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Dark Neo
02-08-2008, 12:33 PM
Hi.

I have the following in my apartment housing found:

Prototype?
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3725/dsc00009ki0.jpg
MFG.Date: 13.2.2002
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/416/dsc00011xs7.jpg
Made in Mexico?:icon_bigg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4863/dsc00013kj8.jpg
Debug Kit?
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8225/dsc00016wq6.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2520/dsc00018yw7.jpg


My questions are:

1.If this is a Debug Kit,Prototype or what?

2.Is this normal in Mexico be built?

3.Can i get more informations of this Debug Kit/Prototype or what ever?

E.-Tuner.


As always, excused because of my poor English.:crying::redface:

mooseblaster
02-08-2008, 12:44 PM
Is it in pieces already or did you take it apart? Does it have any guts, or is it just a case?

If it's just a case, it might well have been a display case rather than a debug box.

Pikkon
02-08-2008, 01:05 PM
Can you take a nice picture of the motherboard.Also does it boot up the xdk dash.

Parris
02-08-2008, 01:50 PM
Interesting that the kit has Compact Disc and Dolby Digital stamped on the facade. Sadly, although certain parts of kit might be indeed early proto the facade certainly is not. Anyone taking a careful look at early build MS Xbox units will note that they lack any kind of stamp on the front at all. Debug Kits lack them - have a look! (BTW, yes Made In Mexico is pretty much standard).

I also seriously doubt even cheap ass MS employees would merely write 'Debug Kit' on the front of one of their units, especially NOT with any kind of exclamation mark - they are hardly going to be excited by it.

I found similar 'prototype' markings on a unit I owned way, way back (still have it in the attic) only to discover from the likes of OE etc that many parts were pressed and then simply put into service in other early machines. I.e. the bits were kicking around so Bill, being Bill ensured there was no waste lol.

Show us the dashboard, that'll tell you a lot about the unit as it'll have the revision of XDK.

Until then, I think no, sadly it's just a piece of kit 'cobbled' together from parts kicking around.

Dark Neo
02-08-2008, 01:59 PM
Sorry, I did wrong words.

It is just one case,I just wanted to know what an Xbox previously it was.

Xbox logo is missing too.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5008/dsc000122cu3.jpg
110-127Volts in Germany?:oh::icon_bigg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1196/dsc000102xb8.jpg

I hate my bad Englisch.Sorry:DOH::redface:

E.-Tuner.

Well that I have a XDK5933 on my Xbox Retail Green.;-)

mooseblaster
02-08-2008, 02:30 PM
It looks to me like the case for a regular North American Xbox - it's unlikely to be a prototype due to the date of manufacture. (the Xbox was released November 2001 in the US, and so long past any prototype stages).

Also, I don't think it's a genuine Debug because they were commonly green. May be an independent developer's machine which has been hacked up to play their proto releases.

Or it could be some dumbass kid trying to impress people because their regular box can play backups and so wrote DEBUG on it.

Parris
02-08-2008, 02:36 PM
It looks to me like the case for a regular North American Xbox - it's unlikely to be a prototype due to the date of manufacture. (the Xbox was released November 2001 in the US, and so long past any prototype stages).

Also, I don't think it's a genuine Debug because they were commonly green. May be an independent developer's machine which has been hacked up to play their proto releases.

Or it could be some dumbass kid trying to impress people because their regular box can play backups and so wrote DEBUG on it.

Some Debug Kits for the Xbox are infact black believe it or not. However, everything else is agreed.

A 110vac unit found in Germany, with all those American Army / Air bases? No idea how that could have happened :rolleyes:

I honestly hope you paid no more than the going rate for it and that it wasn't just a case handed to you for a large sum of cash because it was 'a prototype'. These 'fakes' appear of eBay fairly regularly and the eBay thread is littered with comments posted by various members warning the unwary!

Believe it or not, the word prototype stamped inside the casing of early machines (which this isn't, but I suspect it's a unit cobbled together from various units) does occur. I found that out to my disappointment too.

Pikkon
02-08-2008, 02:54 PM
The black debug's were used alot at trade shows(E3)
Just like the 360 Demo Kit,looks exactly like a retail 360.

Dark Neo
02-08-2008, 03:05 PM
Okay, thank you for the ansewers.
I have to say that I really only the case have found.

Well me regardless, because I do not use it anyway.;-)

E.-Tuner.

Well that I have a XDK5933 on my Xbox Retail Green:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3319/dsc000132jg4.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2274/dsc000152bi0.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7248/dsc000162lk6.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3295/dsc000172ac4.jpg

mooseblaster
02-08-2008, 04:40 PM
Some Debug Kits for the Xbox are infact black believe it or not. However, everything else is agreed.

That's why I said 'commonly' not 'are always'. But I'm sorry if I misconstrued that.

A black beaten-up *potential* debug case with no guts in it, missing decals and writing scrawled on it is worth exactly the same amount as a beaten-up retail case with no guts in it, missing decals and writing scrawled on it.

Unfortunately.

Still, it's quite a nice keepsake - especially if you find some guts to go in it :P

Parris
02-08-2008, 07:34 PM
Now what you want to do is go to Borman's website 'Past to Present' and download the Turok debug for the Xbox. It's free! Not a full title, but it's interesting none-the-less! ;-)

As for the empty case - plonk it into a cupboard for a rainy day, you just never known when a spare mobo / hdd will come your way!

Dark Neo
02-08-2008, 10:08 PM
Now what you want to do is go to Borman's website 'Past to Present' and download the Turok debug for the Xbox. It's free! Not a full title, but it's interesting none-the-less! ;-)


I have downloaded it and played.

Very cool,there are more of them?

diddydonn
02-08-2008, 10:51 PM
I have downloaded it and played.

Very cool,there are more of them?

Yes, but at the moment their release is on hold due to my personal circumstance

PhreQuencYViii
02-09-2008, 07:49 AM
That made in Mexico thing...I think a lot of earlier Xboxes were made in Mexico, and later on, China.

In that very first pic, what is that?

Polak
02-09-2008, 04:31 PM
Some early Xbox 1 were also made in Hungary.

Barc0de
02-09-2008, 04:36 PM
hungary was much later, for PAL xboxes

Parris
02-09-2008, 05:44 PM
The very first image appears to be the HDD bay - could be wrong, but it's a piece of pressed plastic and doesn't look like the DVD bay.

Dark Neo
02-11-2008, 02:22 AM
The very first image appears to be the HDD bay - could be wrong, but it's a piece of pressed plastic and doesn't look like the DVD bay.
Wrong.

The Text "Prototype" is pressed in the Underground of the Xbox.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7707/dsc00007zy9.jpg



Originally Posted by Barc0de
hungary was much later, for PAL xboxes
Thats also wrong,i have here a Xbox 1.0:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/975/dsc00001qx8.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/682/dsc000022xj9.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4731/dsc00004be6.jpg
This was on 16.2.2002 manufactured in Hungary and is a PAL box.:thumbsup:

smf
02-12-2008, 12:26 PM
I also seriously doubt even cheap ass MS employees would merely write 'Debug Kit' on the front of one of their units, especially NOT with any kind of exclamation mark - they are hardly going to be excited by it.

The exclamation mark was probably to make a point so that nobody stole it. I have a few PS1 debug stations with things like 110 volt only! in marker pen.

Parris
02-12-2008, 01:09 PM
The exclamation mark was probably to make a point so that nobody stole it. I have a few PS1 debug stations with things like 110 volt only! in marker pen.

Ditto! I have exactly the same markings on several US / Japanese units to avoid any electrical confusion :-)