Granted, Service Games does not own the content of the PA GD, however, he was under no obligation to release it to the community at all, but he did, albeit under certain "terms". These terms were simple. To people that helped offset the cost monetarily, they would recieve the chance to play the game before the leechers, and would recieve professionally made cases along with it. The general public would not be denied the release of this game, they would just have to wait a few weeks after the people who actually deserved the game got theirs.

I guess I don't see what the real problem is here.

The way I see it, there are some people who are greedy and self-centered enough to be saying, "You know what, @#$% this crap, and @#$% you chumps who released this game, we think we deserve this so lets release it to everyone right now! And screw you chumps that paid for the covers too, we don't care if you should have this before us, we want it now."

So it really comes down to some people being too greedy to wait 3 more weeks, thinking they are entitled to something they did nothing to help with, people who frankly don't give a shit about people other than themselves. Thanks for killing Christmas, asshats. The excitement of recieving my paid-for package has now been halved by the knowledge that I can find it on bittorrent, IRC, or for a fee on eBay from one of you who is no-doubt selling it as "RARE PROPELLA ARENA UNRELEASED." Thanks again.

[SilverBolt]

Sorry GSL totaly forgot :Hangman: i had it under my crtl+v , but i had forgotten it was from your reply in another topic :prayer: :smt040

[Greatsaintlouis]

Well, I suppose I can forgive you for taking my cropped screenshot that took all of a minute to capture, crop and upload... ;-)

But next time there shall be retribution of a scale undreamt of in moral consciousnesses!

[Anonymous]

If there is any other possibility of getting unreleased games for dreamcast, I'll not donate money. I helped in this project economically to get a game for all community, but it seems that there is too much stupid people who only wants the "glory"? of putting his name in a nfo file, (and I'm sure he didn't pay nothing). Next time, I think less people will spend money to bring us new games for dreamcast...

[Greatsaintlouis]

Next time, I think less people will spend money to bring us new games for dreamcast...

This is sadly probably true, but please don't let this occurrance keep you from helping to support future releases. Who's to say that without the support of the community and the willingness of so many people to pitch in some money, Service Games might not have bought the GD and it wouldn't be nearly in our hands today? Maybe if a similarly large project like this comes up again, those of us who are really passionate about getting the game released can take a more hands-on part in the entire thing to guarantee the security of the project.

But please don't let the actions of a few greedy and self-serving individuals destroy your support for future unreleased games.

[Anonymous]

If you were any serious about collecting, you wouldnt settle for a worthless cdr with a fancy printed cover. Sorry

[Tachikoma]

Fair point, point me in the direction of a legitimate copy and I will buy it (assuming it doesnt cost more than my car).

[Paulo]

If you were any serious about collecting, you wouldnt settle for a worthless cdr with a fancy printed cover. Sorry

Well surely having a fancy printed copy is better then not having it at all?


Also the games up for download at alt.binaries.dreamcast newsgroup....

Paulo

[Yakumo]

I thought that you guys would be happy to know that we here at ASSEMbler, dcForum did actually get a mention in the official NFO by Belokk.


Summary |
|--------------- |
| Finally it has seen the light of day :D :D :D |
| BDMS is pround to present Propeller Arena Final Build. this |
| is the game most dc hardcore fans have been waitng for, |
| and now all your dreams have come true. thanks to all for |
| being patient with this public release. |
| |
| also big thanks to service games for fronting up the money |
| to get the gd-r, this project could have not been done without|
| your help in this. also thanks to megalexx for solving the |
| problem with the booting, great job man :D | | |
| |
| also thanks to neoiv,PunkSk8er,DCP and a special thanks to |
| lostuse for staying up most of the night chating and wasteing |
| cd-rs ;) also thanks to members of the d-central, dcforum and |
| the assembler forums for their support as well, and to everyone
| else i forgot or donated to the cause, THANKS :) |
| |
| |
| -= Belokk =-

Yakumo

[Greatsaintlouis]

It's nice that we got a mention in the NFO.. that's fairly nice.


If you were any serious about collecting, you wouldnt settle for a worthless cdr with a fancy printed cover. Sorry

Why you're absolutely right... I'll just go to the used game store and get me a copy of the game. Wait a minute. There was a reason I couldn't do that, why was it....?
.
.
.
Oh yeah, because IT WASN'T RELEASED AND THE GODDAMN GDR COSTS MORE THAN A TERM'S TUITION!! Seriously man, what right do you have to tell me how serious I am or am not about collecting by whether I can afford a beta game, I'd like to know. So I guess I'm not a very hardcore collector then, right?

Truth is, I'd really much rather play the game on a professionally printed CD-R or even *gasp* a CD-R I made than shell out 6-months rent for a GD-R to sit in a shiny case on my bookshelf. That probably sounds really ridiculous, huh? I mean, who would want to PLAY an unreleased game instead of shell out a buttload of money to have something cool to look at, right?

I guess behind all the biting sarcasm is the point that I really didn't appreciate that comment, and to an extent I suppose it almost seemed that you were defending the people who leaked the game - "Well don't worry about it leaking - if you were a REAL collector..."

[Paulo]

I say by tomorrow (11th) it will be on ebay! :-)

Paulo

[SilverBolt]

i think it will be there before friday so i'll say in 2 days :smt040

[Garfield]

Hey Yakumo:

Thanks for the nice spine card :smt023 I have a comment and a question for you:

On the English one, you put "Buru Buru Pack". I just dug out the original packaging for it, and it's spelled "Puru Puru Pack". Just a head up for those that want the English version of the spine card.

And my question is, where can I find the paper to print the spine cards on? In your image, they look very glossy (almost has that plastic feel to it, just like the real spine card), they are the correct size, and even have the perforated lines where they are supposed to be folded.

Thanks :smt040

[Anonymous]

If you were any serious about collecting, you wouldnt settle for a worthless cdr with a fancy printed cover. Sorry
I'm not interested on collecting the game. I'm interested on playing it. We all know the game was almost finished and we had the opportunity to get it. It's not the legal option to get a working copy, but it's the only one for a lot of people. If anyone gets another unreleased game, do you think that people will help with money next time to pay the "glory" of some warezers? If they want to be on the warez scene they will have to pay their whims.

[Yakumo]

Hey Yakumo:

Thanks for the nice spine card :smt023 I have a comment and a question for you:

On the English one, you put "Buru Buru Pack". I just dug out the original packaging for it, and it's spelled "Puru Puru Pack". Just a head up for those that want the English version of the spine card.

And my question is, where can I find the paper to print the spine cards on? In your image, they look very glossy (almost has that plastic feel to it, just like the real spine card), they are the correct size, and even have the perforated lines where they are supposed to be folded.

Thanks :smt040

Oops, my mistake on that Buru Buru pack :Hangman: As for the printing, I used Super Fine Print paper for the spines and photo paper for the front and back covers. The super Fine Print paper is thicker than normal inkjet paper and gives a nice sharp image. It's no good for covers though because it's to thin but ideal for spine cards.

Yakumo

[Anonymous]

whoops here it is


http://search.ebay.de/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&krd=1&ht=1&shortcut=4&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.de%2Fws%2F&maxRecordsPerPage=50&st=2&ebaytag1code=77&query=propeller+arena


one quick wanker!!!

[Paulo]

whoops here it is


http://search.ebay.de/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&krd=1&ht=1&shortcut=4&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.de%2Fws%2F&maxRecordsPerPage=50&st=2&ebaytag1code=77&query=propeller+arena


one quick wanker!!!

Well there we go i win :prayer:

:smt043

[SilverBolt]

6 of em on ebay allready damn thats a bunch of wanker, well who wants the honour of reporting their arses to ebay for fraud ?

[Keva]

sellin this game on ebay is a big BIG slap in the face for service games i think evertime somone sees some a hole trying to sell pa on ebay should report it!

[Yakumo]

I'll report the tw*ts! As far as I'm concerned the only person allowed to sell PA on EBay is Service Games and that's only to recoup his loses.

But where is the link? Can't read German.

Yakumo

[Anonymous]

I wouldnt worry so much the Game is mediocre at best.....

[Yakumo]

I wouldnt worry so much the Game is mediocre at best.....

The game could be a steaming pile of horse dung but that doesn't change the point that these people are wankers at best. By the way, I quite like the game. Multi player is a great laugh. Brings back days of when I'd play Aero Dancing I online.

Yakumo

[Anonymous]

Yeah I agree , opportunists listing the game are Ebay are total gits.

Still after playing it is it worth the cash that the seller got the GD-R for ?

[Mr.Pinepot]

But where is the link? Can't read German.Yakumo
Judging from above's link (eBay Germany only!) the "game" is on sale by two (more?) individuals recently registered with eBay. One of them wrote a message that IF sale was prohibited he'd remove his auctions, bla, bla, bla...

What I wonder is where the auction's cover comes from.
http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/cd/b6/d1_1_b.JPG
It is different from the prior scans in this thread... :smt017

[AntiPasta]

I'm pretty sure I saw that cover back on the old board when the whole thing began.

[Da1m0n]

Good thing German is my native language, guys...!
I reported all six auctions to the fraud investigation team... Let's hope they act in time. Man, I hate that asshole seller :snipe:

[Anonymous]

yakumo....


http://pages.ebay.de//help/contact_inline/report_listing.html


first box nr 4
2nd box 1
3rd box 2

[Da1m0n]

I said I already took care of it. :smt043

[Anonymous]

damn i hate those copy sellers too :snipe:

and although i am really HAPPY that pa is no more behind closed doors, i am pissed off, that everyone is leeching and selling now, while my copy didnt even arrive :(

[koolkid13]

That beautiful cover came from the Dreamcast history boards :smt009

[Garfield]

The game was scheduled to release in the US in the second week of Septermber, 2001. But because of 9/11/01, it was pushed back, then quietly canceled.

I remember seeing that US cover art at www.ebgames.com and www.gamestop.com when you try to pre-order the game.

[ShadowofBob]

:smt017 Has anyone else noticed that the music is only outputted though the Left Channel and the announcer/voices are only though the Right?

[Yakumo]

:smt017 Has anyone else noticed that the music is only outputted though the Left Channel and the announcer/voices are only though the Right?

The in game nusic does copme from the right channel too but only at a low volume. Pretty strange but I guess that's the style of it. At least the demo music and title screen are normal.

Yakumo

[Da1m0n]

Just reported 11 more eBay auctions (from two different sellers) for PA.
Damned mofos... :axe:

[ShadowofBob]

:smt017 Has anyone else noticed that the music is only outputted though the Left Channel and the announcer/voices are only though the Right?

The in game nusic does copme from the right channel too but only at a low volume. Pretty strange but I guess that's the style of it. At least the demo music and title screen are normal.

Yakumo

Yeah, I fianlly noticed it, but I ended up checking to see if the music is mono by recording while in stero mode to my PC, and sure enough it was. So I ended up just setting the game to mono since it gives a more balanced sound.

[Yakumo]

If you listen to the Propller Arena music through the sound test it's in Stereo. Only ingame is mono. I have the music set at volume 4 and everything else at 10 anyway so it doesn't bother me :P

By the way, just finished PA on Normal and unlocked a secret character called Assassin :smt023

Yakumo

[ShadowofBob]

If you listen to the Propller Arena music through the sound test it's in Stereo. Only ingame is mono. I have the music set at volume 4 and everything else at 10 anyway so it doesn't bother me :P

By the way, just finished PA on Normal and unlocked a secret character called Assassin :smt023

Yakumo

It's just a mono song outputted through both speakers though. I checked it by recordinging it in stereo and then compared each channel in Sound Forge, and sure enough they are identical.

That hidden character sounds cool. I've only beaten the game on easy. Does he have a different plane than everyone else or is it just a repainted one?

[Lostuse]

the second hidden charector and level are like impossible to get...

[ShadowofBob]

GAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Throws controller against the wall*
5 kills in 3 seconds!!!!!

AM2 has a sick mind to create enemies this cheap! :smt011

[Yakumo]

Yes the new characters have new planes and levels :smt024

Are you sure that you copy has mono music? Mine is deffinatly in Stereo ! I'm a big music freak so I know that I'm not mistaking. Maybe the one on the net isn't the same as the one by Belokk? I heard that the one originally for download on the net doesn't even have the Assembler board mentioned in the nfo file. Here is a complete copy of the nfo with mine.

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B D m s - Presents:
|-------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Propeller Arena |
|-------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Origin: USA - Ntsc Format: CDI |
| Date: ??/??/2004 Platform: DreamCast |
|_________________________________________________ ______________|
| |
| Summary |
|--------------- |
| Finally it has seen the light of day :D :D :D |
| BDMS is pround to present Propeller Arena Final Build. this |
| is the game most dc hardcore fans have been waitng for, |
| and now all your dreams have come true. thanks to all for |
| being patient with this public release. |
| |
| also big thanks to service games for fronting up the money |
| to get the gd-r, this project could have not been done without|
| your help in this. also thanks to megalexx for solving the |
| problem with the booting, great job man :D | | |
| |
| also thanks to neoiv,PunkSk8er,DCP and a special thanks to |
| lostuse for staying up most of the night chating and wasteing |
| cd-rs ;) also thanks to members of the d-central, dcforum and |
| the assembler forums for their support as well, and to everyone
| else i forgot or donated to the cause, THANKS :) |
| |
| |
| -= Belokk =- |
| |
| NOTES |
|----------------- |
|nothing was downsampled or ripped out =) |
| |
| |
| GREETS |
|----------------- |
|Kalisto - Echelon - Orgasm - DCP - SGMX - R18 - WjR - TrEb |
|Service Games - Megalexx - Lostuse - NeoIV -Punks8er - USA |
|Orgasm - Alpax - Muds - Ind - Paradox - Paradiso - SoulDC |
|Utopia - Hoologans - OBL - Pulsar - The Friends - Isosphere |
|Wipice - Genius - Ecko - CC2k1 - K7 - DCISO -Krema -Eurasia |
| |
| -= And to anyone i forgot =- |
| JOINING |
|----------------- |
| I am looking for: |
| |
| -Suppliers : You live in the Usa, Canada, Uk or Japan, have |
| any gd-r betas you would like to see released |
| please contact me on the usual channels |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|

Yakumo

[Da1m0n]

That... is... not... the... official... NFO... :smt027 It's close, actually, but the real one LOOKS very different (and is larger)...

[Paulo]

The official one....


http://paulo2002.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pr.txt

[Keva]

The official one....


http://paulo2002.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pr.txt


:smt043

[Da1m0n]

That's the one... what's so bloody damn funny, Keva :smt033

[Keva]

º It's the game y'all have been waiting for º
º No, it's not Debby Does Dallas DC version! º
º It's PROPELLER ARENA FINAL!

:smt043

[Yakumo]

That's odd because I got my Propeller Arena direct from Belokk :smt017

Yakumo

[Lostuse]

thats an older nfo yakumo it was what belokk was working with before punksk8er made the nicer one...

[Yakumo]

thats an older nfo yakumo it was what belokk was working with before punksk8er made the nicer one...

Ahh, I see.

Yakumo

[Da1m0n]

Ahh, so do I.



:smt023

[belokk]

hey all sorry i haven't posted in awhile work is hell. anyway i hope not everyone is upset with me. i know service games is bent on the realease, but i am sorry, it wasen't suppose to be this way. but that leak was pretty big by the time i got home. the server was going crazy in #dreamcast-backups. i could not let the leak not give repects to the right people that work so hard on this project. so to answer some questions. the nfo i gave you yakumo was an early nfo i was working on for the pblic release, but i gave punk8ster it and he redid it to make it sound more intresting. the service games release will nto have the megalexx logo on the sega linece screen. i took that ip.bin out and used the oringial one that the my rip had. so that will be the big differnce between public and special edition, but i packed the game the same way i did the public release. also i hope everyone enjoy's their special edition PA ( i am waiting also ) and again to all that helped in the project thanks for your hard work :D

=belokk=

[Garfield]

Any time frame that our special edition will be arriving in the mailbox? I don't want to stalk the mailman everyday :axe:

[Yakumo]

Service Games said that he'd post them on Wednesday just gone. So some people should be getting them soon.

Yakumo

[Da1m0n]

Belokk... I wonder why the limited-edition release won't have Megalexxx' name in IP.BIN? I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind that :smt017 Just curious about it. :smt017

EDIT: Or might it have something to do with the fact that the IP.BIN also contains ECHELON as the manufacturer's name? LOL :smt040

[ShadowofBob]

Anyone here besides me unlock the Me262 or the HKT-7700 yet? :smt043

[Greatsaintlouis]

I don't want to stalk the mailman everyday
Stalking the mailman is one of my favorite activities and is indeed a part of my everyday routine.

And just out of curiousity, could the exclusion of Megalexx's name from things be indicitive of his not deserving of being in the game credits for some reason or another? :smt017

It really seems to me that from the moment the GD left Service Games' hands, this was treated as just another warezed Dreamcast release. Last I heard it was going to belokk for ripping, and then I hear of belokk thanking some guy named megalexx for getting the game working, and then eventually there begins to be a whole slew of names associated with PA, and then even references to the "PA Team." I'm sorry, but it has seriously taken on the proportions of a warez release, and I honestly don't trust any of the names of people thanked for their help in that nfo at all. I'm not trying to point fingers too explicitly here, but the GD was shipped from Service Games to belokk, and then we hear of these 6 or 7 people that have something to do with the project, and 1 or more of them eventually leak it out. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to be able to play the game soon, but this was not the way it was supposed to happen, and I think the big part is the carelessness in which "help" was enlisted for getting the thing running, and the amount of access "help" had to the ripped info.

You can bet that people are going to be thinking long and hard about sharing any unreleased stuff they may have, and I can't really say I blame them.

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Anyone here besides me unlock the Me262 or the HKT-7700 yet? :smt043

Yeah, I beat the game on Medium difficulty, and it said I had this Ninja stylee chap. But he's not on the chara select screen? But it also said something about beating the game again, with the same character (American guy).

So what do I do? Beat the game again with American guy? Or beat the game on hard? Help

[Yakumo]

You have to beat the game again with that Annoying American guy :snipe: I beat the game with err, can't remember her name now but it's the woman with blonde hair. PA is a great game but someof the characters really p!ss me off. So much that I hunt them down first when playing :smt027 The annoying ones are the American guy, the old German guy and that fat british pizza guy :smt019 THey're the first to be blowen away :smt033

Yakumo

[AntiPasta]

the old German guy
Yakumo

Errr... isnt he British? Or are there two old guys?

[Yakumo]

I think there are a few with British accents but only the Pizza guy should be British I think. The old guy is definatly German :smt024

Yakumo

[Anonymous]

sorry peeps 2 more on german ebay

http://search-desc.ebay.de/ws/search/GetResult?catref=C6&from=R10&ht=1&sacategory=-1&sapricehi=&sapricelo=&satitle=propeller+arena&socolumnlayout=3&sojs=0&soloctog=9&sorecordsperpage=50&sosortorder=1&sosortproperty=1&sotextsearched=2

the first one talkin about sega selling the rights to a fan group and then distr. it over the net.... BULLSHEIT!!

[Yakumo]

What is it with the Germans and their Propeller Arena cdrs? Seems to be rampent over there.

Yakumo

[bendermike]

I have report one auction on ebay.fr :)

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35100&item=4131252211&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

and also another here...(24usd !!!)
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8105852234&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Off topic : anyone have ever made a cover (front/back) for propeller arena ost ? it will be great :)

[TheDeathcoaster]

On the topic of the Propeller Arena soundtrack....If anyone cares the music is done by a band called Zero Down.

[bendermike]

pretty cool music I think :)

thanks for the info :)

[Da1m0n]

Are you sure about that... As far as I know, the music is by a band called "No Use For A Name", on the Fat Wreck Records label... I've never heard of this Zero Down :smt017 ...

Anyway - as before, I have reported all German eBay auctions for PA - three of them had been cancelled by the seller, the other six are about to be (mwuhaha) ... somebody take care of the French auctions now, please :)

[TheDeathcoaster]

Yeah I'm sure...I have one of their CDs ^_^

http://mysite.freeserve.com/gotb33r/Zerodown.jpg?0.9880803077744807

-As You can see only a few from the PA soundtrack are on here....but I only own one of their albums ^_^

I notice it is the same record company though...[/img]

[SilverBolt]

Finaly got PA today, i have to say it's a nice game but i had hoped for more from the game then a crazy taxi style game in the air, those missions are way to easy.

[bendermike]

I have made these covers for propeller arena ost :)

use it freely no problems !

hope you enjoy it ! :)

http://www.bendermike.firstream.net/images/Propeller_Arena_ost-front.JPG

http://www.bendermike.firstream.net/images/Propeller_Arena_ost-back2.JPG

:smt040

[ShadowofBob]

Ummm.. Just though I'd let you guys know that not all the tracks are by Zero Down. The Track list is as follows. THis is also how the tracks are numbered in the game.

1. Consumed - Wake Up With A Smile
2. Comsumed - King Kong Song
3. Zero DOWN - Bite the Hand That Feeds
4. Zero DOWN - Going Nowhere
5. No Use For A Name - Life Size Mirror
6. No Use For A Name - Lies Can't Pretend
7. Mad Caddies - Shaving Your Life
8. Rise Against - My Life Inside Your Heart
9. Rise Against - The Art of Losing
10. AM2 Original Track - Angel High
11. AM2 Original Track - Justify
12. AM2 Original Track - Fighter Flyer
13. AM2 Original Track - Lookin' For U
14. AM2 Original Track - No Return
15. AM2 Original Track - Ride the Wind
16. AM2 Original Track - She Says This
17. AM2 Original Track - The Battle
18. AM2 Original Track - This Trips
19. AM2 Original Track - Good Time Wings
20. AM2 Original Track - Take It High
21. AM2 Original Track - Survivor

[bendermike]

Is that info sure ?

because, if it's right i can change the back cover :)

[TheDeathcoaster]

Oh, my mistake ^_^ All the tracks sounded like they were by the same band to me.....I guess now I need to try and fork out some cash to buy the albums of these other bands. The music is excellent ^_^

[bendermike]

ok so i have change back cover

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Ok, so I tried it again with the American guy. Shadow was one of the other planes, and damn its hard! He comes in and scores all the points before you have a chance.

So after you beat Shadow, how do you unlock the other secret character? Who is s/he?

Are there any other extras in the game? VMU mini game? That'd be damn cool.

[ShadowofBob]

Here are some pics I took with my capture card. :smt023

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/shadowofbob/PA/s1.jpg

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/shadowofbob/PA/sr2.jpg

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/shadowofbob/PA/hkt3.jpg

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/shadowofbob/PA/ls3.jpg

View all the pics at http://pages.sbcglobal.net/shadowofbob/PA/

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Those are damn cool.

Ok, so how'd you unlock 'em?

Hard?

[ShadowofBob]

Unlock Shadow by beating the game twice on normal with the same plane.
Unlock Sol & Ray by beating the game three times on noraml with the same plane.
Unlock Lil' Susie by beating all the Propeller Agility Challanges.
Unlock HKT-7700 by beating all the Propeller Stunt chanllenges.

I'm writing a FAQ on the game with all the unlockables, secrets, and plane moves that I hope to finish soon.

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

And there's no other secrets or unlockables you fancy giving us a preview of now? Or anything that's just cool/quirky?

Thanks for the list of how to get the planes. Nice one.

[ShadowofBob]

Here are all the others that I know of. Any more I find will bein the FAQ. :smt024

You unlock the Extreme difficulty levle at the same time you unlock Sol Ray.

I also just finished the Propeller Challange courses and when you beat all of them you earn the Air Shark Blimp.

I forgot to say that in order to get any of the Stunt, Challange, and Ability unlockables you must have Shadow and Sol Ray unlocked.

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Why not do the FAQ in the style of a DC manual. With all the buttons and moves and extra stuff. So ppl could d/l it, print it out and make up a proper manual??

With the read-me from the release in there as well.

[Da1m0n]

LOL!!! I love that HKT-7700 one :D A flying gamepad... only the Japanese could come up with this :D ... Anyway, that's interesting about the soundtrack... I, too, thought all the songs were by one and the same band... damn, they sound EXACTLY alike. :smt017

[virtual alan]

Rather than plough through dozens of posts.

Has anyone in the UK that contributed received their copy yet???
:smt017

[Yakumo]

Probably not since people in the US still don't have theirs and I don't have mine :( What's going on?

Yakumo

[Anonymous]

Some pople in the U.S. already have it. You can see final edition here: http://pinnacle.netfirms.com/proparena.html

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Wooo, finally unlocked all 5 secret planes. :smt023

So, has anyone actually managed to complete extreme difficulty? What's the prize- New plane? New title screen? Needs to be something damn cool.

[Yakumo]

Some pople in the U.S. already have it. You can see final edition here: http://pinnacle.netfirms.com/proparena.html

that copy of Propeller Arena was made and sent to that buyer by me :smt043 It's NOT from Service games. Check the Propeller Arena Thread over at Dreamcast History and you'll find out why I sent it.

Yakumo

[wombat]

found out a nice secret :)... when your in the 'mainmenu'.. press L+R ... then you'll see the gallery mode appear (then just add 'start' and off you go)

I wonder if there are more cheats/tricks... also tried the cableplay codes from F355 and VOOT... but none worked :( (it would have been neat if the game supported linkplay)

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Just completed the game for the 4th time with Shadow and you get.....

Nothing. No new title screen or anything. Oh, well.

Did it with Sol & Rey, and the pic at the end of the credits has all 10 pilots on it. Cool.

Gonna do it with one of the comedy planes next, to see if the end sequence changes or anything. Will use the DC pad.

EDIT: :smt033 Just completed it with the HKT-7700 (DC pad). Quite funny end sequence, seeing the DC pad flying over the various levels. Looks like a UFO! The best part is, when you get shot down, the VMU parachutes to safety. :smt043

What I have noticed though, is that an icon for each character appears on the top of the title screen when you complete the game with that character. There is definately only space for 13 icons, so no more secret planes then. Maybe get a new title screen when finishing the game at least once with each character?

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

I can't get this to work. Maybe I should unlock something first?


found out a nice secret :)... when your in the 'mainmenu'.. press L+R ... then you'll see the gallery mode appear (then just add 'start' and off you go)

[ShadowofBob]

I can't get this to work. Maybe I should unlock something first?


found out a nice secret :)... when your in the 'mainmenu'.. press L+R ... then you'll see the gallery mode appear (then just add 'start' and off you go)


You have to beat Championship mode on normal once in order to unlock it.

[Greatsaintlouis]

Err... I don't mean to sound like most of the DCH people, but.... where is Service Games? And my copy of PA? :smt017

[virtual alan]

Rather than plough through dozens of posts.

Has anyone in the UK that contributed received their copy yet???
:smt017

Any UK guys or gals got theirs yet???

Bet it`ll be here while I am away :smt009

[hokman]

can someone post the finished save here so i can download it on my dc? Thanks a lot, i think many people will appreciate you.

[Anonymous]

It would be kinda funny if ServiceGames totally played you guys...just to get the GDR all to himself, and make some money while hes at it..... :smt043

[kstyle25]

Youre a brave guy GUEST, posting a jab at us as an unregistered nobody... :smt040

[Anonymous]

It wasnt a jab...its just questioning is motives,...and im sure down the line you guys would get a laugh out of it...Chill :smt033

[Da1m0n]

I hope ServiceGamer didn't just throw the towel and decided not to mail any copies. Not that I'm saying that's what happened, but I wouldn't put it past him either. I know he was extremely unhappy with the early free release of PA, and even had somebody on DCforums claim that he blamed me for it. :smt009 Well, I for one haven't heard of anybody getting their copy thus far, sure would like to, though!

[Paulo]

I hope ServiceGamer didn't just throw the towel and decided not to mail any copies.

Well with the amount of legal action that can be taken against everyone if i were him i wouldnt be messing people about....

[Anonymous]

What type of legal action can they take? "I bought an illegal copy of a game and he didn't send" ? I don't think that will blow over in court.

[Tachikoma]

I think he meant action against Service Games, all it will take is one pissed off "donator" with his details to drop him in the shit.

[Anonymous]

Ahhh I understand now.

[Greatsaintlouis]

Yeah, we're all a bit guilty either ordering or having downloaded what wasn't meant to be released, however, being an owner of Sega property that most likely wasn't meant to leave AM2 studios, he'd be in a little more trouble than most of us.

I don't know about anyone else, but if this DOES turn out to be a scam, I'd sure like to get my money back...

[ServiceGames]

Ok guys I'm realy sorry to leave you in the dark for so long.
I'm still struggling to get all of the copies mailed and I'm beginning to think that the Propeller Arena GDR is a curse to all who own it. When wyte had it his car was broken into and the same happened to me last week. I am not trying to give a shit load of excuses it's just that things have been exceptionally horrible for me in the past few weeks. We're talking majorly bad. My girlfriend is very depressed and suicidal my best friend was in a car accident and one of his lungs is not functioning and work has turned into a miserable crapfest...
Sorry about all of the ranting. I am sending more copies out Saturday morning.
Great Saint Louis could you please email me with your address.
retiredgamer@msn.com

[AntiPasta]

Ouch. I am very sorry to hear that :-(
Godspeed getting thru all this, and thanks for what you have done for the community :smt023

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Ok, so there are problems with UK ppls getting their copies of PA.

Well, I have the game. If anyone who is on the IRC channel wants it, I can send it, but it's the public release.

Otherwise, ServiceGames, if you wanna send me your version of PA (just missing the Megalex logo on title screen, yes?) I can burn CDs and print Jap stylee covers all weekend and have them in the post Tuesday morning (bank holiday on Monday) for ppls in Europe/UK. Just paypal me enough cash to cover however many CDRs that are needed and postage.

Just thought I'd see if I can help out, seeing as I've had the game for over a week, and some of you guys are still waiting.

Oh and ServiceGames, sorry to hear about all the shite your going through, dude.

[Anonymous]

I am unaware of the public release. What are the differences between the two releases, if any?

[AntiPasta]

it has something to do with the Megalex logo in the bootup screen, I dont think there's any other difference.

[Greatsaintlouis]

Sorry to hear that things aren't going well right now for you ServiceGames, and sorry for doubting your intentions after no contact - I hope everything works out for the best, and soon!

[Anonymous]

ServiceGames is full of shit and hasn't delivered what he promised anyone and has basically disapeared. DO NOT SEND HIM YOUR MONEY UNLESS YOU HAVE HEARD FROM ANYONE WHO RECEIVED WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED. I don't normally hang out at this forum but i wanted to let you guys know what he is pulling at other places. If you sent him paypal, then cancel your transaction.

:butthead: :snipe:

[AntiPasta]

Calm down, no reason to get insulting here. I'm not aware of the full situation (doubt anyone but ServiceGames is) and everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, but lets keep this civil, okay?

[bendermike]

In my opinion.... how many times does it takes to post cd ?

well...about an hour , maybe 2 ? (packaging time include)

Not 2 months lol

I can understand SG situation and personal problems...but...we're talking about money.... I can understand much why people are angry (and they are alowed to !!)

and also SG have talked with yakumo sometimes, why SG did not say any word here ? it take 2 min to post ;)

I'm not concerned as far I have not donate for PA, but I think this is why people are flamming him

[Anonymous]

I just received a refund from service games for the money I paid for a copy, I would still like to support him. I replied to him to please supply an update. I will gladly reissue the payment if he truely intends on issues the discs to those who supported the effort.

[Garfield]

Well, I have donated to the cause and have been waiting for awhile now (don't even remember when I sent the Paypal).

Just keep the faith, people. If we had waited for this long (the initial donation plan, the cracking of the game's boot-up code, etc), just waiting for a few more weeks wouldn't hurt. :smt043

If I don't receive the game by July *wink wink*, then I will start doubting ServiceGames :snipe:

Speaking to ServiceGames: if you are too busy, just send the CDRs and we will print the CD labels and cases ourselves. And drop an e-mail to the people that you have mailed a copy would be nice (so I know when to start starking the mailman again).

[Anonymous]

Uhm. Maybe this will make everyone hate me and chase me off the board, but I have the game already. Do we not want to get it from a link or something? I could mail copies of it out for 2 bucks shipping.

*runs away*

[Tachikoma]

Nobody is going to chase you away for having the game already, a LOT of people already have the game. A big part is the principle of the thing, not so much the "who got what and when" thing. Offering to sell copies is against board rules though, so we can't condone that.

*Waits for the "but we bought a copy from ServiceGames and that was fine" when people donated towards the release and (should have) got a special CDR as a thank you*

[Anonymous]

I offered a free link or shipping charges, not exactly selling anything. But I understand if you want to wait.

[Tachikoma]

Thank you for the generous offer, but its still technically W4R3Z, so can't be done on the boards. There are genuine reasons for turning you down, its a shame people can't be more open about things like this, but "we" (the Assembler site and community) would not last long.

[Paulo]

Thank you for the generous offer, but its still technically W4R3Z, so can't be done on the boards. There are genuine reasons for turning you down, its a shame people can't be more open about things like this, but "we" (the Assembler site and community) would not last long.

Oh and you paying $25 to service games wasnt buying it was it? Plz be consistant as a mod at least...

[Tachikoma]

I didn't pay him any money at all, I never had any intention to.

Board rules forbid direct linking of "questionable" material, if our good friend here (in all good faith) posted a link to the game, the whole ASSEMbler site and forums could be shut down. It's as simple as that, there is no "consistency" issue at all.

[Anonymous]

How direct is link to a site that links you to a torrent file, which is on some other server?

[Tachikoma]

Well, its not bad, but we have to be carefull so its best not to. I think most people here are capable of finding it anyway if they spend 2 minutes looking.

[Anonymous]

True, true.

[Christuserloeser]

*Looks at ServiceGames* This guy's a 'true' fake... :smt022


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Propeller Arena: Aviation Battle Championship
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Kurous (http://www.dcemulation.com/phpBB/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=13999) posted some interesting info about the newly 'released' Dreamcast game Propeller Arena over at the DCEmulation message boards (http://www.dcemulation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=50730):

I don't know when the cancelled release date was, but I believe around Fall 2001, probably in September or October. Here's the reason Sega gave for cancelling it

http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/098/098281p1.html

After seeing the game, it seems a bit ridiculous that it got cancelled...but go back to 2001 and the aftermath of the terrorist attack, its not too difficult to see why SEGA cancelled it...still a shame though

Propeller Arena at its heart is a WWII themed dog fighting game with Arcade style play. Picture a mix between the gameplay of Crazy Taxi and Star Fox and you'll have a slight feel for how this game plays. The Crazy Taxi influence is quite strong, from the character design to the Training modes. However there is no carting passengers around at break neck spees this time just good ol fashined machine gun fire.

There are several modes of play, Championship, Quick Battle, Training and Network.

Championship pits you against 5 other players over the course of 10 stages. Rounds last 5 minutes each or until someone scores 10 kills. You're ranked by the number of kills you attain by the end of the round. 1st place gets 10 points, 2nd 4, 3rd 2, 4th 2 and 5th 0. You have to be 1st or 2nd at least, and points carry over from previous rounds. So its possible to get last as long as you have enough points to stay on top (like mario kart). As far as I know there are 8 arenas to play, but perhaps beating the game unlocks hidden ones...

Gameplay is pretty straighforward, but a couple twists are added to make it difficult to master (more on those later).
The plane handles pretty unrealistically, but that's what you'd expect from a game like this. You can brake and speed up pretty easily and make nice coasting turns. Its actually pretty hard to keep anyone in your sites for long at the higher difficult levels. There is just one generic machine gun, and the only aspect of this that varies from player to player is the spacing of the guns on the plane. The bullets look like the hyperblaster fire from quake 2. The HUD displays your Speed (SPD), Damage you've taken (DMG), and Power (PWR) at the bottom of the screen in nice multi colored bars. SPD and DMG are self explanatory, but PWR is related to one of the twists I spoke of earlier...At the top the other players health and names are displayed.

Stunts can be performed if you have enough power, these vary from sharp turns to loops and power slides. There are quite a few and each is executed by specific key combination and then hitting the "trick" button. For example, to perform a 90 degree turn is similar to execting Ryu's fireball. These add a huge amount of depth to the game, and must be mastered in order to beat the game or own your friends in multiplayer.

Another twist is the "Tail" type mode that occasionally happens if you keep someone in you sites within 100 meters, or perform a trick that lands you right behind them within this distance. The annoucer yells "chance time" and if you hit the trick button fast enough you zoom in on the person and tail them mercilessly until they're downed. I'm not sure if the other person can escape this, probably by doing a counter trick.

Yet another twist are the flashing crates that are spread in a circular pattern at some location (which changes, as the crates dissapear and reappear in different spots). Shoot these and a power up appears. The crates are Green, Yellow, and Red and spawn a random power up from a selection of similar types, depending on the colour of crate. Green power ups are defensive, Yellow seem to change a gameplay aspect, and Red are offensive. Here's a list of power ups I've found so far:

Green
Heal (restore health)
Hyper (increase speed?)
Power (restores power bar)

Yellow
Freeze (no one can turn except you)
hard belt (not sure...not sure if that's what its called either)
Reverse (everyone's controls are reversed except yours)

Red
Missile (lauches a big missile that attacks the closest person)
Homing Missile (launches a pack of seaker misslies)
Bomb (unloads a big bomb with a huge blast radius, anyone caught in it takes damage)
Hot Potato (shoot it to someone else before time runs out)

There might be more...

The character design in this game is probably my biggest knock against it. They all have annoying voices and horrible stereotypical actions and phrases. Fortunately you don't have to deal with them that much, and the planes they fly in are modelled nicely. The characters are:

Eagle Jam (patriotic american stereotype...pretty bad)
Shameless Cats (sleazy chick, with lines like "can you handle me?", my favourite of the bunch though
Muscle Bros. (Just grunts a lot)
Pizza Fat (A fat redneck moron, who constaly babbles about pizza..and apparently lacks respect from his father...Why AM2 would think people would play this loser I have no idea)
Pengo Jets (purple haired fruit)
8-Bit Beat (Techno junky with metallic hair)
Hex Candy (Annoying tween, with a "shoot me now" type voice)
Golden Kinfe (Old guy, who keeps reminding you how old and useless he is)

The stages are gorgeous:
Stage 1: Airport
Cool looking airport with a nasa shuttle and other shuttles lauching all the time. SEANA is written all over the place in the Sega logo font...any idea what that is?

Stage 2: Red Valley
Obviously inspired by the grand canyon, pretty cool, nice lighting effects with the sun.

Stage 3: Tower City
The stage that probably got the game cancelled. It doesn't really resemble new york, but has a big tower in the middle which you crash into a lot if you're sloppy with the stunts.

Stage 4: Sky High
Open blue sky, the clouds are nicely rendered

Stage 5: Ice World
Like fliying over the North Pole, cool ice flows.

Stage 6: Volcano
Like flying over an active volcano. Fireballs fly out the top and can kill you.

Stage 7: Old Castle
More like a fort, this is a tricky level due to all the structures. Again misplaced stunts will end your flight short

Stage 8: Phantom Island
Tropical Island at night, with awesome lightning effects that arc across the sky. Not sure if they hurt you or not.

More info about the levels and characters can be found here:
Propeller Arena Aviation Battle Championship
Week1
http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/096/096304p1.html
Week2
http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/096/096518p1.html
Week3
http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/096/096692p1.html

Quick Battle mode of play lets you set up a game against the computer or a couple of friends. Each player chooses a plane and then a stage and play continues like in Championship mode. For 2 players the screen is split vertically down the middle. Computer players are still present, not sure if there are always 6.

Training mode is reminiscent of Crazy Taxi and features 3 styles of play:

Stunt
The key combinations for various stunts are shown in a window and you try to complete them succesfully before time runs out. If you can link them together to form "combos" you'll greatly increase your score. There are 8 levels to complete and this is a good way to learn the different stunt combos in the game!

Challenge
Each level has a different scenario to complete. The first has you shooting down missiles before they reach the ground and blow up the air port. These are damn hard. 8 Levels in total as far as I know.

Agility
You have to fly through rings in a specific order under the time limit. Also pretty hard!

Network menu option opens up Propeller Arena's network Options. There is Network play, Ability to upload your training scores, BBA settings and you can set your Handle that other online players can see.

Last but not least is the options menu which lets you set your controls, play Background music, enable jump pack support, load/save data to VMU (it takes 10 blocks btw), and choose your difficulty (hard/normal/easy) and number of continues (3,5 or 10)

The Background music is an assortment of alternative and rock. Here's the tracks that made it to the game:

1. Wake up with a smile
Consume/Fat Wreck Chords
2. King Kong Song
Consume/Fat Wreck Chords
3. Bite the Hand that Feeds
Zero Down/Fat Wreck Chords
4. Going Nowhere
Zero Down/Fat Wreck Chords
5. Life Size Mirror
No use for a name/Fat Wreck Chords
6. Lies can't pretend
No Use for a name/Fat Wreck Chords
7. Shaving Your Life
Mad Caddies/Fat Wreck Chords
8. My Life Inside Your Heart
Rise Against/Fat Wreck Chords
9. The Art of Losing
Rise Against/Fat Wreck Chords
10. Angel High
AM2 Original
11. Justify
AM2 Original
12. Take it High
AM2 Original
13. Fighter Flyer
AM2 Original
14. Lookin' for U
AM2 Original
15. No Return
AM2 Original
16. Ride the Wind
AM2 Original
17. She Says this
AM2 Original
18. The Battle
AM2 Original
19. This Trips
AM2 Original
20. Good Time Wings
AM2 Original
21. Survivor
AM2 Original

Not really my kinda thing, but they suit the game well. Good dogfighting music.
The sound effects are pretty good as well, the plane engines whine appropriately to how fast you're travelling, the bullets have a satisfying rattle and explosions are intense. The voices are pretty annoying, and so is the radio chatter they create whenever you get downed by the computer, or manage to down someone yourself.


Well that about does it, hope someone finds this useful. Comments and corrections appreciated. Stupid posts that will get this locked are not.

PeacE
Kurous


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SpItoS (http://www.dcemulation.com/phpBB/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=18061) added some hints about the game:


Someone found these to unlock in championship mode:

Unlock Shadow by beating the game twice on normal with the same plane.

Unlock Sol & Ray by beating the game three times on noraml with the same plane.

Unlock Lil' Susie by beating all the Propeller Agility Challanges.

Unlock HKT-7700 by beating all the Propeller Stunt chanllenges.

You unlock the Extreme difficulty level at the same time you unlock Sol Ray.

When you beat all Propeller Challange courses you earn the Air Shark Blimp.

In order to get any of the Stunt, Challange, and Ability unlockables you must have Shadow and Sol Ray unlocked.

Try them and do it for every character.


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A few weeks later Kempis Curious (http://www.dcevolution.netfirms.com/phpbb/index/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=75) put this additional info up on DCEvolution (http://www.dcevolution.netfirms.com/phpbb/index/viewtopic.php?t=110)

Thanks for putting up this FAQ, it seems to be the first one on the WWW. :)

Having played this game a lot, it's a cryin' shame it didn't get released... it's a lot of fun, and keeps you wanting to come back for more just like Crazy Taxi.

I'd like to add a few things,

The two other yellow crates are
-Stealth which makes you invisible
-"Hard-BLT" (probably hard bullet) which increases your machinegun power. It's one of the lucky ones to get.

Some things can be interacted with in the background:
Tower City: The billboards can be shot down
Old Castle: The bridges can be blown up like in the training mode
Giga Plant: door will open in the tower if you approach it

IIRC the two unlockable stages are
-Far East Ruin which has pretty Japanese and Chinese temples, pagodas, and a colossal Buddha.
-Giga Plant which is a huge hole in the ground with a tower in the middle and bridges which rotate around. Some kinda futuristic factory or something.

The different standard characters do have significant differences in speed and power recovery. I'm not sure if their bullet power is different, but it seems to me that planes with concentrated guns (like the p-38 ) can bring more bullets on the target before the target has a chance to realize it and evade. But for certain some the unlockable characters have unfair advantages... The Assassin will only rarely take a bullet, and Lil' Suzy can shoot someone down with only four or so hits.

I would advise anyone getting frustrated with the training levels to stick with them. They are hard but a lot of fun. The agility rings were especially hard for me until I was able to do the double-tap 100% of the time on the accelerator and brake.


If anyone finds any more fun things to do with the backgrounds, or can tell me what's special about the other unlockables, please post on this board. I love that sorta thing with this game and the Crazy Taxi series.

PIZZA FAT, FOREVAH!!!!!

-k

curious

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Chris

www.dcemu.co.uk

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

Man, Sol & Ray are a pain in the ass!! They kill us too fast!!



PD

[Anonymous]

So, has anyone actually recieved one? I donated $30 towards the gdr cost, and even if SG did screw everyone as far as getting nice pretty PA's, at least, hopefully, the money did go to help pay for the gdr that we are all enjoying a copy of, at least.

[Yakumo]

Nope. Nobody got one from Service Games. A few people did gat them (5 I think) from me because I still had their donations in my Paypal account.

Yakumo

[Anonymous]

and the others wont get it anymore?
:Hangman:

[Calpis]

Are you guys harassing people selling PA? (If not you should!) I've noticed quite a few selling outside of eBay :(

[Garfield]

Damn, my original donation went to Yakumo, but then I asked him to transfer the fund to ServiceGames because ServiceGames is the one buying and ripping the GDR. :smt009

Does anyone have any contact with ServiceGames at all? How about you, Yakumo? Is there anyway you can talk to ServiceGames and speed up the process? :smt011

[Paulo]

Does anyone have any contact with ServiceGames at all? How about you, Yakumo? Is there anyway you can talk to ServiceGames and speed up the process? :smt011

Yakumo wasnt selling the game he was taking the money to forward to servicegames... and it looks like hes done a runner and no one will see anything!?! Did anyone even get one? Aprt from the ones yakumo sent?

[Yakumo]

Service Games has done a runner :smt011 Nobody will get their game. I should have kept all of the donations I received and sent the games out myself. I have his home address if people want it. I'll even post it here as long as the other mods agree with it. Otherwise I'll send it to people Via PM or Email.

Yakumo

[Greatsaintlouis]

If indeed he cannot be reached, and every means of contacting him has been done (including phone calls, if anyone has his number) then by all means please post his personal info so we can go about the nessicary procedures in getting our money back.

ServiceGames, if you are checking in, I hope you're aware of the large amount of doubt and suspicion that is surrounding the proceedings going on here. Please let us know what's going on; if sending the discs out isn't an option anymore, then please contact those of us who have donated in order to refund our money, otherwise I'm sure the other mods will agree with myself and Yakumo in voting to release your home address and do whatever it takes to get our funds returned to us. Again, please let us know what's going on or we will have no other choice.

[zyloj]

I got my refund. In dchistory there is a post explaining how to get your money:
http://www.dreamcasthistory.com/dreamcasting/viewtopic.php?t=895
Good luck

[Christuserloeser]

SErvice GAmes... what a fake...


Chris

[Yakumo]

For those still getting no luck in a refund from Service Games then maybe you'd be better off sending him some REAL mail. An Email is easy to brush off but a real letter isn't. Here is Service Games address.

EDIT: Erm was searching google and its not fair to leave this here. Paulo

Now don't be going around to his place doing anything stupid, OK? Words are all you need. We don't need some idiot taking their fists or more likely in the US, guns out. Just write him a letter demanding for your refund.

Yakumo

[Greatsaintlouis]

Just as an OT note, the debate on firearms and such can now be found in the Offtopic Forum. :smt023

[Garfield]

I don't want to sound all suspicous, but has anyone heard from wyte (the original Propeller Arena GDR owner) lately?

I hope what I'm going to say is just a wild speculation, but what if this is a scam from day 1, and ServiceGames and Wyte worked together all along to scam money from diehard Sega fans like us, the ones that donated to the cause?

P.S. Is it illegal to mail dog poop? :toimonster:

[virtual alan]

Haven`t read "all" the posts as to many

But wasn`t BELOK ripping the game for Service Games?