Unreleased or beta pics (formerly beta pics)

[sayin999]

Since the form has been moved, activity seems to have been a little slow around here. I think we should start a post where we post beta/alpha pics of games that came out, or didn't for that matter. What does everyone think? :smt040

[Paulo]

D2 for the M2 pictures...

http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-1.jpg
http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-2.jpg
http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-3.jpg
http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-4.jpg
http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-5.jpg
http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-6.jpg
http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-7.jpg
http://www.dark-legacy.org/survivalist/images/d2proto-8.jpg

[sayin999]

Very nice pualo, this post is getting off to a great start. I will try to find some beta stuff today and add to this post.

[Paulo]

Anyone got a explanation as to where these D2 screens came from?

D2's opening sequence was already FMV when it was the first ever game shown for the DC. So this was either already in dev for the m2 (Goes against all ive ever heard about it) or its a very very early version of the DC game...

http://www.universo3do.hpg.ig.com.br/Pict0018.jpg
http://www.universo3do.hpg.ig.com.br/Pict0017.jpg
http://www.universo3do.hpg.ig.com.br/1.jpg

On this Picture there is something to the left of the tv... cant tell what it is tho. Might help to date these pictures tho?

http://www.universo3do.hpg.ig.com.br/Pict0019.jpg
http://www.universo3do.hpg.ig.com.br/Pict0010.jpg
http://www.universo3do.hpg.ig.com.br/Pict0016.jpg
http://www.universo3do.hpg.ig.com.br/Pict0005.jpg

[Yakumo]

THose above screens of the GC intro are taken from what should have been the M2 version. When I get some time I'll add pictures of the D2 beta of Dreamcast D2 along side the final versions. You'll notice that the 1st version of Dreamcast D2 used far less polygons than the finished version. But for now enjoy this shot from Beta Shenmue.
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/unknown_room.jpg

Got loads of Shenmue Beta shots that those bastards over at Shenmue Dojo stole and didn't even give me credit for them :smt019

Yakumo

[sayin999]

here are some for rev limit for nintendo 64

http://world64.com/games/rev_limit/07.jpg

http://world64.com/games/rev_limit/16.jpg

http://samsworld.com/n64/games/rev-limit/22.jpg

[Greatsaintlouis]

sorry for the offtopic, but sayin, that is an awesome avatar - seen Jersey Girl yet?

I'm afraid I don't have anything interesting to share - have a good bit of movies, but no pictures.. :Hangman:

[Paulo]

THose above screens of the GC intro are taken from what should have been the M2 version.
Yakumo

So the first old style M2 version was abandone way before the M2 production stoped then?!

As those pictures of laura and the plane are the FMV of the start on the DC version...

[Yakumo]

As those pictures of laura and the plane are the FMV of the start on the DC version...

No, those pictures of Lara are not from the DC or M2 version since Lara looks different in both versions. The pictures shown are the same as Lara from D1. My guess is that Kenji Endo (warp) were planing D2 while still making D1. This explains why the modle of Lara is the same as D1 when the M2 and DC D2 screens clearly show a Lara with straight hair. I think that In the end Warp just used the old movie then changed the models with more modern versions for the Dreamcast intro.

I'd love to see the M2 D2 running. The quality blows away what the PSX or Saturn and even the N64 could do.

Yakumo

[Doshin]

A couple from Dinosaur Planet, before it made its way to the N64:

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/dinoplanet/DPS008.JPG

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/dinoplanet/DINOPLANET0342.JPG

Conker, before he got nasty:

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/conker/conk64.jpg

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/conker/01.JPG

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/conker/conker64_screen009.jpg

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/conker/TWELVETALES9.JPG

And Mario Kart 64, featuring all new characters and a different title screen:

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/mariokart64/mariokart.jpg

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/_XOOM/mononline/unseen/mariokart64/betamkart5.jpg

I'll post more later if I get chance, but they're all from the same website which I wholly recommend for this sort of thing. There are 8 pages of Shenmue beta pics on the Dreamcast section...

[wombat]

wow I never seen any pictures of Dinosour Planet when it still was an N64 game. (although I did hear and read about it) .. the N64 fans would have died for that game to get it released... It looks really good!

[GaijinPunch]

How about a link? Those pics didn't show up.

I don't have this linked on my page yet b/c I goofed up and didn't update this in my most recent update, but...

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/video_index.cgi

The first one is a sampler (from a playable beta version) of Atomic Runner Chelnov for the Saturn, which was eventually axed (for good reason).

[Yakumo]

gaijinPunch, love the new layout of your site. Much easier to get around now :)

Yakumo

[zangardo]

Those pictures of the FMV for M2 D2 came from a Japanese 3DO LIVE! CD number 9. Really great to see the FMV in action.

[The_Squeege]

ICO PSOne Version:
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/7/0,1311,i=70970,00.jpg
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/7/0,1311,i=70969,00.jpg

Here's the article:
http://www.1up.com/article2/0,2053,1553979,00.asp

[retro]

On this Picture there is something to the left of the tv... cant tell what it is tho. Might help to date these pictures tho?

The white thing is a Simpsons video! Its obviously just a living room... hmm. The things under that look like DVDs.

Don't see how that helps date the pics... If we knew the release date of that vid, it'd just tell us the pic was taken sometime AFTER that date!

[Paulo]

The white thing is a Simpsons video! Its obviously just a living room... hmm. The things under that look like DVDs.

Don't see how that helps date the pics... If we knew the release date of that vid, it'd just tell us the pic was taken sometime AFTER that date!

Well thats interesting as someone must of had that in their house!

Well if we could date that tape we would know they would of developed it some time before/after the M2 was on the road to the dump!

That would be nice... Seeing as its DC D2 story but its meant to be a whole new developent after that M2 version. . .

[GaijinPunch]

gaijinPunch, love the new layout of your site. Much easier to get around now :)


Thanks! I aim to please.

About those Shenmue vids -- is that from the "What's Shenmue" video? (Not the game)

[sayin999]

Greatsaintlouis i haven't seen jersey girl yet. I'm debating it as it is a bit of a different style of movie for a smith movie. I will most likely wait till it comes out on dvd (by then clerks 10 aniversery will be on dvd) :smt043. But smith ussally does make a great movie either way. Thanks for the compliment on the avatar. So far this post is going pretty good.

[Yakumo]

About those Shenmue vids -- is that from the "What's Shenmue" video? (Not the game)


THe video which the above picture came from is taken from a Japanese beta of Shenmue not the Shenmue video. THese beta movies were once available to see on Japanese TV when the showed some Shenmue confrence back in 1998 or early 1999. I have more shots of Ryo looking through some keys and some unknown places and characters.

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

Kewl deal. I like that stuff.

Similar things:
-There's a video on the OLD Sonic Team PSO site. They show a lot of stuff like enemies that only show up in Forrest 2 in Forrest 1, some shit from the caves in the Forrest, and a totally different (rather crappy) city. Video quality is awful considering it comes from Sega.

-I can't believe nobody has downloaded the Saturn Chelnov video. Yeah, it's a lame game, but I thought everyone here lived for beta stuff. :)

-Something I paid way too much for:
http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=monikanoshiro

[Yakumo]

I can't believe nobody has downloaded the Saturn Chelnov video. Yeah, it's a lame game, but I thought everyone here lived for beta stuff. :)

I tried to download it but I couldn't :( maybe an upload to my FTP would be possible?

Yakumo

[Johnny]

More pics of Rev Limit

http://samsworld.com/n64/games/rev-limit/preview.html

[filler]

I remember downloading some videos of Silent Hill 2 before it was released in the US that included footage that did not make it into the game. One was the pyramid head dragging a body algong the floor and I think holding it up like he was trying to tear it in two.

Does anyone know if there was an early beta with different scenes, or any other info on scrapped ideas for the game? In truth, I found SH2 to be disspointing compared to the first one. I guess I am hoping to find evidence that it was taking a more frightening/interesting direction in it's early stages.

[TheDeathcoaster]

Sorry to go OT, but am I the only person who liked Silent Hill 2 more than Silent Hill? (and Silent Hill 3). I never liked Silent Hill when I first played it...though with Silent Hill 2 I fell in love with it immediatley ^_^ And Silent Hill 3 was just kinda lame to me.

[xdaniel]

i'm sure you all know them already but anyway...: http://zso.krahs-emag.com/beta/screenshots.html - Zelda Ocarina of Time shots @ ZSO

btw: ever tried out the "Beta Quest" code or similar codes?

[wombat]

nice page!, there is some interesting info on that website... I wonder why devloppers don't put the beta codes and/or levels on the final products as kind of 'extra' for the fans.

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

Hey, I played this game on the Mega Drive, I think it's pretty cool. Do you have the Saturn beta?


PD



http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/video_index.cgi

The first one is a sampler (from a playable beta version) of Atomic Runner Chelnov for the Saturn, which was eventually axed (for good reason).

[xdaniel]

if you don't like it, don't click the link. But anyway... I've just put together a small page with early screenshots and information about Pokemon Gold and Silver. It's not finished yet, some things may be wrong, quite some shots are missing but i'll hopefully get all that done tomorrow...
http://members.aol.com/xdany87/pkmngs/

[GaijinPunch]

Hey, I played this game on the Mega Drive, I think it's pretty cool. Do you have the Saturn beta?

Yes, I do own a beta of this game.
It's kind of a turd... but one that not many people have, so I'm kinda proud of it.

[Yakumo]

Take a look at these early Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 shots

http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf1.jpghttp://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf1b.jpg
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf1c.jpghttp://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf1d.jpg
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf1e.jpghttp://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf1f.jpg
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf2.jpghttp://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/vf-his-vf2b.jpg

Some nice shots, don't you think? :smt033

Yakumo

[Johnny]

Cool Yakumo! those early VF pics reminded me of something.

I think i have a edition of UK's SEGA POWER talking about a 32X port of Daytona USA.

Gonna have to check.

[Yakumo]

I remember that news too. Hope you can find the mag Johnny.

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

There are quite a few more pics of that VF1 stuff. The www.virtuafighter.com (a place where my post count is way to freakin' high) crew generally knows. Before the release, there was a middle eastern character called "Shiba" and there was no Akira. Other differences were mainly names. Kage = Yagyu, Sarah = Sara, Jeffry = Dural, Lau = Yao.

http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=84674&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1
Creed is a nice guy, and has a scan of just about any VF media ever printed. (I'm sure shots from this mag as well) If you wanted some for segagagadomain.com, he could probably help out.

[Yakumo]

Thanks a lot for the link GaijinPunch. I'll head on over there now.

Yakumo

[wombat]

:prayer: wow yakumo, greats VF pics!.. the ingame quality also looks pretty good!

[sayin999]

I was on you ftp last night yakumo and noticed that the vf history movies are no longer there. Is there a chance they were tooken down for space reasons?

[sayin999]

well this site had a ton of beta pics for 64,cube, and dreamcast. heres the linkhttp://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mononline/unseen/unseenhome.htm

[Tachikoma]

Wow, some excellent pictures of BioHazard 0 on the N64!

[Yakumo]

Yeah, sorry sayin999, I had to delete the VF History movies to make space on the FTP for newr movies. Talking of which, there's a new "Yakumo home made" movie coming soon. Last week the wife and I went to see the Sakura trees. While there she had this crazy idea of having her dog do some sort of guide for all of the guys here at ASSEMbler. So what we have is a video of the Sakura trees with the dog giving a commentary :smt017 Well, it's really my wife but anyway, moybe worth a download. I know that Importaku has seen the MPEG 2 version that I made. Yet to find out what he thought of it though :smt043 I'm encoding the AVI DIVX version now.

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

Would like to see that video. Boozing and sakura bring out some weird stuff.

I'm not sure if these are beta pics or not. I picked up a box of shit that was basically a bunch of promo items. Nothing too fantastic in it other than two things. A Sonic Adventure and Shenmue booklet. They're almost LP size, so I can't scan each page in its entirety.

The only date I can find on the Shenmue one is 1998, so I assume it was pre-Shenmue. The funny thing is, there's more Shenmue 2 pics in it, than Shenmue Chapter 1. I've uploaded some of the pics in question. It's been years since I've played either of them, but I'm pretty damn sure there was no images (in 1 or 2) of Shenfua being manhandled by some goons.

I'll post more on Japanese Gaming one day. I'll have to break out the digital camera. Until then, take a look and let me know:

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/bonus/promo/shenmue.jpg

[Yakumo]

GaijinPunch, those pictures are taken from the Project Berkly disc. They aren't actualy from the games of Shenmue.

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

I don't even know what the project berkley disc is, although it sounds somewhat familiar. Care to enlighten me?

The back of it shows some face sculptures they used for some of the characters. Wonder how much those would cost.

[sayin999]

Project Berkley disc is a disc that came with virtua fighter 3 when it was release in japan that shows alot of concept fmvs and art of shenmue. It also has yu suzuki speaking at some points about shenmue.

[GaijinPunch]

Ah, gotcha. I never bought VF3, so didn't see it.
in fact, I was late getting a DC.

[Tachikoma]

I have compiled a load of images of the early P.N.03 game for the 'Cube. The original version had Vanessa with a gun, and she had a few moves/talents missing from the released version. In the early build she could shoot whilst jumping, somersault over enemies (while shooting again). She also had a much better duck feature, she would cling to the walls Solid Snake esque style.

Due to the number of pictures I have hosted them instead of sticking them all here. I have also watermarked them, due to the amount of time it took to get them all together. I didnt really want to do it, but I dont want anyone taking credit for my hard work.

I also have a video of the early build, if anyone with more bandwidth/space than me can host it?

LINK! (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/s.a_ravenhill/pn03-beta.html)

[Yakumo]

So great pics you have collected there Tachikoma. Shame that they took them out of the final release.

Yakumo

[Greatsaintlouis]

Found this pic of the Nintendo PLaystation today, I'm sure everyone has already seen it, but: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~uw7g-bwr/sfc/sfc-cdrom.jpg

[sayin999]

I haven't seen that pic. it looks a bit nice, does anyone know if they ever release pics of the original version of yoshis island?

[Yakumo]

That's a pretty cool looking SFC - CD picture there. I wonder if it's a working proto type?

Yakumo

[AntiPasta]

remember the guy on the old board that said something along the lines of "if you have 3 million yen I could give you a solid lead to a prototype"?
sounded like utter BS but who knows...

[Yakumo]

I have 3 million yen but there's no way in hell I'd give some arse that much money just for being "pointed" in the right direction. I'd want the system.

Yakumo

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

I wonder if this pic is true or fake. I'm sure it wasn't named Playstation at that time.


PD

[Paulo]

I have 3 million yen but there's no way in hell I'd give some arse that much money just for being "pointed" in the right direction. I'd want the system.

Yakumo

oooo look whos a millionare! :smt043

[SilverBolt]

I have 3 million yen but there's no way in hell I'd give some arse that much money just for being "pointed" in the right direction. I'd want the system.

Yakumo

oooo look whos a millionare! :smt043

3 million yen is only: 27,391.70 USD

so that's far from being a millionaire, hell you can't even buy a verry nice car for that kinda money :smt040

[Paulo]

I have 3 million yen but there's no way in hell I'd give some arse that much money just for being "pointed" in the right direction. I'd want the system.

Yakumo

oooo look whos a millionare! :smt043

3 million yen is only: 27,391.70 USD

so that's far from being a millionaire, hell you can't even buy a verry nice car for that kinda money :smt040

Erm since when does it have to be dollars to count?

[Yakumo]

Erm since when does it have to be dollars to count?

True. In my book the only real millioare is someone who owns 1 million pounds !! That's worth a hellof a lot more than 1 million dollars.

Yakumo

[Chrissy P]

http://www.warmech.net/warmech.html has a bunch of Final Fantasy VII,X,XI, Final Fantasy IV nes beta/concept art, and Seiken Densetsu for nes shots which are pretty neat, although they're very hard to see, amongst others. They also ha This site here http://home.earthlink.net/~letrimh/chart.htm has beta screens from Chrono Trigger and pre-art for Chrono Cross...I'd kill to find more on any of those games. I do have in an old magazine beta screens of Seiken Densetsu 2, but I can't find it anywhere sadly.

[CHAZumaru]

I wonder if this pic is true or fake. I'm sure it wasn't named Playstation at that time.


One of the very few sure things about Sony+Nintendo's CD-ROM drive for the Super Famicom is that it was indeed already named PlayStation at the time. The name PlayStation has been used for the Sony/Nintendo thing since at least 1991.

[GaijinPunch]

Saving money in Japan is kind of the cool thing to do. This is a land where people that make $30k USD/year can save $10k of it. The women are the best at this. The smartest thing the man can do is give it to his wife. :) I know, it's shocking -- seems that saving money in the west is so out of style.

Back to the topic, I just missed an auction a Saturn Magazine that had an announcement of Biohazard 2 for the Saturn. Not sure if it had pics or not.

Here's some more stuff at JG that wasn't released. It's been there a while, just never pointed it out.
Oh, My Goddess (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=superfamicom&base=ahmegamisama) for the SFC
Strider Hiryuu (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=famicom&base=striderhiryuu) for the Famicom
Another Strider Hiryuu (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=famicom&base=striderhiryuub) for the Famicom (yes, I know it was released in the US)
Shonen Majutsushi Indy (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=famicom&base=shonenmajutsushiindi)
Merry-go-round (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=megadrive&base=merrygoround) for the MegaDrive

Monica no Shiro (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=monikanoshiro) for the Saturn, which I *THINK* I posted here before, but can't remember.... too lazy to search through the thread. Sue me.

There's a couple more hiding in there I think as well.

[Yakumo]

Saving money in Japan is kind of the cool thing to do. This is a land where people that make $30k USD/year can save $10k of it. The women are the best at this. The smartest thing the man can do is give it to his wife. :) I know, it's shocking -- seems that saving money in the west is so out of style

That's right Gaijin Punch. My wife takes all of our money (her's & My salary) then sorts outthe savings, food money, bills etc.. All I get is 35'000 yen per month for spends. Guess I'm lucky though since many of my Japanese friends get 20 to 30'000 a month.

Oh, thanks for the cool links too :smt023

Yakumo

[AntiPasta]

I wonder if this pic is true or fake. I'm sure it wasn't named Playstation at that time.


One of the very few sure things about Sony+Nintendo's CD-ROM drive for the Super Famicom is that it was indeed already named PlayStation at the time. The name PlayStation has been used for the Sony/Nintendo thing since at least 1991.

Hmm... wouldnt "PlayStation" be trademarked then? Nowadays companies seem to register brand/product names years in advance just to make sure, it strikes me as odd that Sony got away with using the name without a connection to Nintendo.

[Tachikoma]

I heard ages ago that Ninty tried to claim damages for Sony using the Playstation name, as it was indeed the final name for the SNES CD thing. The court ruled in favour of Sony though because it was them who did all the ground work on the project, and the name wasnt copyrighted at the time.

If you do a google you can find tons of information about Nintendo's court history, they seem to sue someone every week for something or another.

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

From what I remember hearing, the name 'Playstation' was registered by Yamaha. Sony decided they wanted the name and brought the rights to it from Yamaha for a rediculous amount of cash??

Or is this all lies?

[Dex]

If I remember correctly, Nintendo worked with Sony to develop the CD-ROM add-on for the SNES that would be able to play SNES CD's. The deal also gave Sony the rights to produce a stand-alone machine that was compatible with SNES cartridges and CD's and possibly also another SONY propriety format.

The stand-alone machine was supposed to be called the Playstation and I think that's what's shown in that prototype pic. So the Playstation name was never meant to be the name of the CD-ROM add-on but rather Sony's own SNES-compatible system.

Nintendo probably got cold feet and withdrew from the deal as they realized Sony tried to use them to get into the videogame market. I personally think this is the main reason the SNES CD was never released rather than Nintendo's aversion to the CD-format in general.

[TheDeathcoaster]

I understand...kinda like the Panisonic Q-Cube name ^_^

And about the Nintendo/Sony stuff...I thought it was something to do with Nintendo backstabbing Sony and talking Phillips about making the CD addon with them instead (which resulted in the various Nintendo brand CDI games). Sony didn't like this very much and decided to do the project on their own and cut Nintendo out of the deal.

[Dex]

Yeah, I guess it could be seen as backstabbing since the deal was seen as done by Sony. I think all these announcements happened at a trade show. Sony was talking about their machine and then suddenly Nintendo held a press conference about the deal with Philips instead.

I think by this time, the Mega CD had already flopped and Nintendo no longer felt the preassure to produce a CD-machine of their own. I wonder what would've been different if they did. It's likely that Square would have produced FFVII for it, right?

[GaijinPunch]

I believe both of these games were unreleased.

Explode Star (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=megadrive&base=explodestar) by Masaya
Junction (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=megadrive&base=junction) by Micronet USA. Perhaps it was released in the states?

[Yakumo]

I believe both of these games were unreleased.

Explode Star (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=megadrive&base=explodestar) by Masaya
Junction (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.cgi?system=megadrive&base=junction) by Micronet USA. Perhaps it was released in the states?

Sorry mate but both were released. Explode Star looks very much like Trampoline Terror that was released in the US. Junction was released in Japan and the US.

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

I know there's one I put up there recently that wasn't... just can't for the life of me remember what the hell it was. As much as I played the Genesis back in the day as a young tike in Texas, I was kinda lower-middle class at best... means I got 3-4 game a year. Don't know much about the MD... I'll figure out one day.

[Nintendomad]

The only picture I know of that is real on the whole sfc cd addon situation is one leaked to egm and printed in one issue of their mag.It showed an adaptor that fitted into the sfc similar to the family computer one for the disk system.IT IS THE ONLY PIC TO be verified by NCL.Send that other pic to Sony and see what they say.You can also dig out all the various patents if you have the time and energy to do so.There are even patents for thinggs like adding more ram to the satellaview and stuff.

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Here's a PC Engine CD game that was never released - Space Fantasy Zone.

Screenshots are under the 'Omake' section.

http://pcenginebible.roarvgm.com/HTML_Games/Space_Fantasy_Zone.htm

And here's someone selling it on Ebay. Extremely gutted, I'm skint for the next 3 weeks, and I want this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=8103620799&rd=1

[GaijinPunch]

Here's a PC Engine CD game that was never released - Space Fantasy Zone.

There's about 20 screenshots and a review of it on Japanese Gaming in the reviews section. Also two flyers of it in the flyers section.

[Paulo]

There was a dreamcast game shown very very early on (the weeks when the first announced it) called Drones... Theres a few pictures around of it but yeah it looked cool! Ill dig some up soonish today.

Another edit... going to www.dronez.com shows that the game did come out on the pc as a tech demo with some gfx cards. Also a demo u can download. Its also coming to xbox. I have lots of pictures as good as these of the game on the dreamcast shown about the same time it was announced. Looked very good!

here:

http://dcmedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/dronez/bg03.jpg

http://dcmedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/dronez/bg06.jpg

http://dcmedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/dronez/bg01.jpg

http://dcmedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/dronez/bg02.jpg

http://dcmedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/dronez/bg08.jpg

http://dcmedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/dronez/bg07.jpg

http://dcmedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/dronez/bg10.jpg

[GaijinPunch]

They look great, except for that stupid fucking logo that I see on just about every image on the internet --- even stuff they steal from other sites.

[Nintendomad]

I am nearly 100% that that is just an artists impression of the Super Family Computer Cd rom add on device/all in one console.
The only real photos I ever saw leaked as I have said before are off the Ram adaptor and of the actual discs themselves in the cd caddy holders.
The actual system saw by the same journo said it looked identical to the Satellaview but had a small gap at the front to place the CD carts.(Looked like a DD disk but with a cd inside and much thinner.)

[virtual alan]

Found this pic of the Nintendo PLaystation today, I'm sure everyone has already seen it, but: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~uw7g-bwr/sfc/sfc-cdrom.jpg

Missed this earlier...but I have never seen that picture.

The one that always gets shown is the one with the SNES and a disk drive underneath

http://outerspace.terra.com.br/retrospace/materias/consoles/imagens/parte26/snes_cd-rom.jpg

[Yakumo]

Here are a few shots of the Japanese or should I say the western (Never released) version of Nipenman Maru by Enix. I don't even know if this was released in Japan. I've never seen it in shops.

Just noticed that I've spelt the game's name wrong on the screen shots :Hangman:

OK, Notice that the title screen is in Japanese.
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/ninpoman-0.jpg

But look, the text is in English apart from a mistake on which type of text to use :smt017
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/ninpoman-1.jpg

In Game Shots
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/ninpoman-2.jpghttp://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/ninpoman-3.jpg
http://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/ninpoman-4.jpghttp://www.gamingpics.servehttp.com/ninpoman-5.jpg

All the speech is in Japanese with most of the text even the story being In English. The game also has really bad controlls with a D-Pad making the character walk backwards at times. It may be different with the NiGHTS pad.

Yakumo

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

Yakumo, do you have the ISO of this game?

[Yakumo]

yes I do but you know the rule about links to ISO files.

Oh, by the way I added something cool to my FTP. Why not have a look?

Yakumo

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Seems there were gonna be two Famicom game collections released for the PCEngine. A 5 in 1 and a 6 in 1. They were developed by Image, but only got to prototype stage.

http://www.pcecp.com/index.php?mode=catalog&action=info&gameid=953

http://www.pcecp.com/index.php?mode=catalog&action=info&gameid=952

Both contain Super Mario Bros. Now what were Nintendo doing even thinking about licencing Mario and DonkeyKong for a competing system??? Or are these unreleased because they were unlicenced and stopped by Nintendo? Playing SMB on my PCE would be damn cool...

[Calpis]

They were (Japanese) pirates simply put but not made by Games Express/Hacker International.

[Omar]

They were (Japanese) pirates simply put but not made by Games Express/Hacker International.

Image is a group of people in Helsinki, Finland. They made the compilation on the PCE.

What I got today :
http://www.smspower.org/misc/super_basketball.jpg

[SuperFunkNinjaYoshiiKun]

Ok, not sure if this is the right section, but still....

NEC released an adaptor so you could plug your PCEngine into your PC, and use the PCE Super CD-ROM2 drive as a PC CD rom drive. I suppose this was because PC CD drives were well expensive back then.

The cable plugged into your PC (not sure what socket?), and the other end had a HuCard on it....

Prototype - http://members.shaw.ca/turbo2k/images/hardware/duointlink2.jpg

Actual unit - http://members.shaw.ca/turbo2k/images/hardware/pceintlink.jpg

[GaijinPunch]

Wow... what a mess!
Reminds me of that TD Modem (forgot the name... Power Link or something) that was never released.

There was a proto on Yahoo Japan about 2 years ago... went for a small fortune.

[AntiPasta]

a similar thing was done with the CD32, they released a cable that allowed one to use a CD32 as a cd-rom drive on an Amiga :smt043

[Anonymous]

Damn! If I would knew that before about this site.....
I worked a few years ago as an video games editor in germany... and i had some MCD-beta version (owned some Betas from Core Design - Eidos now)
Shit and i throwed it all away 2 years ago....ahhhhh.
Oh Hello y'all. My first post. :snipe:

[howhigh]

http://gamesweb.com/konsolen/screenshots/detail.php?item_id=19801

x-box flight-sim........think Konami never released it....

[AntiPasta]

Damn! If I would knew that before about this site.....
I worked a few years ago as an video games editor in germany... and i had some MCD-beta version (owned some Betas from Core Design - Eidos now)
Shit and i throwed it all away 2 years ago....ahhhhh.
Oh Hello y'all. My first post. :snipe:

Aaaagh! You've got something to explain to St. Peter one day :smt043

[GaijinPunch]

Looks like I get to revive a dead thread:

Dragonknight for Saturn (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=dragonknight)

Dragonknight 4 for Saturn (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=dragonknight4)

Dreamcast Mock-up controllers (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=dreamcastmockups)

Sega Saturn Phoenix (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=ssphoenix) -- don't tell me this was released

Sega Saturn Word Pro (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=segasaturnwordpro) -- released, but still cool.

[zappenduster]

http://gamesweb.com/konsolen/screenshots/detail.php?item_id=19801

x-box flight-sim........think Konami never released it....

didnt know about that sim but on the konami site it says its released us and japan also europe version i think

you can even order it from amazon.com

[Guilty_Penguin]

ICO PSOne Version:
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/7/0,1311,i=70970,00.jpg
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/7/0,1311,i=70969,00.jpg

Here's the article:
http://www.1up.com/article2/0,2053,1553979,00.asp

I loved ICO. I had no idea there was a PSX version of it that was in production.

[AntiPasta]

Looks like I get to revive a dead thread:

Dragonknight for Saturn (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=dragonknight)

Dragonknight 4 for Saturn (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=dragonknight4)

Dreamcast Mock-up controllers (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=dreamcastmockups)

Sega Saturn Phoenix (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=ssphoenix) -- don't tell me this was released

Sega Saturn Word Pro (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/promo_information.cgi?&base=segasaturnwordpro) -- released, but still cool.

I get a load of Perl (at least, that's what I think it is) when trying to view that using Firefox... that can't be the intention I hope :smt030

[Taemos]

Same here.

[Yakumo]

me too and I'm using IE 6 :smt009

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/%7Eshmups/shmupsforum/viewtopic.php?t=9658

Yes, it's perl. I'm really happy that IGN/Gamespy has decided to share my Perl code with everyone. :(

[Anthaemia.]

Ico for the PlayStation? I can only hope that this will surface one day, along with the other known titles that eventually found their home on the PS2, such as The Getaway...

[Segafreak_NL]

Damn! If I would knew that before about this site.....
I worked a few years ago as an video games editor in germany... and i had some MCD-beta version (owned some Betas from Core Design - Eidos now)
Shit and i throwed it all away 2 years ago....ahhhhh.
Oh Hello y'all. My first post. :snipe:

Neon?

[Topic Archive]

Here u go, six 'in-game' screen shots from the game 'Lamborghini'.

The game was developed for the Beta Live! program.

It's 100% in content, graphics are lovely, car handling/crash damage and general 'real-world' physics are great.

A really nice game that only runs from a 'Beta Debug Kit' Kernal.


www.oldengineer.info


:smt023

[Paulo]

The game was developed for the Beta Live! program.

erm what do you mean by that?

[Topic Archive]

The game was developed for the Beta Live! program.

erm what do you mean by that?


Hmmm, it's simple, the game version itself was 'built' specifically to test the Live! network service.

...Of course it runs just like any other game, online or offline, apart from the fact that it will ONLY run on a Live! Beta Debug Kit!

[Paulo]

Hmmm, it's simple, the game version itself was 'built' specifically to test the Live! network service.

Oh ok so just that version... i was about to say this game was almost released and there i have a demo from a magazine of it!

[Topic Archive]

Yeah, this beta release has EVERY conceivable option and content, coded in and working.

...Had a retail version ever been released it would probably have less content and less options than the beta release.

:smt023

[wombat]

thanks for the pics, its still such an shame that the game was canned.. such an good title :( ...

[Topic Archive]

thanks for the pics, its still such an shame that the game was canned.. such an good title :( ...

I totally agree.

It is sad because the game not only looks good its a real tough challenge.

...In championship mode you have to start with a 'basic' Lamborghini and race, if you don't win, you don't earn much money, if you damage your motor you have to fix it up, this costs money. It's very easy to run out of cash and a real challenge to earn and keep cash, especially when your car can do 200mph and you hit a brick wall ;-)

[wombat]

today I recieved an bunch of xbox demo discs.. and yes also nr 14.... with the lamborghini demo on it :prayer: ..thats probally the closest I can get to that game :smt022

[Topic Archive]

Hi wombat, as a matter of interest, what size is the Lamborghini demo in mb or gb?

[wombat]

Hi wombat, as a matter of interest, what size is the Lamborghini demo in mb or gb? It isn't possible to read (well at least RETAIL discs) on your pc. You'll only see an xbox booting movie (dvd)... its some strange disc structure the PC doesnt know what to do with it.

[Topic Archive]

Hi wombat, as a matter of interest, what size is the Lamborghini demo in mb or gb? It isn't possible to read (well at least RETAIL discs) on your pc. You'll only see an xbox booting movie (dvd)... its some strange disc structure the PC doesnt know what to do with it.


Rofl, yeah I know that m8, I meant bung it in your Xbox then look at it in boxplorer/whatever app u prefer, or ftp it back to your P.C.

...Unless of course your Xbox 'aint modded!!!!!!!

[Taemos]

Hi wombat, as a matter of interest, what size is the Lamborghini demo in mb or gb? It isn't possible to read (well at least RETAIL discs) on your pc. You'll only see an xbox booting movie (dvd)... its some strange disc structure the PC doesnt know what to do with it.


Rofl, yeah I know that m8, I meant bung it in your Xbox then look at it in boxplorer/whatever app u prefer, or ftp it back to your P.C.

...Unless of course your Xbox 'aint modded!!!!!!!

Is the game not executable in a modded Xbox? I actually want to play it now :no (<-- :smt043 I love that smiley).

[wombat]

well oldengineer, my xbox is not modified... so I can't check it with my xbox.... although I would modify my xbox in an heartbeat if the full version of Lamborghini was availible on the web :smt083

[Topic Archive]

Damn :smt022 , u gotta mod your box wombat, I'm curious to learn the size of that demo :)

:drinkers:

:smt023

...Have u not got a m8 nearby with a modded Xbox that u can view your disc in????????

:smt045

[wombat]

Damn :smt022 , u gotta mod your box wombat, I'm curious to learn the size of that demo :)

:drinkers:

:smt023

...Have u not got a m8 nearby with a modded Xbox that u can view your disc in????????

:smt045
An collegue of my has an modified xbox, were probally having an 'gamenight' next week (on saturday)... Then I'll pop my demo disc in and check how big it is. I'll keep you updated

[sayin999]

wow i cant belive a really old thread of mine has been revived.

[GigaDrive]

1989 prototype-demo of 'Dragonfly' for the Super Famicom

http://tinypic.com/27gc3
http://tinypic.com/27gh3


Dragonfly would later become Pilotwings

[GigaDrive]

supposedly a picture of Strider for the SuperGrafx

http://lscmainframe.topcities.com/images/screenshots/sgx1.jpg

though possibly this is just the arcade version.




IMSA Racing for M2
http://m2-x.hp.infoseek.co.jp/images/racere3a.jpg
http://m2-x.hp.infoseek.co.jp/images/racere3b.jpg
http://rweimar.free.fr/img123.gif
[http://rweimar.free.fr/img124.gif


Power Crystal for M2
http://m2-x.hp.infoseek.co.jp/images/pcrystalc.jpg
http://m2-x.hp.infoseek.co.jp/images/pcrystale.jpg
http://rweimar.free.fr/img121.gif


more D2 on M2
http://rweimar.free.fr/img138.gif
http://rweimar.free.fr/img137.gif
http://rweimar.free.fr/img136.gif
http://rweimar.free.fr/img135.gif


Phantasy Star IV with 3D dungeons
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem4.jpg

intro scenes planned for PSIV that got cut out.
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem1.jpg
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem2.jpg
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem3.jpg

one of the first-ever screens of Phantasy Star IV, not found in the final game
http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/segaart/ps4quad.gif

[GigaDrive]

Moon Dancer - Megadrive graphic text adventure by ????
http://tinypic.com/28geq

Dando - Megadrive action/rpg(?) by Treco
http://tinypic.com/28gfp


Battle Mission - Megadrive shoot em up ala Operation Wolf by Renovation
http://tinypic.com/28ghy
http://tinypic.com/28ghl

Land Buster - Megadrive side scrolling tank game by Seismic
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6042/landbuster9yj.jpg


horizontally scrolling version of Joe Montana Football by Mediagenic, apparently planned to be based on Hard Yardage.
http://tinypic.com/28gsj

(the released version was vertically scrolling, developed by Park Place, developers of Madden



cool title screen of Megadrive Shadow Dancer not in final game
http://tinypic.com/2751e

[Yakumo]

Some great shots there guys !! Keep them coming. I remember seeing that Dragonfly game years ago thinking it was a tech demo by Namco. Now I know it was Pilotwings. The eary Mega Drive stuff was also cool. I'd love to see that Land Buster in action.

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

Those Phantasy Star shots are actually in Phantasy Star Collection for the Saturn if I'm not mistaken (or at least somewhere... as I've seen 'em before). The one of PSIV 3D dungeons is definitely a beta... there's some info on it over at www.phantasy-star.net. The last pic, w/ the 4 characters, I know I saw printed in a US magazine a LOOONG time ago (before it came out in Japan even) but thought it was also at the end of the game maybe?

Strider: I'm convinced it's the Arcade version. I'm still looking for some type of real confirmation that the SGX version got out of the announcement stage, to no avail.

[GigaDrive]

The last pic, w/ the 4 characters, I know I saw printed in a US magazine a LOOONG time ago (before it came out in Japan even) but thought it was also at the end of the game maybe?

indeed you did. EGM August 1992. it was not in the ending of the game or anywhere in the PS IV that was released.

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

Phantasy Star IV with 3D dungeons
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem4.jpg


This is the only pic of the 3D dungeon version of PS4. I wonder if the developers really wrote some code for it or is just a mockup? Anyway, it's soooo cool.


intro scenes planned for PSIV that got cut out.
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem1.jpg
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem2.jpg
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem3.jpg
one of the first-ever screens of Phantasy Star IV, not found in the final game
http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/segaart/ps4quad.gif

I remember seeing all those pics on magazines. I tought it was so cool that intro showing the older games.
The last pic is from the original game idea, where the developers would bring Nei from PS2 and Wren from PS3, too bad the idea was scrapped.


PD

[haljordan]

1989 prototype-demo of 'Dragonfly' for the Super Famicom

http://tinypic.com/27gc3
http://tinypic.com/27gh3


Dragonfly would later become Pilotwings

Are those consoles on the last panel the released ones? Even tough it's a small picture, I don't remember seeing those around.

That last picture(the four characters) was also on SuperGames, brazilian magazine, which did a nice "preview"of PS4.

[GigaDrive]

I don't know about the smaller white one (8-bit Famicom). as I have never seen a famicom that looks like that.

the larger one, the Super Famicom prototype, was certainly not released. the Super Famicom shell went through 3 or 4 changes before release.

[Calpis]

That was intended to be the AV Famicom but when the SFC was released in a different design, they decided to redesign the case for the 1993 release. I think a matching AV FC and SFC would make a very sexy pair. Except, the Famicom could stand to loose a little weight, theres no reason for the case to be that huge.

[GigaDrive]

oh yes, I found the other Phantasy Star IV beta/prototype/concept picture I was looking for

http://www.imagepup.com/up/MiAz_1180463537_darkforce.jpg

this was the other picture that was in EGM's first coverage of PSIV in the August 1992 EGM.

above picture and the 4 charactor one
http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/segaart/ps4quad.gif

can both be found in here
http://nestral.topcities.com/gallery/egm/egm37.jpg

[GigaDrive]

'Ghouls And Ghosts 3' for Super Famicom from 1990, a prototype / alpha / early version of ChouMakaiMura aka
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts in 1991. this is from EGM Number 17, December 1990, page 48.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6316/gng38za.jpg


larger closer-in images of the same proto, thanks to Chris Covell's awesome website (http://disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secrets1.html)


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2594/gg318oe.jpg

notice the little plant creatures with teeth coming out of the demon towers. the blue vase. the demon-cavemen with clubs, and in the foreground, the wood stump with rope tied around it. all this was missing in Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts.

__________________________________________________ _____________________________________________

here's EGM's first main preview of Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts, from the July 1991 issue, when the game seemed more final.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1406/supergngpreview726x952cc0.jpg

notice Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts has changed somewhat from the
small December 1990 EGM preview of 'Ghouls N Ghosts 3'.

[Yakumo]

Ghouls 'N Ghosts 3 for SFC in 1990 before it became Super Ghouls ' N Ghosts / ChouMakaiMura in 1991

http://24.247.197.84:81/~ccovell/1990/ChouMakaiMura.jpg


Great images GigaDrive. I'd love to see that proto in action. I wonder if those ape looking zombies can still be found in the released version? I know that in Final Fight on the Super Famicom you can see all sorts of goodies that weren't even in the game such as GUY !! Just take a look at the code through a hex editor or something.

Yakumo

[GigaDrive]

beta or simulation pictures of 3DO M2 first person shooter

http://www.red-mercury.net/stuff/m2fpsdemo/M2FPS1.jpg
http://www.red-mercury.net/stuff/m2fpsdemo/M2FPS2.jpg
http://www.red-mercury.net/stuff/m2fpsdemo/M2FPS3.jpg

these are almost assuredly pre-rendered on SGI or even realtime on SGI, and not actual M2 hardware.

(note: this is most likely NOT the M2 dungeon demo I am looking for)

[wombat]

I've found an whole bunch of 'lamborghini' screenshots (unreleased xbox game) I'll try to make some space and upload them this weekend :-)

[Topic Archive]

Hey wombat, are those screenshots the ones I captured a while back?

[wombat]

no it are screenshots that were handed out to the press while the games was still hot and running. (strange idea that this game was origionally in development for the dreamcast!)

[gamergary]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but here are some beta pictures for certain famicom games such a Ghosts N Goblins and Megaman 3. http://www.spini2k.com/chrisc/

At the bottom click one of the links with kirby next to it and you get to see pictures and explanations of what has been removed or changed.

[Yakumo]

Great link gamergary, thanks for sharing. :smt023

Yakumo

[gamergary]

I'm try to get some famicom tsuushin issues and I can probably get some good scans if anybody wants to see any.

[Yakumo]

I'm try to get some famicom tsuushin issues and I can probably get some good scans if anybody wants to see any.

Yes please :smt045 Beta or early shots of games are interesting.

Yakumo

[GigaDrive]

I'd like to see some shots of the unreleased Mega CD version of Y's IV

[Li Wang]

I'd like to see some shots of the unreleased Mega CD version of Y's IV

Me too, but none ever got released. Which sadly doesn't inspire much hope about it actually being very far into development at all when half the team is Sega.

[Yakumo]

Here's a few Beta Famicom game shots kindly scanned by gamergary for ASSEMbler :smt023

BIO FORCE APE
http://img176.exs.cx/img176/8738/fc-bioforceape-beta.jpg

MONSTER PARTY
http://img176.exs.cx/img176/44/fc-monsterparty-beta.jpg

MANIC MINER (May not be a beta version)
http://img176.exs.cx/img176/3729/fc-manicmansion-beta.jpg

Yakumo

[sayin999]

Manic miner is actually the japanese version of manic manision, however jaleco decided to make its own version of the game for japan instead of using the one lucas arts orignaly made that was released here in the U.S.(and also europe as well i think) Whats odd if the fact that jaleco bothered to make their own version when really they were the ones who published it in america and i think europe as well. .

[ccovell]

Here's a few Beta Famicom game shots kindly scanned by gamergary for ASSEMbler

Nice to see those mags scanned in high-quality. :-)

If you go to my page at the link below, there are several pages linked at the bottom with (low-quality, sorry!) pics of unreleased and other beta games. Enjoy!

[gamergary]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but here are some beta pictures for certain famicom games such a Ghosts N Goblins and Megaman 3. http://www.spini2k.com/chrisc/

At the bottom click one of the links with kirby next to it and you get to see pictures and explanations of what has been removed or changed.

I posted it before chris but you changed the server for the secret page. Here are 2 more pictures from the famicom maniac mansion that are different from the nes version. The statue is in the first picture and the second picture, the arcade marquees look scribbled instead of actually readable in the nes version. http://home.gwi.net/~jamoreau/gary/

[retro]

Someone made a game called Manic Miner???!?!?! Err, is that allowed?

Nice to see some respect for Matthew Smith et al. :smt009

[ASSEMbler]

Man,.. I want to some of those games so bad.

[retro]

You want to what some of those games, Kev?

Play? Get hold of? Burn? Hump? :P

[ASSEMbler]

I say we do a fight club style attack on all the games companies for their betas.

[wombat]

I say we do a fight club style attack on all the games companies for their betas.
I'm in :smt033

[MD]

Is it me or does the girl on the right in the picture of Phantasy Star 1 - 1987 on the last page look a lot like grown up Arle from the Puyo Puyo games (specificially the Waku Waku Puyo Puyo Dungeon game)?

As a side note, Treco and Sammy share the same Sega developer number are these the same company or did the former by the latter?

[GaijinPunch]

Here's some scans of an old ass PC-Engine catalogue I had laying around:

Click me (http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~japangaming/flyer_information.php?system=pcengine&base=pcengin eofficialcatalogue94)

Looking at 3rd and 5th page, you'll see pics of FX Fighter (a 3D game), a 3D version of Team Innocent, and a 3D pic of some other game. Obviously, the PC-FX doesn't do polygons, but at one point was apparently going to.

I actually sent REALLY high res scans of this stuff to Aaron Nanto about 2 years ago, but never saw them on pcenginefx.com. If there's any interest, I might translate the 2-3 pages on the "upcoming" PCFX and post it at JG.

[Yakumo]

Here are some early and unreleased Saturn game screens that I found yesterday while looking through some old magazines.

SONIC XTREME
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/5770/sonicxtreme15pl.jpg
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/4743/sonicxtreme21uc.jpg

LAST BRONX
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/6536/satbetalastbronx6ri.jpg

GOIKEN MUYOU
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/8062/satbetagoikenmuyou11xi.jpg
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/7915/satbetagoikenmuyou21gs.jpg

ROCKMAN ADVENTURE
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/1561/satbetarockmanadventure6bx.jpg

X2
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/4572/satbetax20fn.jpg

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

I never played Goiken Muyou (or much of Last Bronx for that matter). What's different about those pics?

[AntiPasta]

I never played Goiken Muyou (or much of Last Bronx for that matter). What's different about those pics?

I'd say they're from an older version.

[Yakumo]

I never played Goiken Muyou (or much of Last Bronx for that matter). What's different about those pics?

The Goiken Muyou pictures look nothing like the final game. The shots that I posted have backgrounds that aren't in the final game plus they look so empty. The character models also look less detailed. I'll see if I can find some pictures of the released game or maybe just do a google images search. The Last Bronks image is from an early build were they tested out the lighting and shading. The official British Sega Saturn magazine did a cool feature that showed Grace's tits from Vighting Vipers as plain ploygons, then with the lighting and finally with shading. The feature may have been in one of those saturn magazines I sold to somebody here about 4 months ago.

Yakumo

[Anthaemia.]

Yakumo, even though your Sonic X-Treme screenshots seem to be scanned, they're of a brilliant quality - thanks for sharing these! Also, footage of the Last Bronx wireframe tech demo (sadly, not direct-feed) was included on Sega Flash 4. However, I don't really know if your picture is from the arcade original or the Saturn conversion, but Official Sega Saturn Magazine posted the first Saturn images as the game - in the form of character movement demos with a wireframe background - was revealed at the same "Power Up" show that AM2 used to announce Fighters Megamix. I hope this information is of some help...

P.S. Goiken Muyou looks very similar to Anarchy In The Nippon. Is this just a co-incidence or was the game known by two different titles, one of which I have only just discovered?

[AntiPasta]

P.S. Goiken Muyou looks very similar to Anarchy In The Nippon. Is this just a co-incidence or was the game known by two different titles, one of which I have only just discovered?

The full name of the game? Goiken Muyou Anarchy In The Nippon ;-)

[Yakumo]

Yakumo, even though your Sonic X-Treme screenshots seem to be scanned, they're of a brilliant quality - thanks for sharing these! Also, footage of the Last Bronx wireframe tech demo (sadly, not direct-feed) was included on Sega Flash 4. However, I don't really know if your picture is from the arcade original or the Saturn conversion, but Official Sega Saturn Magazine posted the first Saturn images as the game - in the form of character movement demos with a wireframe background - was revealed at the same "Power Up" show that AM2 used to announce Fighters Megamix. I hope this information is of some help...

P.S. Goiken Muyou looks very similar to Anarchy In The Nippon. Is this just a co-incidence or was the game known by two different titles, one of which I have only just discovered?

The original pictures that I scanned those Sonic Xtereme shots from were really small but witha bit of filtering I managed to get pretty decent looking big images. The Last Bronx deno is really from the satrurn version. This shot was taken to compare the Saturn Work in Progress version to the actual Arcade. As far as I know this test screen is far earlier than the wire frame background shots that the official Sega Saturn magazine printed.

Yakumo

PS: As Anitipasta said, Goiken Muyou's full title is Goiken Muyou Anarchy The Nippon. Those early screens show different background plus I noticed that the woman is wearing a suit. she doesn't in the final game.

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

Some pics from PSO when in development for the Dreamcast. I took them from some old videos I have laying around:

Old style talk ballons. Way different from the final version
http://img215.exs.cx/img215/5613/000000262el.th.jpg (http://img215.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img215&image=000000262el.jpg)

Pics from a scene where a spaceship flies around some building:
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/3496/000000993wc.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000000993wc.jpg)
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/1295/000021303kf.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000021303kf.jpg)
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/2458/01046la.th.png (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=01046la.png)


Those pics are from the florest level. The interesting bit is the background. There are some black smoke coming out from some kind of volcano. In the video it is easier too see, because we can see the smoking moving up. That would so cool if left on the game.
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/7639/000004450we.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000004450we.jpg)
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/6610/000004483el.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000004483el.jpg)
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/6510/000004543gr.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000004543gr.jpg)
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/6676/000004628co.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000004628co.jpg)

It's hard to see anything on this pic, but it is cool. It shows the Dragon boos from the florest level. The Dragon is walking to the camera and some stones are flying around, like as it breaked a stone wall.
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/7430/000016806ru.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000016806ru.jpg)

These ones show a jungle level, but far different than the florest level.
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/3908/000019141lf.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000019141lf.jpg)
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/4460/000019851vc.th.jpg (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=000019851vc.jpg)

Again, different talk ballons. I can't identify where the players are in the game, because the backgrounds on these pics are not available on the final game:
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/4359/01010br.th.png (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=01010br.png)
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/2145/01029vz.th.png (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=01029vz.png)

This large metal thing is not available on the first PSO game, It was later revealed on PSOv2. But the pic was taken from a early footage of the game, look the different talk ballon.
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/7379/01037ys.th.png (http://img232.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img232&image=01037ys.png)


That's it ;-) sorry for the bad quality pics, I have more but need to find them yet.

Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting (http://www.imageshack.us)


PD

[GaijinPunch]

That video is still available for download on the OLD Phantasy Star site. I made a post about this on the PSO I & II Secret BBS about 2 years ago after stumbling cross it after so long. If you want to look, it's somewhere in here (http://www.sonicteam.com/pso/index2.html) if you look hard enough.... really bad quality though.

Anyways, the "jungle" level is just the forest level... they just had the camera behind some leaves.

Things worth noting:

-Grass Assasin in the Forest
-Hildebear in Forest 1 (they only come out in Forest 2 in the final game)
-Different talk baloons as you mentioned
-Completely different city (that's the stage you said you couldn't recognize)

[Anthaemia.]

I know that the Saturn wireframe images of Last Bronx weren't printed until after the Power Up conference in November 1996, but the video showing similar content (as seen on Sega Flash Vol. 4) predates this by a few months. I never really considered it possible that Saturn footage would appear on a disc mislabelled by Sega as being from the arcade version, but then again I've seen so many people over the years who seriously believed that the clip of VF3 was from the final Saturn build - despite the fact that work on this game wasn't even started until well after this period!

Also, thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding with the full title of Goiken Muyou Anarchy In The Nippon. I've never really been involved with the Saturn importing scene, but this game (albeit under its shorter name) has caught my attention in the past through its coverage in the pages of SSM. Once my financial situation settles down, I'm hoping to add this and some of the more obvious essential import-only releases (Metal Slug, Radiant Silvergun, Elevator Action Returns, X-Men/Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter, Vampire Savior, etc.) to my already sufficient PAL collection. I remember Anarchy... being described as a 3D fighter created by hardcore VF2 fans - KSS, if I'm not mistaken? - who based their character designs more on those of SNK's games with overall graphics not too far below the best AM2 quality. In my opinion, this sounds like a rather good combination and something worth investigating further.

Once again, I'd just again credit Yakumo for taking the time with those Sonic X-Treme images and making the effort to more faithfully represent the game's true appearance. I've spent far too long browsing through Sonic fan sites with small and badly-compressed magazine scans or the same old video footage. I'd also like to point out that it was great to see those early screenshots of Phantasy Star Online (with original speech bubbles), which I last saw back in the UK official Dreamcast magazine. Sadly, when I moved from my parents' house in late 2003 these were not high on my priority list and I have still yet to be reunited with them. However, I did at least get all my consoles and games, plus my entire set of SSM (though unfortunately not the CD-ROM edition of #03). Maybe one day I'll get my existing ODM collection and finally complete it as well? As it is, I'm only lacking the "The Blood Issue" and its demo disc. Being a fan of videogames always means that you're looking for something, and thankfully it looks as if I've still a long way to go in my personal quest...

[ASSEMbler]

Bump. Anyone care if these are sticky or not?

[gamergary]

Yeah this should be a sticky because a lot of people contribute and its cool to be able to see all the cool beta pics first thing.

[sayin999]

Im actually flattered that my old topic has survived this long and is still being a sticky, its nice to have just one thread dedicating to beta pics, i really wish i hadnt thrown away some of my old magazines with 64 beta pics, but i will look through some of my old egms and see what i can post when i get a chance.

[ASSEMbler]

what magazines? maybe someone here has them

[sayin999]

Well one of them was the uk 64 magazine that some newstands here in the U.S. would sell, sadly there were other uk 64 magazines so i cant remember the name of it, i do remember that one of their early issues had a huge 4-5 page preievew on mission impossible when it was in development and at that time the game was a bit different, in fact they said the last battle scene was so spectacular they wouldnt spoil it only hinting at what it was. They even had interviews with the developers themselves. All i can say is the game that came out was not the same as the one prewied so many times. This is even more true when ign interviewed the developers before the game came out in which they said their team baisicly threw away most of what had been developed and made their own from scratch since the polygon rate was way too high as well as some other stuff. Also it did have first shots of star fox 64 where you can notice alot of subtle differences. As for the mario 64 ad with beta pics in it, i do remember it being in an old gamepro magazine. The ad i belive had a white background and marios face was in the middle, with screenshots of the game at the bottom.

[GigaDrive]

take a look at these Magician Lord images

from EGM Number9 article
http://img37.exs.cx/img37/2451/magicianlordproto8zw.jpg

from VG&CE Sept 1990 article
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/8355/magicianlordproto28xl.jpg

from Japanese arcade flyer
http://img71.exs.cx/img71/7256/magicianlordflyerj4lf.jpg


these are possibly beta images of the game.


It seems that the final game has background graphics that are slightly different. I do not recall seeing the pits that are in these shots, in the final game, or the same floor graphics. and the arrangement of the first level is a little different in the final game also, I think.


for those of you that are very familar with Magician Lord and-or have an interest, please compare these images to the released game and tell me what you think.

[Null2009]

how about all those OTHER versions of Biohazard2/Resident evil2 like
BioHazard 2 beta 1.5 (Prototype)

And

BioHazard2 beta 1 / Resident Evil 2 beta 1

[Anthaemia.]

What most people don't seem to realise is that there isn't just one definitive version of the original Biohazard 2. In fact, there were at least two different builds that may be of interest - what we're all really after though is the 75-80% complete PlayStation code, which allegedly lacked only FMV sequences and the second scenario ending. I've known for quite some time that something in the earliest playable stages also existed for the Saturn, and more recently I discovered that Capcom had plans for a completely different story, supposedly based on the experiences of a third survivor (described as either a jouralist or photographer) and set during the same time frame as the more commonly-seen prototype. While only about 15% complete, I'm surprised that Resident Evil purists haven't made more of a conscious effort to also leak this alternate game as well. In my opinion, the PS version of RE1.5 is definitely in the public domain, especially considering how much high quality media is available through magazines or certain fan sites. However, as mentioned in that last post, a large portion of this comes from the later transition phase in BH2's development, when it started to change into the end (and ultimately less satisfying) product.

I'm still not exactly sure how Capcom had the nerve to deny the world such a promising title, especially after claiming that it was too similar to its predecessor. Is the final RE2 really that much of a leap forward from the first? How about the third game, or later spin-offs, even? The only real innovation in this series came years after it had already become stale, with the fourth installment (though I must admit that RE4 has at least rekindled my passion for the otherwise tired Survival Horror genre). Also, if the prototype version of Resident Evil 2 was so terrible and formulaic, how come elements from it have appeared in later games? By hacking data in the many demo discs available, we can now see that virtually all of the laboratory stages were left relatively unchanged in the final game, and it's rumoured that a lot of the Outbreak series owes a huge debt to leftover ideas from the "1.5" era. Also, let's not forget that most of the prototype's development team later worked on Parasite Eve, which includes such items as body armour and hand grenades - both of these were highly touted new features of BH2 in its early incarnation. At this rate, and taking everything into account, it's only a matter of time before something's either leaked or Capcom decides to give this game a legitimate release. Whether they do this in the form of a bonus, port or even a remake is still a mystery, but the point remains exactly the same - what Capcom didn't want the world to see has now become the world's secret, and that's got to be an incentive for something, hasn't it?

[GaijinPunch]

Missile Fighter (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~japangaming/bn_inf.php?type=promo&id=1358). Unreleased PC-Engine SCD2 game.

[Yakumo]

That Missile Fighter reminds me of Valvan on the Saturn by Victor.

Yakumo

[Dot50Cal]

Just a little clarification for the RE/BH 2 titles:

-Biohazard 2 Beta 2 (released on P2p)
-Biohazard 2 Beta 2 VER2 (has extra options in the debug menu activated - Was previously released but noone has it anymore...at least noone willing to share)
-Biohazard 2 Beta 1 (Both Leon and Claire's senario - Only screens were released from people. Someone has it, but isnt sharing.)
-Biohazard 2 Prototype (aka 1.5 - I think we all know the story here. A friend of mine almost had it but the deal fell through when the guy asked his boss if it was alright to make a copy for a friend LOL)

Theres quite a few other beta'ish games out there in the BH/RE universe. Most are almost completely the same except for a few small things. Nothing really worth mentioning besides those above.

[ccovell]

Missile Fighter (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~japangaming/bn_inf.php?type=promo&id=1358). Unreleased PC-Engine SCD2 game.

Are you sure it was for SCD? Why on earth would a game so utterly basic-looking need the SCD attachment?

Anyway, I'm saddened whenever games for my favourite systems get cancelled, but something like a PC-Enginified Combat clone isn't much of a loss.

[Buyatari]

Beta 2 disk version of Metal Gear Solid 2

[GaijinPunch]

Are you sure it was for SCD?

Pretty sure, but not 120%. This is actually one of the more "wanted" unreleased titles amongst PC-Engine fans.

[JLukas]

New beta content discovered in the Chrono Trigger Trial Version Sample

edit: outdated links

[sayin999]

nice find, now if only someone would translate the japanese version to see what we missed in the us version, cause for some reason they dont seem to go into major detail about the missing dilouge for the japanes one.

[hl718]

Beta 2 disk version of Metal Gear Solid 2
Eh, I've got a copy of that sitting around here. Basically the retail game, with the only big difference that it's on two discs instead of one since Dual Layer burners weren't around back then.

-hl718

[Sally]

I thought this one was funny. It's from an early build of a Ninja Gaiden Hurricane Pack. I didn't realize that Gaiden was *that* kind of game:oh:





http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/ProgrammingAce/0eeff8c2.jpg

[jethro jazz]

Well one of them was the uk 64 magazine that some newstands here in the U.S. would sell, sadly there were other uk 64 magazines so i cant remember the name of it

im from the uk and remember the various mags pretty well, ill try and find pictures of the covers to see if you recongnise a logo?

best of them was n64 magazine:

http://www.retrogames.co.uk/stock/assets/images/Mags_-_N64_11.jpg

[sayin999]

wasnt it, im very sorry i threw those out, they had great beta pics of mission impossible, all i know is tht it was called teh unoffical 64 magaznie, first issue had a cover that looked similar to the mario 64 cover.

[hatergamer]

A Boy and His Blob on Nintendo DS

http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/gallery/a-boy-and-his-blob-ds/boyand2.jpg

http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/gallery/a-boy-and-his-blob-ds/boyand5.jpg

http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/gallery/a-boy-and-his-blob-ds/blob_ss_2.jpg

Pictures were found on www.unseen64.net (http://www.unseen64.net/). It's a great website if your really interested in beta or cancelled games.

[rod_wod]

Here are some early and unreleased Saturn game screens that I found yesterday while looking through some old magazines.

SONIC XTREME
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/5770/sonicxtreme15pl.jpg
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/4743/sonicxtreme21uc.jpg

LAST BRONX
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/6536/satbetalastbronx6ri.jpg

GOIKEN MUYOU
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/8062/satbetagoikenmuyou11xi.jpg
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/7915/satbetagoikenmuyou21gs.jpg

ROCKMAN ADVENTURE
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/1561/satbetarockmanadventure6bx.jpg

X2
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/4572/satbetax20fn.jpg

Yakumo

Great scans yamkumo love the goiken pics ive never seen them before.also was x2 re-made better by capcom japan for the psx or is it the same game as the euro version cos its a bit shit despite looking great.

[Yakumo]

Ir's the same as the Euro game. Capcom were just the Japanese publisher.

[rod_wod]

Oh i thought they gave it the capcom touch :flamethrower::-0

I know the gamepaly is not upto capcom standerd and someone told me they made changes.

[CHR_AeON]

Oh i thought they gave it the capcom touch :flamethrower::-0

I know the gamepaly is not upto capcom standerd and someone told me they made changes.

The japanese version has completely overhauled gameplay (i.e. enemies don't need as many hits as in the PAL version) and therefore the game lost its typical euro shmups touch.

[rod_wod]

Cool i will pick one up when i get the chance.
thanks for the info